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Should beheading be the penalty for homosexuals?

Notice the incessant need with some to equate Christians when discussing the barbarism of Islam.

Because in this particular instance, Islam is not all that different from Christianity.

Will you put up any resistance when your burkha is imposed, ANTPogo?

And, once again, you embarrass yourself by showing you have no idea what you're talking about.

Are you ever going to address the questions I asked you in this thread, 154?
 
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There's no doubt at all that a large portion of Muslims today (easily the majority, if not the vast majority) have a view of homosexuals that is misguided at the very best, and vile and barbaric at the worst. Anyone who says otherwise is pretty much an idiot.

However, as these examples show, it's entirely possible for Muslims (just as it is for liberal, tolerant Christians) to either follow a live-and-let-live view of gays, or to actively embrace them spiritually. And either path should be encouraged, for both religions - simply dismissing it as impossible (for either religion) will only make the problem far, far worse.
 
Because in this particular instance, Islam is not all that different from Christianity.

I think there's a difference between wanting to behead them and not allowing them to be elligible for office. Both are absolutely wrong, but by orders of magnitude differently wrong.
 
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I think there's a difference between wanting to behead them and not allowing them to be elligible for office. Both are absolutely wrong, but by orders of magnitude differently wrong.

Yes, but the difference is not in what each religion says, but in what its followers currently interpret it to mean.

That is, in scriptural terms, both Christianity and Islam say surprisingly similar things about homosexuality. The difference in how the majority of Muslims, and the majority of Christians, feel about how those scriptural dictates should be implemented, however, is very different (for the most part...there are still far too many American evangelicals who would be happy as clams if stoning were implemented as a punishment for gays and lesbians). Since that difference is rooted in cultural and historical issues, and not scriptural and theological issues, though, there is an opportunity (if not a mandate) for a reconciliation and moderation to occur in Islam, just as it has in mainstream Christianity.

That is, the problem is not Islam (as people like the OP would have it), but with a particular modern and popular version of Islam. And while that may still be a particularly large obstacle to overcome, it's still a hell of a lot easier to overcome than the alternative.

It's not a forgone eventuality, but it's at least a possible one.
 
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I'll be happy when we finally get out of the 10th century.
 
yes, but doesn't god with his split personality (Trinity) already count as 3?
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Trinitarianism is only Christian dogma, not Islamic nor Judaic. And not all Christian denominations subscribe to it, though most non-trinitarian views have been rooted out after Nicaea.
 
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Trinitarianism is only Christian dogma, not Islamic nor Judaic. And not all Christian denominations subscribe to it, though most non-trinitarian views have been rooted out after Nicaea.

true :)
 
No, should be not.

Be homosexual is not a crime.

Have sexual desires for a person of the same sex do not mean implicit harm to the community.
 
No, should be not.

Be homosexual is not a crime.

Have sexual desires for a person of the same sex do not mean implicit harm to the community.
What, in regards to homosexuality, means "implicit harm to the community?"
 
No, should be not.

Be homosexual is not a crime.

Have sexual desires for a person of the same sex do not mean implicit harm to the community.

oh yeah? God wants us to populate this planet, how do you think homosexuals are going to fulfill that godly order? That not only harms the community it also harms god's plan and makes baby Jesus cry.
 
Notice the incessant need with some to equate Christians when discussing the barbarism of Islam.

What, you mean like the fundies which convinced Uganda to introduce the death penalty for homosexuality? Yeah, I have no idea why people wouldn't see that some Christians wanting to hang the homosexuals _totally_ is unlike some Muslims wanting to behead them ;)

Will you put up any resistance when your burkha is imposed, ANTPogo?

Ahh, a slippery slope argument? Or how does that relate to the issue of homosexuality, other than your being too retarded to use proper logic for both?
 
No, should be not.

Be homosexual is not a crime.

Have sexual desires for a person of the same sex do not mean implicit harm to the community.


Do I correctly understand your position- it is wrong to kill homosexuals but driving them to suicide is a "good" thing?

Or have you changed your mind on the latter?
 
Please note. The author of that article is a "moderate".

Whipping not beheading (or stoning as in Iran) is the "moderate" position.
 
Good thing that there are moderates among all three religions who don't subscribe to the views held by their fundamentalist brothers and sisters...

Yeah, rather than just killing them these "moderates" will just make sure homosexuals remain second-class (or even third or forth-class) by voting to deny them civil rights.

How progressive.

...and some who even find a way to practice their faith, whether Jew, Christian, or Muslim, while being gay themselves.

We have a term for those sort of people: "self-loathing." Other examples include:
  • African-American Conservatives.
  • Jewish Holocuast deniers.
  • Atheists who want to accommodate religion.
 
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Please note. The author of that article is a "moderate".

Whipping not beheading (or stoning as in Iran) is the "moderate" position.

What, are you afraid that if you actually try to learn something rather than wallow in your bigoted ignorance, you'll evaporate like Count Orlock in the sunlight?

Go click my links.
 
Ah, don't overload his smooth little brain. Actually understanding something more complex than "ISLAM IS TEH EVIL!!!!111eleventeen" is something he proved again and again he can't do.
 
Yeah, rather than just killing them these "moderates" will just make sure homosexuals remain second-class (or even third or forth-class) by voting to dent them civil rights.

How progressive.

No. Like with everything else, there's a spectrum of views. On one end are a group of radicals who want to kill all homosexuals. On the other end are a group of radicals who wholeheartedly embrace homosexuals. And in the middle is a giant group of people who don't want to execute homosexuals, but who don't want to accept them, either.

My point is that, contrary to the OP's assertions, this is as true of Islam as it is of Christianity and Judaism.

We have a term for those sort of people: "self-loathing." Other examples include:
  • African-American Conservatives.
  • Jewish Holocuast deniers.
  • Atheists who want to accommodate religion.

You think that any spiritualism and religion is completely incompatible with homosexuality?
 

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