Should beheading be the penalty for homosexuals?

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Seems there's some differences of opinion within the Muslim world. They are NOT all marching in lock step.

This is an article from two years ago, but still relevant I think.

Should beheading be the penalty for homosexuals?
Brunei Times

RECENTLY, Gambian President Yahya Jammeh threatened to behead homosexuals, and two persons were arrested and are being held for trial. What is the Syariah stance on this?

For sure, homosexuality and lesbianism are heinous crimes against humanity that deserve a deterrent punishment. Muslim scholars have various views regarding the punishment of this abhorrent crime. It is high time for juristic counsels in the Muslim World to tackle this issue to reach an agreed-upon law that does suit our complicated contemporary life and situations.

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Punishments in the Syariah are not for political disputes, but they are part of a judicial system, which is maintained by an impartial independent court.

Because the Gambian president is not a jurist, he does not know that his threat to behead homosexuals has a very weak basis in the Syariah.

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First, no legal punishment is stated in the Qur'an for homosexuality; all what is stated in this concern is the condemnation of committing it in the context of the story of Prophet Luth peace be upon him and the divine punishment his people received for committing such a hideous sin.

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All what can be said is that sodomy is a fahishah, the same way the Quran described zina, so it has the same legal punishment — the lashing of the perpetrator one hundred times in a public place as stated in surah An-Nur, or imprisoning and punishing him as stated in surah of An-Nisa'.

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Emphasis added.

And here's the kicker.

The Writer is director of the Islamic Center of South Plains, Lubbock, Texas, US
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yes, beheading seems a little extreme.

Maybe just a spanking?
 
Yes, the attitude towards homosexuality among Judeo-Christian-Islamic fundamentalists can be pretty vile. All the more so when one of these fundamentalists admits that the holy scriptures of his religion don't actually mandate any punishment for homosexuality.

Good thing that there are moderates among all three religions who don't subscribe to the views held by their fundamentalist brothers and sisters, and some who even find a way to practice their faith, whether Jew, Christian, or Muslim, while being gay themselves.
 
ANTPogo said:
Good thing that there are moderates among all three religions who don't subscribe to the views held by their fundamentalist brothers and sisters, and some who even find a way to practice their faith, whether Jew, Christian, or Muslim, while being gay themselves.
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What do the moderate Muslims say about it?
 
What should be the penalty for fundy psychos?
 
Pardalis said:
What do the moderate Muslims say about it?
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They are, sadly, still very much a minority, but they exist (a larger proportion hold a position which is very much like the official Catholic stance on homosexuality, which is not nearly as bad as the abhorrent "death penalty" advocates, but still not as moderate as it ought to be...for both groups).

Sufis are generally the most tolerant in this regard, as they are in most things (one Sufi "saint", Sarmad, actually had a religious revelation, converted to Islam, and became a wandering holy man because he fell in love with a young Indian man, his love apparently being so strong that it sparked the transformation. Today Sharmad's tomb near the entrance to the Jama Masjid in Delhi, the second biggest and most famous mosque in India, is a site for pilgrims of multiple faiths, since Sarmad considered himself something of an ecumenicalist). Some Sufi mosques have even welcomed gay Muslims.

However, while this tolerance is most prevalent among Sufi Muslims, it's not limited to them. Here is an interesting article about a Muslim theologian (of Glasgow University's School of Divinity) that gives a nice overview of the liberal/moderate Muslim idea of homosexuality and Islam. Or you can go here to see a list of of similar articles and links to Muslim LGBT-supporting organizations (scroll down to the "Religion" section).
 
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ANTPogo said:
However, while this tolerance is most prevalent among Sufi Muslims, it's not limited to them. Here is an interesting article about a Muslim theologian (of Glasgow University's School of Divinity) that gives a nice overview of the liberal/moderate Muslim idea of homosexuality and Islam. Or you can go here to see a list of of similar articles and links to Muslim LGBT-supporting organizations (scroll down to the "Religion" section).
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Lots of info in these links. Thanks. :)
 
http://www.dutchnews.nl/news/archives/2010/06/gay_man_on_christenunie_mp_lis.php:
Gay man on ChristenUnie MP list, because he's celibate

The first gay man to be included on the ChristenUnie's list of prospective MPs would not have been placed on the list if he was in a relationship, party leader André Rouvoet told a tv show on Wednesday evening.

Jonathan van der Geer is 41st on the party's MP list and has therefore no real chance of actually being elected to parliament.
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This party currently has 5 (of 150) seats in Dutch parliament. If they hadn't been part of the outgoing coalition government, I bet they wouldn't even have placed this man on the slate.

http://www.aimforhumanrights.org/themes/women-s-human-rights/women-s-rights-in-the-netherlands/political-participation-of-women-the-sgp-case/
Political Participation of women: the SGP case

To the surprise of many, the Netherlands still has a political party that excludes women. Women are allowed to join the SGP, the othodox protestant party, but cannot run for elected positions or fulfil executive roles within the party. [...] Consequently, various Dutch organisations, Aim for human rights among them, together brought two cases against the government and the SGP through the strategic litigation fund of the Clara Wichmann Institute.
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This party holds 2 of the 150 seats in Dutch parliament. Before the mentioned lawsuit, women could not even be a member of the party. Let's not even ask about their stance about LGBT.

Didn't Jesus say something about a mote and a beam?
 
Of course, some Muslim theologies differ.

Hanging is suitable for the less extreme.
 
ANTPogo said:
Yes, the attitude towards homosexuality among Judeo-Christian-Islamic fundamentalists can be pretty vile. All the more so when one of these fundamentalists admits that the holy scriptures of his religion don't actually mandate any punishment for homosexuality.

Good thing that there are moderates among all three religions who don't subscribe to the views held by their fundamentalist brothers and sisters, and some who even find a way to practice their faith, whether Jew, Christian, or Muslim, while being gay themselves.
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Notice the incessant need with some to equate Christians when discussing the barbarism of Islam.

Will you put up any resistance when your burkha is imposed, ANTPogo?
 
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Notice the incessant need with some to equate Christians when discussing the barbarism of Islam.

Will you put up any resistance when your burkha is imposed, ANTPogo?
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why are you only interested in one branch of the Abrahamic monotheist faiths that hates Gays.
 
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