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...Shall Not Be Infringed

Oh, please, we're now much more likely to be killed by Trump's army of goons, or by the actual army after he's ordered them to attack American cities because he's mad at their mayors. Or by all the diseases we'll get once vaccines are forbidden by the mad potato man. So give guns a break! They're practically harmless by comparison.
 
Regardless of the feelings about legally available guns, the fact remains that Trump has suggested to limit their access in the US to his current bogeyman, rather than in general.
Now our resident Trumpist calls this 'trolling the libs', but the past months have shown Trump does not troll. He acts, regardless of legality and the US police, justice system and lawmakers fold like wet paper to accommodate him.

There has been some speculation about how to know if someone is Trans, but all that will take is someone saying you are trans. Illegals are the logical next step, with again being the wrong colour or looking at an ICE goon wrong the deciding factor.

And of the 'the government shall NEVER control my guns!!!' group here, I've only seen one poster actually being aghast by this. The others are either silent or consider it fun trolling of the libs, showing they never cared about their precious second amendment, only that they get to play with guns unhindered.
 
Lukraak_Sisser said:
And of the 'the government shall NEVER control my guns!!!' group here, I've only seen one poster actually being aghast by this. The others are either silent or consider it fun trolling of the libs, showing they never cared about their precious second amendment, only that they get to play with guns unhindered.
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There isn't anyone here in favor of it. It's going nowhere. But seeing lefties embrace "Shall Not Be Infringed" warms my heart.
 
Thermal said:
Gee...sounds like one of those heartwarming tales of innocence...

Two guys break into a house to steal guns from a safe (sounds like they knew the owner and where he had guns and how to get into the safe). Only a kid is up and around in these wee hours... who had access to a loaded handgun? And knew how to use it well enough to kill two armed men in the dark? As opposed to say, getting out of the house or waking an adult>

Totally doesn't sound like this kid was the drug dealer himself. Totally.
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"Child" indeed :rolleyes:. Elsewhere in the article referred to as a "juvenile". I suspect you might be onto something here.
 
Trausti said:
There isn't anyone here in favor of it. It's going nowhere. But seeing lefties embrace "Shall Not Be Infringed" warms my heart.
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Je répète:

I doubt that "the left" will substantially change their views on the value of the second amendment because of this ignorant comment by Trump. Their point on this issue is equal application of your constitution for all Americans. A concept that both you and your president have substantial difficulty with
 
just glad to see him supporting the trans. world's getting a little more woke and i love it, thanks man.
 
Trump's trolling aside, it is good that we start a national conversation about gun rights for people with untreated mental illness.
 
Chanakya said:
Ah. I was going to ask why not lock the doors in that case, but won't now. A pipe wrench today, couple bikinis tomorrow, cool tradeoff, agreed 👍
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Full disclosure: we leave the doors unlocked out of habit and convenience, supplemented by having a dog that doesn't like strangers, as well as a Thermal that doesn't care much for them either. We have family and friends bouncing in and out so often that we just stopped bothering with locking, rather than issue everyone keys. We are not exactly the Rockefellers, and the place doesn't look like it holds any loot worth the risk of jail time, so I guess we are passed up for greener pastures by burglars.

Also, my meta theory is that if someone wants in, they are getting in. I could. And my front door is fairly new, 7 foot fiberglass job with glass and an expensive Schlage keyless deadbolt (virtually unused although my wife wanted it) and Baldwin knob. I really don't want someone destroying it by kicking the door in, so better to leave it unlocked. The damn thing would be expensive to replace.
 
arthwollipot said:
I asked basically the same thing back in 2018 and was immediately accused of having an ulterior motive.
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While the US military surely outguns the population, what would they realistically do with their superior firepower? Nuke LA? Drone strikes in Manhattan? If the government did turn on us, they would ultimately have to do do it with grunts on the streets, and yeah, a citizen with a rifle has a real chance just in sheer numbers.

Take a gander at what the Executive branch is doing with the military against the populace lately. Is it really so farfetched?
 
Steve said:
"Child" indeed :rolleyes:. Elsewhere in the article referred to as a "juvenile". I suspect you might be onto something here.
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Got curious, and started looking for other reporting. In each and every story, no adults/guardians/homeowners are mentioned in any context. The boy (described only as a 'resident' of the house) shot the burglars, killing one but the other alive, then escaped though... a window? The police arrived to find the two shot men, but no mention of any homeowners or adults.

Sounds a lot like junior was Home Alone with a loaded handgun (not locked in the safe like the other guns). The guns being allegedly stolen were not said to belong to anyone else (like a father, for instance). The two dead guys were said to be armed but didn't fire at the boy.

I can think of a lot of other scenarios going on here besides an attempted safe break in (which was a version of events the police probably only got from the kid anyway).
 
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Thermal said:
Also, my meta theory is that if someone wants in, they are getting in.
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You've just explained why a person wouldn't have any particular reason to target your house specifically. Locking the front door deters casual opportunistic burglars, not someone who is determined to get into your house in particular.
 
arthwollipot said:
You've just explained why a person wouldn't have any particular reason to target your house specifically. Locking the front door deters casual opportunistic burglars, not someone who is determined to get into your house in particular.
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Which, of course, is a bit more frightening if a criminal is intent on breaking in regardless of your locked door. They probably don't have your best interests in mind.

More hero kids.

Sheriff: 12-year-old killed armed man who threatened mother
 
Trausti said:
Which, of course, is a bit more frightening if a criminal is intent on breaking in regardless of your locked door. They probably don't have your best interests in mind.

More hero kids.

Sheriff: 12-year-old killed armed man who threatened mother
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The number of times armed people stop criminals varies significantly depending on the source and methodology, with some studies suggesting hundreds of thousands of crimes are prevented by armed individuals annually, while other sources, like the Bureau of Justice Statistics's National Crime Victimization Survey, find far fewer instances of defensive gun use, estimating around 70,000 defensive gun uses (DGUs) per year. In specific contexts, such as active shooter events, data from the Crime Prevention Research Center indicates that armed civilians have intervened in nearly 50% of these incidents.

 
arthwollipot said:
You've just explained why a person wouldn't have any particular reason to target your house specifically. Locking the front door deters casual opportunistic burglars, not someone who is determined to get into your house in particular.
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That's what honest people tell themselves.
 
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