September Stundie Nominations

It just that the event was so exclusive (to just those who were present) it was called a "secret meeting" at the time.

You see, way back then, English did not yet have such cromulent words as "exclusive" (or "private"), so they had to use "secret" to describe things that were actually exclusive.

As you can imagine, things were very ambiguous and confusing, until about 1913, after the Titanic disaster freed up several new words for addition to our language.
 
This guy is completely delusional.

This is what he said:

Trisket I've proven a number of times how they are lying simply by using their own words, in their documents to show just that. Like with the whole federal reserve thing we debated about earlier that says that they are not out to profit, but in the SAME document they show how they do. I did it with the whole taxes debate we had a while back and showed you how their own words contradicts itself.

The only way to prove anything to you is to show the government themselves SPECIFICALLY saying that they are lying.

The document in question?

This:
http://www.federalreserve.gov/generalinfo/faq/faqfrbanks.htm#6

Of course, this is one of my favorites. Try and work out this logic:

That's all I'm trying to say most of the time. The government isn't evil, the greedy people who work for them are.

So....is he arguing the sometimes it is completely evil?
 
Here's one from another poster in a different topic.

His name is DementedOompaLoompa. Guess that's more accurate than one would think:

I believe it was faked and I'm not really sure there were people on the planes. I linked to those videos, and in them they showed an LA news station going to LAX and waiting at the terminal where on of the flights was supposed to go, in hopes of interviewing grieving family members. The crew found no one there.

Also, 2 of the planes are still registered by the FDA, and the other 2 were de-registered in 2005.

http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.php?board=214&topic=45534688

Yeah. So the FDA was involved, too. I guess the war against gingivitis is real.
 
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He means the excavation of the WTC foundation, which was informally called "the bathtub" because of its shape. His claim that there were 50 to 100 tons of molten steel in it is still quite ridiculous, but not Stundie-worthy.

I know exactly what it means, I think you are missing the reply. I think I need to reformat it.

ETA: Does that look better? I can see why you thought I made the mistake, but that was his reply, not mine!
 
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I found this reply from scott75 extremely humorous:




Taken from here:

http://s1.zetaboards.com/LooseChangeForums/topic/663014/1/



I think that was a joke, you maybe missed the smiley at the end:

DoYouEverWonder, looks good. The only thing Klatoo said that doesn't make sense is this:

Quote:


The evidence of a large molten pool of steel in the bathtub amounting to between 50 to hundred tons of molten steel indicates premeditation and organization of the cutting activity.



50 to a 100 tons of steel doesn't fit in a bathtub :-p.


:p == :-p


Of course, you weren't the only one who seems to have missed that....


ETA: Of course, having read that linked response, there's a Stundie there, from DoYouEverWonder:

What I have found since then is a lot of evidence, that the steel was very, very hot and that the heat persisted for a long time. Hot steel will ignite any combustibles that land on it, so that moving the debris around, would be enough to restart sub-level fires. The real question should be how did the buried steel get so hot to begin with? The molten melt meme just gives the debunkers more ammo for their twisted logic.


Apparently pointing out that they were wrong for all that time is now "twisted logic".
 
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I think that was a joke, you maybe missed the smiley at the end:




:p == :-p


Of course, you weren't the only one who seems to have missed that....


ETA: Of course, having read that linked response, there's a Stundie there, from DoYouEverWonder:




Apparently pointing out that they were wrong for all that time is now "twisted logic".

Egg on my face!! So, do I qualify for a stundie? Can I nominate myself?
 
Excellent example of the parallels between present-day America and Nazi Germany- more sad than funny, however. Also an excellent look into the psychology of JREFers.

Skeptic: Where are the WMDs in Iraq?

Official Conspiracy Theorist: I'll tell you where they are- with the hundreds of thousands of dead people on the ground in Iraq- that's where the WMDs are.

Skeptic: And we're the ones that did it.

Official Conspiracy Theorist: We were the one's that did it? The greatest nation in the world- only fights for good and you can look me in the eye and tell me that [America caused this].

Source (@ 4:15)

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Man, DementedOompaLoompa just wants to give everyone a chance to vote for him, it seems.

Check this quote out:

You are hampered by your delusional dis-reality. Just take the time to watch the videos, everyone who has agreed that they present a compelling argument.

The basic premise behind them is that there was an ACKNOWLEDGED 17 second delay between when the "planes" hit the towers, and when it was aired on television. In this 17 seconds, editors used digital overlay technology to essentially paste in images of planes over the missile that was used, and because it was done so fast their is plenty of obvious errors.

For example, optical aberrations, hue distortions (the sky on 9/11 was 30 different colors), and simple bad animation. The "planes" they used are blurred IMAGES, if you were watching a real video of a plane then the plane would not appear static, it would change as light hit it different, and it would especially distort when it's hitting the building. The video shows timed animation how the plane never decellerated on impact. They even used the same sound files on multiple shots of the planes hitting, the same lady is heard screaming all over Manhattan apparently.

I imagine you'll not respond to a single one of these points, but for both of our sakes just watch the first 10 minutes of the first video, and try to pretend you don't start to notice things you didn't see before.

Which was followed by this gem:

They didn't plant airplane wreckage, their was none. The only wreckage I've ever seen is in photos, which are much easier to be faked.


Source:
http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.php?board=214&topic=45529954&page=2

Keep in mind, that second quote is about airplane wreckage found at the WTC after the two impacts. Apparently, there was no wreckage. It was all faked.
 
You're supposed to give the time that the quote appears in the video, BedouinBoy. Oh, and if you wanted to highlight the "psychology of JREFers" you might have had more success had you actually, you know, quoted someone who posts here rather than a random rightwing blowhard. Just a suggestion.

By the way, have you figured out that a detached pole will rotate around its center of gravity and not at its lowest point yet? If not, I suggest you try contacting your high school physics teacher during lunch hour.
 
Folks, this is it.

This is Triple-A, prime cut stuff we're talking about here.

From FadeTooBlack, we have this amazing gem:

If they had used planes, it would have left too much evidence. They thought Americans would be stupid enough to fall for it, and they were right. You can easily catch someone off guard with a missle, but a plane is way too visible, which is why I'm shocked that people could even mistake seeing a plane or why the camera would ONLY pick it up when it got 3 inches from the building. Strange.

That's right. Planes would have left too much evidence. So they used missiles. And then faked it on TV. Stunning.

http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.php?board=214&topic=45529954&page=2
 
From TC329:

CIT has been dedicated to providing independent verifiable evidence demonstrating the true flight path of the Pentagon attack jet which ultimately proves it could not have hit the building as reported. See this thread for details.

But is the government story flight path as shown in the official data, reports, and required by the physical damage even physically possible?


Pilots for 9/11 Truth released an article earlier this year demonstrating how the final leg of the official flight path is in fact mathematically impossible for a 757 or any transport aircraft for that matter.

Unfortunately the article was released with an error that was quickly noted by other members as well as detractors who came out with their own interpretations of this scenario and the problem presented.

As any honest scientist/professional would do, Pilots for 9/11 Truth quickly admitted the error and promised an update with corrected math.

Since the issue had become convoluted with so many people offering up alternative scenarios.....P4T determined it would be best to put out a video presentation not only with the corrected math, but also with complete animations with scale topography for accurate demonstrations along with completely addressing all of the alternative or "debunking" scenarios in detail and showing exactly WHY they are wrong.

They have done this and as it turns out, the entire premise of the initial article holds true and the "debunkers" have been shown to be disingenuous at best or blatantly deceiving at worst.

The 2006 NTSB data or alleged "black box" has the flight path directly over the VDOT tower as shown here:
[qimg]http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a327/lytetrip/Pentagon/Pentagon%20folder%202/VDOTAntennaAerial.jpg[/qimg]

This makes the final descent to light pole number 1 with the necessary pull up to be perfectly low and level to the ground as shown in the Pentagon security video and required by all physical damage observably fishy to the layman but physically impossible to the scientist.
[qimg]http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a327/lytetrip/Pentagon/Pentagon%20folder%202/VDOTAntennaDescentAngle2.jpg[/qimg]


The scenario is especially irreconcilable with the evidence when considering the values reported by the NTSB particularly for speed, altitude, and g forces.

This really holds the government to their word as far as what the plane allegedly did and the pseudo-skeptic/government apologists out there seem to think that this official information can simply be dismissed when coming up with excuses for their impossible story.

Of course that is the ultimate cop out. This is the required descent if the officially reported altitude is used:
[qimg]http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a327/lytetrip/Pentagon/cgi%20povs/FDR_Pent_Alt1_ab.jpg[/qimg]
[qimg]http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a327/lytetrip/Pentagon/cgi%20povs/pentanimxox1rt.gif[/qimg]

But it is STILL impossible even if we hypothetically lower the plane to the top of the highest obstacle on the official flight path!
[qimg]http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a327/lytetrip/Pentagon/cgi%20povs/VDOT_Pent_Alt_ab.jpg[/qimg]

There is no way a 757 would be able to withstand more than 5 or 6 G's. But the highest G rate recorded in the NTSB data for this stretch is only 1.75 G's for a mere 1/8th of a second!

This 13 minute excerpt from Pilots for 9/11 Truth's latest release, 9/11: ATTACK ON THE PENTAGON, is really enough in itself to prove a military deception in Arlington that day.

So to all the pseudo-skeptics who have repeated the mantra "got math?" since the initial article came out with the error.....the answer is:

Sure do! And it proves your official 9/11 fantasy false.


Watch 13 minute short here

I couldn't decide which was the stupidest part so I nominated the lot.
 
Haven't you seen the way those astronauts could jump while on the moon?

Actually, no. The highest I ever saw an astronaut jump on the moon was about 1 1/2 feet. Maybe I missed it.

The backpacks weighed 180 lbs, so that would double the weight of a 180 lb astronaut. In 1/6 g, he would still be 1/3 his usual weight. I would think they could jump 5-6 feet up with very little effort.
 
Actually, no. The highest I ever saw an astronaut jump on the moon was about 1 1/2 feet. Maybe I missed it.

The backpacks weighed 180 lbs, so that would double the weight of a 180 lb astronaut. In 1/6 g, he would still be 1/3 his usual weight. I would think they could jump 5-6 feet up with very little effort.



You're ignoring the effects of limitations on their movements from the suits. How high can a person jump normally when not using their knees very much? Most of their jumps are made with very little leg movement at all.







 
This was too good to pass up.

From DementedOompaLoompa:

No it's not, the pentagon happened like the WTC should have happened, except the final hole was tiny as hell for a Boeing 767. I'm saying the Pentagon and WTC had the same thing happen (plane into wall) yet at the separate locations 2 completely separate things happened. Nature doesn't work like that.

Wow. I'm convinced.

Source:
http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.php?board=214&topic=45529954&page=6
 
This was too good to pass up.

From DementedOompaLoompa:

No it's not, the pentagon happened like the WTC should have happened, except the final hole was tiny as hell for a Boeing 767. I'm saying the Pentagon and WTC had the same thing happen (plane into wall) yet at the separate locations 2 completely separate things happened. Nature doesn't work like that.

Wow. I'm convinced.

Source:
http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.php?board=214&topic=45529954&page=6


Well, that's because, as all* architects and structural engineers know, low-rise, reinforced concrete and masonry buildings (of the sort where the planners made enough of an effort to protect it to add things such as blast-resistant windows) behave exactly like (extremely) high-rise steel framed office buildings.


*(AE911Truth architect(s) might actually believe this)
 
I would like to nominate this by Lidane

The passengers sounded very eerily calm during their calls. Unnaturally calm.

So I think,

1) The passengers were forced to make the calls at gunpoint, and were told what to say during each call.

and/or

2) 'Samples' of passenger and crew members' voices were taken during the flight or after secretly landing at a designated secret location, again possibly at gunpoint. The perps themselves made the phone calls, speaking through a special device that alters their voice to match the 'sample' voice, allowing them to impersonate these specific passengers and crew members.

But the voice-morphing device has technological limitations, however, so that when you speak into to it you have to do it in a very monotone, almost robotic tone of voice, or else it doesn't work. The device is incapable of imitating or conveying the emotional complexities/dynamics of the human voice in a natural-sounding way, which would explain why the 'callers' ended up sounding so unusually, unnaturally calm.

http://s1.zetaboards.com/LooseChangeForums/topic/409037/2/

It is difficult to decide which option is the least stupid but decided option 2 was, simply because I cannot imagine how anybody is supposed to make a calm phone call whilst being held at gunpoint.
 

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