Senior Natanz Nuclear executive slain in Tehran

[Travis]

Santorum hopes the USA was behind the assassination.

 

[SezMe]

I guess "all life is sacred" just doesn't cut it for some values of life.

 

[Eddie Dane]

That's what they say publically. For all we know, it was the CIA. Although the Mossad does seem more likely.

Plenty of people want to halt the Iranian nuke program.
Every Sunni country, for starters.
There are even domestic groups that might be up for this.

Or combinations of the above:
Kurds with Saudi training and funding for instance.

Western intelligence agencies are more likely to stare at satellite pictures then to blend in on the streets of Tehran.

The is jury very much out on who is doing this.

 

[WildCat]

Plenty of people want to halt the Iranian nuke program.
Every Sunni country, for starters.
There are even domestic groups that might be up for this.

Or combinations of the above:
Kurds with Saudi training and funding for instance.

Western intelligence agencies are more likely to stare at satellite pictures then to blend in on the streets of Tehran.

The is jury very much out on who is doing this.

True, and for all we know he borrowed money from the mob and didn't pay it back.

 

[Darth Rotor]

Santorum hopes the USA was behind the assassination.

Sourced, or just a gratuitous Santorum joke?

 

[MaGZ]

Here's the NY Times story on this:

Adversaries of Iran Said to Be Stepping Up Covert Actions



There's going to be reprisals. Iran recently sentenced an American man to death. This means that negotiations for his release are going to be more difficult if not impossible. And they may find more people to arrest, on trumped up charges or otherwise. There may also be terrorist attacks against US, British or Israeli civilians in foreign countries.

Does Iran have the right to retaliate against this terrorism?

 

[MaGZ]

Plenty of people want to halt the Iranian nuke program.
Every Sunni country, for starters.
There are even domestic groups that might be up for this.

Or combinations of the above:
Kurds with Saudi training and funding for instance.

Western intelligence agencies are more likely to stare at satellite pictures then to blend in on the streets of Tehran.

The is jury very much out on who is doing this.

Spoken as a true Mossad operative.

 

[DC]

It was a targeted assassination, not terrorism, not that I condone it.

you are right, i overreacted a bit.

 

[MaGZ]

Sourced, or just a gratuitous Santorum joke?

Gingrich could have also said this. Gingrich is on record of willing to unleash the CIA to achieve regime change in Iran and Syria in addition to extensive bombing of both countries.

Gingrich and Santorum twin warmongers of the Republican Party.

 

[JoeTheJuggler]

Are you saying that the Iranian folks attempting to overthrow their anti-gay, anti women, anti democratic government are terrorists?

Even if the people who planned and carried out these acts of terrorism were Israelis?

 

[Puppycow]

Sourced, or just a gratuitous Santorum joke?

Recent Meet the Press Transcript

MR. GREGORY: The reality is, there is no good option to disarm Iran.

FMR. SEN. SANTORUM: Yes, there is.

MR. GREGORY: The Bush administration knew that, this administration knows that. Tell me what you would do differently, then.

FMR. SEN. SANTORUM: I put forth a five-point plan that said fund the pro-democracy movement, use covert activities to disrupt...

MR. GREGORY: Which is already being done, Senator. You know that. There's covert activity to, to set back their program by the Israelis, by the United States.

FMR. SEN. SANTORUM: Well, we know by the Israelis. We, we don't have any evidence--if you look at what's being done, most of the evidence actually trails back to the Israelis and the methodologies that they use. There's no evidence the United States is at all complicit in working at that. That's what--I would be very direct that we would, in fact, and openly, talk about this. Why? Because I want to make sure that Iran knows that when I say that Iran is not getting a nuclear weapon, that we will actually effectuate policies that make that happen. This president has not done that. He has opposed tough sanctions on Iran, on their oil program. Why? Because he's concerned about this--the economy and his re-election instead of the long-term national security interests of this country. I would say to every foreign scientist that's going into Iran to help them there's--with their program, you'll be treated as an enemy combatant like an al-Qaeda member. And then finally, I would be working openly with the state of Israel and I would be saying to the Iranians, you either open up those facilities, you begin to dismantle them and, and make them available to inspectors, or we will degrade those facilities through airstrikes and make it very public that we are doing that. The president has done none of those.

MR. GREGORY: So you would lay out a red line and if they passed it, airstrikes by President Santorum.

FMR. SEN. SANTORUM: Iran will not get a nuclear weapon under my watch.

MR. GREGORY: Well, two previous presidents have said that. You would order airstrikes if it became clear that they were going to...

FMR. SEN. SANTORUM: Yes. That's, that's the plan. I mean, you can't go out and say--this is, this is the problem with this administration, you can't go out and say this is what I'm for and then do nothing. You become a paper tiger and people don't respect our country and our allies can't trust us. That's the problem with this administration.

Santorum would "talk openly" about "covert activities." Go figure.

 

[SezMe]

Santorum would "talk openly" about "covert activities." Go figure.

Sure, it's possible. Obama talked about killing OBL and that was certainly a covert operation. Even ahead of time, it would be possible for a president to "programs" - without being more specific - have been instituted to protect the USA.

Look, I'm not defending Santorum. He's an idiot and would make a bad president. But it is possible to do what he suggested.

 

[Darth Rotor]

Rick is thinking with his Dick (Cheney) and that's about that.

Puppycow, thanks for the link.

 

[Sword_Of_Truth]

So you approve of murder then.

Are you aware that both the United States and the UK have strongly condemned this act of murder?

1. The US and UK also strongly stated that both Iran and Saddams Iraq have or had illegal WMD programs.

2. I would love to hear the Obama administration explain why a guy on a motorcycle with a pipe bomb is murder but a guy launching missiles from a UAV over Yemen from the basement of the CIA building in Langley isn't.

3. A state of war exists between Israel and Iran. If I were a ruler of a country and some other country were paying for terrorists to launch heavy artillery rockets into my country, I would assume a state of war between us exists sometime well before 2378 rockets had been launched in just one year. Once a state of war exists, you're allowed to target individual personnel critical to the enemies war effort (and the US government agrees with me, see Yamamoto, Isoruku, "Operation Vengeance").

4. The US and the UK also attacked a critical rail hub essential to the movement of enemy personnel and war materiel in Feburary of 1945. Unfortunately, the rail hub had a city wrapped around it and some 25,000 German civilians were sent to Valhalla. Israel (assuming they were behind this) managed to significantly disrupt Irans nuclear weapons program while killing 24,999 less people.

5. I really don't want to live in a world where Pat Robertson, Oral Roberts, and Harold Camping have seats on the Supreme Court and are allowed to appoint Fred Phelps to be President. That such a country actually exists is a terrible thing. That their nuclear scientists and ballistic missile development facilities have a habit of spontaneously exploding is also a terrible thing, but I sleep slightly better at night because of it.

 

[Pardalis]

5. I really don't want to live in a world where Pat Robertson, Oral Roberts, and Harold Camping have seats on the Supreme Court and are allowed to appoint Fred Phelps to be President.

That's a pretty good idea to talk in a language they can understand. For some people, just saying 'Ayatollahs can't have a nuke' isn't enough, they think Ayatollahs are some kind of herbivore.

 

[Sword_Of_Truth]

That's a pretty good idea to talk in a language they can understand. For some people, just saying 'Ayatollahs can't have a nuke' isn't enough, they think Ayatollahs are some kind of herbivore.

I'm frankly been flabbergasted at the rush to defend Iran that goes on around here. Iran literally is the horror state that they think America would become under Rick Perry.

 

[Puppycow]

2. I would love to hear the Obama administration explain why a guy on a motorcycle with a pipe bomb is murder but a guy launching missiles from a UAV over Yemen from the basement of the CIA building in Langley isn't.

That's easy. The targets in the case of the UAV are enemy combatants. They are actively waging war on us. The scientist is a civilian.

3. A state of war exists between Israel and Iran.

Formally? Got a link?

 

[trustbutverify]

I'm frankly been flabbergasted at the rush to defend Iran that goes on around here. Iran literally is the horror state that they think America would become under Rick Perry.

Ahmadinejad plays the UI's like a cheap violin.

 

[Sword_Of_Truth]

That's easy. The targets in the case of the UAV are enemy combatants. They are actively waging war on us. The scientist is a civilian.

Robert Oppenheimer and Kenneth Bainbridge were civilians too.

"I am become death, the destroyer of worlds."
- Dr. Robert Oppenheimer, quoting hindu scripture following the first ever nuclear weapons test.

"Now we're all sons of bitches."
- Dr. Kenneth Bainbridge

Formally? Got a link?

Channeling Parky, are we?

 

[bit_pattern]

How is blowing up civilian NOT terrorism?