"SEND HER BACK!" Will they defend this?

jimbob said:
The UK is indeed divided and in a mess, however, I haven't seen anything like the Notting Hill race riots, homophobia is generally frowned upon by most members of society - even the **** police officially take part in Pride parades. I haven't seen a 3-day week, or currency export restrictions.


The US hasn't had mass lynchings or official segregation, much as Bannon would like it.

Yes things are coming to a head, but thirty-five years ago, there would have been far less condemnation of Trump's statements. Racist jokes (Jim Davidson's, "Chalky") are no longer broadcast on British primetime TV.



People are less tolerant of a lot of bad behaviour now, so society seems more divided.
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There is just more lip service now. Look at how the Lib Dems signed off on the Go Home Vans and the Hostile Environment. And again, the USSR's multiculturalism did not stop it from coming apart at the seams. Brazil's and Venezuela's multiculturalism did not stop Bolsonaro and political collapse respectively.

ponderingturtle said:
It seems clear, all states need to be ethnically pure.
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And the alternate strategy of "FLOOD THE COUNTRY WITH IMMIGRANTS AND LET THE BIGOTS DROWN IN DEMOGRAPHIC DESTINY!" will work well.
 
If there's no such thing as race then I guess racism can't exist!

The idea of race being a social construct is wishful thinking or flat out lying by those with agendas, including any sociologists who claim it.

And it's called multiculturalism, not multiracialism. I do not think multiculturalism is a good idea, in general. Depends on the cultures I suppose. Race, not such a problem.

No, I do not defend Trump's rhetoric.

Saw that video of Tlaib today screaming at Trump supporters while being dragged away. Good stuff!
 
NWO Sentryman said:
There is just more lip service now. Look at how the Lib Dems signed off on the Go Home Vans and the Hostile Environment. And again, the USSR's multiculturalism did not stop it from coming apart at the seams. Brazil's and Venezuela's multiculturalism did not stop Bolsonaro and political collapse respectively.

And the alternate strategy of "FLOOD THE COUNTRY WITH IMMIGRANTS AND LET THE BIGOTS DROWN IN DEMOGRAPHIC DESTINY!" will work well.
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Okay so if I'm building a humidor should I mitre cut or bridle cut the joints for better air tightness? Assume I'll be using Spanish Cedar for the wood.
 
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Anyway Trump just officially finally got around to calling "The Squad" the real racists, so I'm assuming that's the party line we'll start hearing from his supporters and his "I'm totally not a Trump supporter, honestly for realizes I just agree with and defend everything he says in every contexts" supporters.
 
mgidm86 said:
If there's no such thing as race then I guess racism can't exist!

The idea of race being a social construct is wishful thinking or flat out lying by those with agendas, including any sociologists who claim it.

And it's called multiculturalism, not multiracialism. I do not think multiculturalism is a good idea, in general. Depends on the cultures I suppose. Race, not such a problem.

No, I do not defend Trump's rhetoric.

Saw that video of Tlaib today screaming at Trump supporters while being dragged away. Good stuff!
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There is no such thing as bigfoot, but bigfoot hunters exist.
 
JoeMorgue said:
Anyway Trump just officially finally got around to calling "The Squad" the real racists, so I'm assuming that's the party line we'll start hearing from his supporters and his "I'm totally not a Trump supporter, honestly for realizes I just agree with and defend everything he says in every contexts" supporters.
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As far as I am concerned trump is just a catalyst for Americas decline. The rot set in long before him but now it's surfacing.
 
Red Baron Farms said:
No, literally the opposite. How you managed to twist that out of it is astonishing to me.
"without biological meaning"="not real"
"social construct"="It’s all in the racists mind"
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Nonsense. "It’s all in the racists mind" = "delusion" and that's not quite what "social construct" means, even when based on unsound principles.

You want to define "racist" in such a way that you can call affirmative action racism. No thanks, I'm not that morally confused. I prefer the conventional definition for a certain social malignancy: ethnic chauvinism and xenophobia. A racist is someone who assumes that he can judge a person by his ethnicity, and the "biological meaninglessness" of race is irrelevant to how that causes him to treat that person.
 
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This is the "A Mentality Cannot Grasp/Describe Something Outside It's Own Mentality" thing Woo Slinger love to play against science a lot, just reworded.
 
NWO Sentryman said:
So, what makes Diversity a good unto itself?
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Here's one I can think of: With a deep reservoir of people who speak languages other than English, who look lots of different ways, the U.S. is better positioned from a global espionage point of view.

A Chinese-American who speaks fluent, unaccented Chinese can blend in with a bunch of other Chinese speakers. Meanwhile China would have more difficulty placing an agent in our midst who posed as a loyal Chinese-American, just because he or she will not have been as exposed to many native English speakers. So not only would the Chinese person look different, he or she would probably sound different unless they were an unusually gifted mimic.

Americans should be learning more languages IMO.

Arguably having people of different cultures also exposes you to an espionage risk, which during WWII was illustrated by the government's fear of Japanese-Americans. But when you have fluent speakers of other languages who are also loyal to America, that's a formidable combination.
 
Minoosh said:
Here's one I can think of: With a deep reservoir of people who speak languages other than English, who look lots of different ways, the U.S. is better positioned from a global espionage point of view.

A Chinese-American who speaks fluent, unaccented Chinese can blend in with a bunch of other Chinese speakers. Meanwhile China would have more difficulty placing an agent in our midst who posed as a loyal Chinese-American, just because he or she will not have been as exposed to many native English speakers. So not only would the Chinese person look different, he or she would probably sound different unless they were an unusually gifted mimic.

Americans should be learning more languages IMO.

Arguably having people of different cultures also exposes you to an espionage risk, which during WWII was illustrated by the government's fear of Japanese-Americans. But when you have fluent speakers of other languages who are also loyal to America, that's a formidable combination.
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Also this:

https://www.nytimes.com/2003/03/09/...k-is-30-years-old-and-still-going-strong.html
 
From CNN link:

Black privilege may be new, but some of the rhetoric defending it is at least two centuries old. As far back as the late 19th century, whites were saying that blacks weren't so much victims of racism as they were victims of special treatment.
The 19th century U.S. Supreme Court echoed that thinking in one of its most infamous decisions. Congress had passed a sweeping Civil Rights Act in 1875 that banned discrimination against former slaves in public places. But the Supreme Court declared that act unconstitutional in 1883, a decision that sanctioned the rise of Jim Crow segregation and mob violence against blacks that would last a century.
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Arrrgh. No date in this article is more than 150 years ago. The writer thinks that's "at least two centuries"? Little things like that can spoil an article for me.

I'm guessing that the reporter thinks 2019 and 1875 are at least two centuries apart because one starts with 18 and the other starts with 20.
 
Cavemonster said:
Don't confuse "social construct" for "doesn't exist".
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“Of course it is happening inside your head, Harry, but why on earth should that mean that it is not real?”

Social constructs are in the society's heads. As long as the society acts on those constructs, they have reality.
 
NWO Sentryman said:
My point is that when people talk of multicultural societies being better off than monocultural ones, the only advantage they give is "Muh dinnerplate!", while comparing the Soviet Union and Japan shows a lot of evidence to the contrary

- Less Corruption
- Greater Social Cohesion
- Lower Inequality

Were things that Japan had over the Soviet Union despite lacking the purported strengths of diversity.

When things turned south in Chernobyl, the USSR began to implode along ethnic lines (particularly in the Baltic and Caucasus) while Fukushima did not aggravate such tensions. Interestingly enough, despite the Soviet Union's Diversity and celebration of such, the "Different points of views and ideas" did not prevent the Chernobyl disaster.
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New drinking game:

Take a **** every time NWO Sentryman says “my point is...”, “USSR”, “multicultural paradise”, “muh dinnerplate”, “yummy food” or some dark prediction fantasy of it all turning to **** and everyone dying and NWO Sentryman standing on a ledge cackling.
 
Red Baron Farms said:
"I probably identify more as Democrat"-Trump 2004
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His self-identification is/was entirely based on the path most likely to lead to glory. When he identified as a Dem, it was meaningless. When he identifies as GOP, it's meaningless. Trump was and is a Trumpist. The belief system that is most similar is fascism.
 
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