Sean Manchester - Vampire Hunter

For delphi ote

Originally Posted by delphi_ote
Did you bother to do any reading about us before you started posting on our forum?
Thank you for answering this question with a resounding unspoken "no."

Sorry. Seemed to have overlooked this. Yes. You are right, the answer is 'no'

David Farrant
 
CLD said:
Possibly why people doubt the Bishop's authenticity:

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CLD, that certainly brightened up my morning tea! I'm off to find a cosy in those colors!
 
I guess the bish had ImageShack take this down:

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DavidFarrant said:
Sorry. Seemed to have overlooked this. Yes. You are right, the answer is 'no'
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The whole "skeptic" thing is about only accepting claims for which there is evidence and doubting those for which there is not. It's kind of why we're all here.

Next time you drop into a community to rant, maybe you want figure out who your audience is first.
 
F0r Delphi Ote

The whole "skeptic" thing is about only accepting claims for which there is evidence and doubting those for which there is not. It's kind of why we're all here.

Next time you drop into a community to rant, maybe you want figure out who your audience is first.

Well . . . yes. But that is not quite right.

I did not really 'drop in', I was moreorless 'put here' - by a member here who opened a thread for me on the paranormal. I have only been answering questions as these have been put to me. I think there might be a marginal difference here!

David Farrant
 
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A Cup That Runneth Over

It's good to see that the accusations made of me being Manchester have now spilled onto MondoSkepto, which a couple (or more) people from this thread, help upkeep.

And by good, I mean bad.

It's a bit frustrating to deal with, especially with repeated denials and pointing out my background in the Highgate/Manchester/Farrant thing. Here is my role in the affair, as stated on my message board. It should also be mentioned, that not long after writing that piece, my membership was revoked from Manchester-affiliated forums, for starting up a "rival forum" and for providing "links to sites" which allegedly contain "gross libel and malicious fabrication against Bishop Seán Manchester". Maybe CLD (the guy who forwarded the correspondance over to the hacks ;) at MondoSkepto) can put his "journalist"'s hat on and ask the the propetiers of the forums to confirm this.

MondoSkepto is obviously humourous in intention, but it gets a tad annoying to say the least, when this connection is perpetuated outside of these forums and given as fact.

And to DavidFarrant:

I did not really 'drop in', I was moreorless 'put here' - by a member here who opened a thread for me on the paranormal. I have only been answering questions as these have been put to me. I think there might be a marginal difference here!

David Farrant
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Pull the other one. Your contributions began here before the starting of the "David Farrant - Psychic investigator" thread. The associates of your society (greenwych and Catherine Fearnley and who knows who else) preceded you before that. You've shown the same kind of elusiveness in both.

You also haven't exactly been "answering questions" as put to you. You've been selectively choosing which ones you want to answer.
 
For what it's worth Overseer, I no longer think you're His Bishness. Your writing style is far too articulate and wry - his is invariably emotionless and O-Level English level. So unless he's had a sense of humour upgrade and some writing classes, he's not you :)

You must realise that we get strings of new posters who arrive just after a controversial figure has been suspended or banned, and your timing and obvious history with him raised suspicions.

And CLD - that is classic, isn't it? Like some 6th Form nerd thinking he's locked in a never-ending battle with his evil nemesis.
 
DavidFarrant said:
I did not really 'drop in', I was moreorless 'put here' - by a member here who opened a thread for me on the paranormal. I have only been answering questions as these have been put to me. I think there might be a marginal difference here![/COLOR]
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Whatever your excuse, you still look like a rude fool posting in a community forum you know absolutely nothing about.
 
To Big Les

For what it's worth Overseer, I no longer think you're His Bishness. Your writing style is far too articulate and wry - his is invariably emotionless and O-Level English level. So unless he's had a sense of humour upgrade and some writing classes, he's not you :)
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Cheers for that, Big Les. There's only so many times a bloke can say, "I AM NOT THE BISHOP!", with caps and all! That's why I got pissed off about the same crap being circulated elsewhere (see my previous message). On a lighter note, I guess my classes in Professional Writing and Editing have finally paid off: batting off accusations of being someone else on a skeptical forum! :D

Now, if I could only learn to ask "genuine" questions...

You must realise that we get strings of new posters who arrive just after a controversial figure has been suspended or banned, and your timing and obvious history with him raised suspicions.
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Yeah, I can understand that. I've noticed the lack of disclosure from certain parties on this forum. But, for the record, my first post on the JREF forums occurred sometime after a thread had ceased activity. You can read it here. As seen from the thread itself, I wasn't aware, at the time, of any bannings that had taken place.

And CLD - that is classic, isn't it? Like some 6th Form nerd thinking he's locked in a never-ending battle with his evil nemesis.
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The resemblance is pretty obvious, but I've seen it denied by the other camp. But, to be fair, "portraits" have been painted by both sides for close-to 40 years!
 
For Delphi Ote

Originally Posted by DavidFarrant
I did not really 'drop in', I was moreorless 'put here' - by a member here who opened a thread for me on the paranormal. I have only been answering questions as these have been put to me. I think there might be a marginal difference here!

Whatever your excuse, you still look like a rude fool posting in a community forum you know absolutely nothing about.

When you (and others) make comments like this (just above) please try and get your facts right.

This thread was first started by The Vampire and literally reams of false accusations were being posted by myself and my part at the centre of the so-called Highgate 'vampire' case. Nearly all of these false accusations were being 'cut and pasted' by just one person, who has since been banned. Catherine started to 'defend' me, but that was entirely on her own initiative.

I did not myself join until the thread had reached page 8 (I believe) and then it was because I considered that only I could really answer the accusations being made against myself. That is all fact, Delphi Ote. I thought you liked facts, so all you have to do is read back.

One of your members then started the "David Farrant - Psychic Investigator" thread because he said peple might be interested to hear what I had do answer about other psychic matters.

THAT is what happened. I did not come on here to 'attack' or fight with anyone. That is all I have been doing. Answering questions. Your questions!

For now,
David Farrant
 
I think that is a little strong, delph_ote. David is clearly singing from a different hymn sheet, and has struggled (as we all have) to bridge the gap, and has got frustrated at times. But he's been perfectly civil and hasn't just cut and run, which would be the easiest thing to do.
 
Big Les said:
I think that is a little strong, delph_ote. David is clearly singing from a different hymn sheet, and has struggled (as we all have) to bridge the gap, and has got frustrated at times. But he's been perfectly civil and hasn't just cut and run, which would be the easiest thing to do.
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His question about evidence is equivalent to being a member of an NRA forum for 3-4 months and asking, "Guns guns guns. What's the deal with guns, people? All you guys ever talk about is guns!"

This little melodrama has played itself out. It's time for DavidFarrant to either become a productive member of the community or move on. This latest rant about the history of the whole drama doesn't really help your case that he's been "perfectly civil." Sure, he's not directly insulting anyone, but he's still grinding that axe.
 
For Cuddles

Originally Posted by DavidFarrant
literally reams of false accusations were being posted by myself
Is it just me, or did David just admit to lying?

What do you really think Cuddles? That should have read ABOUT myself. In fact, I originally put "being posted about myself by M---------" But I decided not to stoop so low.

Having said that, now I just have done!!

For the moment,

David
 
delphi_ote said:
His question about evidence is equivalent to being a member of an NRA forum for 3-4 months and asking, "Guns guns guns. What's the deal with guns, people? All you guys ever talk about is guns!"

This little melodrama has played itself out. It's time for DavidFarrant to either become a productive member of the community or move on. This latest rant about the history of the whole drama doesn't really help your case that he's been "perfectly civil." Sure, he's not directly insulting anyone, but he's still grinding that axe.
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For the record, I do not share David's opinions regarding psychic entities, rocks and stones retaining memories and images, ghosts causing cold spots, or any of the paranormal theories and assertions he's put forth. However, I do think he plays a productive role in this forum by serving as a rare opportunity for skeptics to carry on extended discussion with a "believer" and enhance their understanding of the roots and causes of such beliefs. Naturally, there is a little friction, but provided it doesn't get abusive or disruptive, I believe his presence to have some value.

(One exception might be the "Manchester vs. Farrant" feud, the extended discussion of which is boring and serves no purpose here, except maybe as humor :-))
 
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CLD said:
However, I do think he plays a productive role in this forum by serving as a rare opportunity for skeptics to carry on extended discussion with a "believer" and enhance their understanding of the roots and causes of such beliefs.
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We are learning plenty about his beliefs, sure. The problem is, he's been so oblivious and self-centered, he hasn't yet learned after being a member for three months that the most basic common belief on this board is that all claims should be supported by evidence.

His soliloquies about his beliefs are worthless, because there's no dialogue happening here. DavidFarrant has made it abundantly clear that he does not care who we are, what we represent, or why we disagree with him. We're just an audience.
 
For Delphi Ote

I do not want, or need, andiences, Delphi Ote - at least not in the sense you are applying this to yourselves. I said before, I have only been answering your questions. What would you have wnated me to do . . . keep silent?

The only sense in that I 'want audiences', is that I am an author. The purpose of being an author is to write books for people to read. If that were not the intention of authors in general, then we would have no books. And you would have no scientific books to read!!

For now,

David Farrant
 
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