Sean Manchester - Vampire Hunter

Minarvia said:
Welcome, Mr. Farrant. I realize that it took guts for you to join a Skeptic's Forum and I give you credit for that. I'm sure I'm not alone in hoping that you and Mr. Manchester do not start to bash each other here. But as the Highgate Vampire topic is discussed, I think clarification of certain points will be welcome.


Your membership agreement prohibits the disclosure of personal information about other members; whether or not Myth Buster is Mr. Manchester (and I have no way of knowing that), I ask that you refrain from such activities going forward.
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Wow, since I never even claimed Manchester was here for sure or stated that he is using a name here...:confused: Oh, well!
 
greenwych said:
I f I might say something without getting moved, as I cant see what the problem is, Myth Buster will be Manchester. On all the message boards in the past he has always had another name( with one exception) and writes in exactly the same way. It would be ludicrous to believe that Sean Manchester is sitting in his bungalow retreat completely oblivious to what is being said about him. Only he has the knowledge and detailed inside information to answer the posts. He is always hiding behind someone elses identity, nearly always fictitious, which shows what an apology for a man he is. A real man and a real bishop would not skulk behind this "imaginary friend" persona.

Trusting this post does not violate any rules!

greenwych
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Heh, mine must have! :o While I will likely never figure out just why, I will continue to read this thread with interest. The entire topic is interesting as long as it stays civil.
 
To be official or not.

Myth Buster said:
First, it is not true that the ICA "used to be the Official Old Catholic Church of the UK." They have never been the Official anything. They have only been in existence for a couple of years or so. Second, it is untrue to say that "the other Old Catholic Churches do not recognsie Manchester." Third, I put your question about the Ad Clerum to the British Old Catholic Church (without mentioning this forum) and their answer to me follows:

Firstly does it matter whether they are official or not official. I am sure that what their original website called them until another member of the Church hijacked the name. Secondly it is not untrue to say the other Old Catholic Churches do not recognise Manchester as we've got all the email evidence that we need. And Third why did you put the question about the Ad Clerum to your allegedly OWN Church. Surely that is ridiculous for so-called evidence.

[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, Serif]The ICA has withdrawn its names from the Ad Clerum issued last month. Hence the names "Kemp" and "Scruton" on the Ad Clerum should be ignored. The Independent Old Catholic Church, however, adheres to the Ad Clerum.[/FONT]

Yes and it is true that there is only one other Church the ICOCC which is allegedly supporting you. You name me any others what are.

[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, Serif]The Independent Old Catholic Church has ended its concordat and indeed all contact with the ICA. The British Old Catholic Church held no concordat with the ICA. Ecclesia Apostolica Jesu Christi, likewise, has had no concordat with the ICA due to the latter's uncanonical and unscriptural stance on sacerdotal and sacramental matters. [/FONT]

Ecclesia Apostolica Jesu Christi did have a concordat with the ICA. Hence the reason for the Ad Clerum which Manchester quite promptly promoted on all his message boards until the ICA removed their names.

[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, Serif]Traditional Old Catholics do not recognise Canon 11 of the ICA's "canon law" which states that women can become priests and bishops. It questions Canon 12 which dictates that "all clergy will conform and obey the laws of the country where they reside." This could result in clergy obeying laws which are in direct conflict with God's Law. Such conflicts have arisen with Communist regimes and are still occurring in some Muslim countries. The ICA also accepts as clergy those in sexual relationships outside the Christian sacrament of marriage (which can only be one man with one woman). Homosexual relationships, therefore, present no bar to ICA clergy and laity. This acceptance on the part of the ICA of non-married persons in the Christian meaning of that word, who are nevertheless sexually active, is against the teachings of Holy Scripture and the One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church. [/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, Serif]Bishop Manchester is greatly relieved to discover the removal of the Most Rev'd Phillip R Kemp and the Rev'd Simon Scruton from the Ad Clerum.[/FONT]
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Yes Likewise, I'm sure that Rev Kemp and Rev Simon are quite thankful not to be in association with Ecclesia Apostolica Jesu Christi, considering the amount of bad publicity you are now giving them. I don't think that they'll be none too pleased with this posting.

Catherine.
 
Obviously the interviewer was no way sharp enough to deal with Manchesters manouverings and did not pin him down on the facts you have quoted, "Vampire". I too have seen this text and thought the same, in fact, it is infuriating what he got away with--no facts at all--where,when,how,photos,witnesses etc.

My problem with the traditional vampire--undead,coffin dwelling, infectious vampire--ie bites a person and turns them into one---

is that soon there would be more ampires than people.

Also, in this day and age the medical profession, the coroners and the police would be involved with investigating unexpected deaths--especially a person with two b******y great fang marks on their neck.

As with "Spider" woman in London, people have families who would want an inquest and would not be happy to find their nearest and dearest dug up and staked.

Out of sheer practicality I find it hard to imagine how there could be a vampire population roaming around. If I might tell a funny story, years ago when I was at work, Manchester was on the Radio and someone came into my office all agog. Apparently he ahd been going on about the Kirklees Vampire and saying the cillage of Clifton , near Robin Hoods Grave (where the vampire was) was in a state of seige beause of the vampires,
and he mentioned my name, bless him ! Talk about a red face!!!! It was a joke for weeks.

greenwych
 
Earlier on I asked MythBuster whether or not him or Manchester would accept the James Randi Challenge. I've also asked David the same thing. Now I've not received an answer from either Manchester or MythBuster which quite plainly says to me that if Manchester or MythBuster can't provide any evidence whatsover then he's lying. So why don't you take me up on the James Randi Challenge MythBuster/Manchester and David. Imagine how many hand-held stakes a $1 million dollars would provide.

Catherine
 
greenwych said:
Obviously the interviewer was no way sharp enough to deal with Manchesters manouverings and did not pin him down on the facts you have quoted, "Vampire". I too have seen this text and thought the same, in fact, it is infuriating what he got away with--no facts at all--where,when,how,photos,witnesses etc.
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In my opinion in many of these types of interview the interviewer does not want to pin the subject down to facts. Flights of fancy so often make a better story than reality, and any embellishment just ads to the entertainment value.
 
James Randi Challenge

For Catherine,

Why should I be the one to take up the James Randi challenge?!?

I am not the one saying that vampires exist!

That is really HIS problem!

For now,

David
 
DavidFarrant said:
For Catherine,

Why should I be the one to take up the James Randi challenge?!?

I am not the one saying that vampires exist!

That is really HIS problem!

For now,

David
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Is that all types of vampires or just certain ones. I am just asking to see if you have found evidence of other types than the blood sucking variety.
 
Oh I just had an idea, listen to this... Lets make a homeopathic remedy with holy water and garlic and administer it trough the water supply of all major cities in the world... should clear the hole vamp thing right up, right!? You know the more dilute it is the better it works so that would be the greatest anti-vamp solution ever... :jaw-dropp
 
Is it just me or do these people have a surprising degree of eloquence for their OBVIOUS lack of logic or sanity.

I mean.. clearly these people.. the Good Bishop (lol) and his equally nutty detractors .. have beliefs that are INANE.. yet they mange to put fairly lucid statements together (especially about each other).

I find I cannot even dislike these complete woos as they have managed to entertain me !
 
Arkan_Wolfshade said:
For clarification, are you saying (a) "He didn't" dress up in a Nazi uniform
or (b) "He didn't" dress up in a Nazi uniform for a supposed factual series of stories on the "Nazi-Occult connection" Thanks in advance.
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Both.

As previously stated:

Originally Posted by Skeptic Guy
Why would Sean dress up in a Nazi uniform for a supposed factual series of stories on the "Nazi-Occult connection"?

He didn't.
 
You really know alot about 'Sean' if that's his real name ;), what if he's an undercover vamp?:scared: they're tricky you know!
 
greenwych said:
I f I might say something without getting moved, as I cant see what the problem is, Myth Buster will be Manchester. On all the message boards in the past he has always had another name( with one exception) and writes in exactly the same way. It would be ludicrous to believe that Sean Manchester is sitting in his bungalow retreat completely oblivious to what is being said about him. Only he has the knowledge and detailed inside information to answer the posts. He is always hiding behind someone elses identity, nearly always fictitious, which shows what an apology for a man he is. A real man and a real bishop would not skulk behind this "imaginary friend" persona.
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I am not Manchester.

It is a standard tactic of Greenwych and her two friends to always accuse anyone posting in Manchester's defence to be Manchester himself. It would seem that, unless you are incapable of spelling and basic grammar, you will have this accusation levelled at you for being audacious enough not to join in their hate-mongering.

Sean Manchester cannot sit "in his bungalow" because he does not have a bungalow and has never had a bungalow. Greenwych has these compulsive themes which she repeats all over the net. They are frequently difficult to comprehend and must be some sort of joke which only she understands and finds remotely funny.

I have the "knowledge and detailed information" because I have researched these matters and the reason I have researched properly is because that is part of what I do. Others have come up with the same answers as me.

Sean Manchester, from what I have discovered about him, "skulks" behind nobody.
 
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Myth:
"I have the "knowledge and understanding" because I have researched these matters and the reason I have researched properly is because that is part of what I do. Others have come up with the same answers as me."

Hi... psst over here... which other people? any links perhaps?
 
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