Sean Manchester - Vampire Hunter

CatherineFearnley said:
brodski said:
It would be very interesting to see (or hear of) the evidence which you have collected, and the to discuss how that evidence could be interpreted, and what other possible explanations for the data there may be.

I have not got any evidence to be honest as I do not at the moment go around ghost-hunting as that would be in great conflict with my religious beliefs seeing as I attend a RC Church every week and am getting converted. But that doesn't mean to say that David hasn't got any in his files but I cannot say one way or another if he will write or talk or even post pictures that is upto him.

Which gets into how you define "bishop", knowing a little about how religions are defined and regulated in the UK I suspect that legally Mr Manchester has a right to use the title of bishop. However what that actually means is open to personal interpretation, and whether someone should use the title in relation to Mr Manchester or not is a matter of personal choice (and personal freedom).
I would ask though that we focus on matters directly related to the paranormal rather than the ecclesiastical standing (or otherwise) of Mr Manchester.

When I posted the reply, I was merely answering someone elses post as I felt fit seeing as the post was quoting and replying to my own comments.

You Barbara and David seem to be in a position to offer a different point of view from most of the posters here, and frankly I think we have more interesting and relevant things to talk about than obscure churches. And given Darat's warnings about personal matters and past history, I wouldn’t want to miss the opportunity of asking you, and in particular David, some questions.

I agree with you we all have different view points which is what makes this thread interesting. However the thread is titled Sean Manchester - Vampire Hunter and consequently we are discussing Sean Manchester. Please feel free to ask as many questions as you like and we will try to provide an answer if not we'll say so. We won't pretend to know everything. But at least we'll be honest and open and wont hide behind aliases.

Best wishes

Catherine
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Sod the evidence. What about these orgies?
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DavidFarrant - Given the previous posts in this thread and the many allegations made against you I will allow that your comment to remain as it is only fair you are able to respond.

To all: Again let me stress that discussing the claims (about topics appropriate for this Forum) made by anyone is fine, whether that be DavidFarrant, Sean Manchester or anyone else however what I will not allow is this Forum to be used as part of the publicity for any party for a 30 odd year old personal feud.

As a further point: When Sean Manchester (or someone claiming to be him) contacted me via email and requested some posts be removed here I did explain how the views of posters are their own and the JREF is not responsible for the views that are expressed, I also invited him to join to respond to any allegations against him. However he appears not to wish to do that, and just to try and clear this matter up, if Myth Buster is not as he/she claims Sean Manchester then there is definitely some long standing personal or professional link between Myth Buster and Sean Manchester and they have to be well known to one another
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bighairygoat said:
Same question.

What was the original newspaper group the pictures were published in?
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It was in Sunday People, Oct 9, 1977, I think. Not to get into this slapping match, but I'm finding a heck of a lot of publicity stunts from the past.
 
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Sean Manchester

Myth Buster said:
All?

See http://www.independentoldcatholic.org/adclerum+sm.html

The Dutch Old Catholic Church ceased to be Catholic and became Protestant when it signed the Bonn Agreement and entered into full Communion with the Anglican Church.

All other Old Catholic Churches are entirely autocephalous.
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Big Deal one Church amongst so many. We have had some very interesting emails from that particular Church. Why is it then that the Independant Catholic Alliance (who used to be the Official Old Catholic Church of the UK) have renounced all their support to the Ad Clerum can you answer that. Also can you answer why all the other Old Catholic Churches do not recognise Manchester.

With regards to Manchester's Church standing or lack of this is my last post on the subject matter it is up to individual members of the board to do their own research. I do not wish to be banned. But I am more then willing to discuss Manchester's wild claims with regards to 'vampires' and their ilk, in particular the giant spider incidence.

Catherine
 
If Sean Manchester has made the claim that he holds a specific title then it is quite acceptable on this Forum to seek evidence for such a claim or to attempt to prove that he does not hold such a title. This is true for anyone.
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The Vampire said:
It was in Sunday People, Oct 9, 1977, I think.
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Ok, but Myth Buster states the Sunday People stole the pics from the original publisher ... and seems reluctant to tell us who the original publisher was. Was it The Sun, Daily Mirror, who?
 
bighairygoat said:
Ok, but Myth Buster states the Sunday People stole the pics from the original publisher ... and seems reluctant to tell us who the original publisher was. Was it The Sun, Daily Mirror, who?
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Indeed, and also I've yet to see why posing in a Nazi uniform was necessary at all given the problems that could arise out of people using the pictures to discredit Mr. Manchester later, and given that it was a piece intended for print.
 
bighairygoat said:
Ok, but Myth Buster states the Sunday People stole the pics from the original publisher ... and seems reluctant to tell us who the original publisher was. Was it The Sun, Daily Mirror, who?
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I have a feeling, before all this is over, I'm going to find some conspiracy between Manchester, Bat Boy, Big Foot living an Arkansas trailer park and the Weekly News of the World.
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The Vampire said:
I have a feeling, before all this is over, I'm going to find some conspiracy between Manchester, Bat Boy, Big Foot living an Arkansas trailer park and the Weekly News of the World.
:covereyes
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Weekly World News

[So I Married An Axe Murderer]

Charlie: Mom I find it amusing that you refer to the Weekly World News as "the paper." "The paper" contains facts.

Mom: This paper contains facts! Pregnant man gives birth! That's a fact! And this paper has the 8th highest circulation in the world!

[/So I Married An Axe Murderer]





ETA: This headline off the webpage makes me laugh out loud:

Mermaids Protest Insufficient Sea Pollution
By George Gowan January 16, 2007

MANHATTAN, N.Y.--The mermaid Azura surprised the Clean Seas Institute by announcing her people's extreme displeasure with the anti-pollution group's activities.

"Pollution provides the basis of many Mer-technologies," she said. "You know, we still haven't discovered fire down there."
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CatherineFearnley said:
I have not got any evidence to be honest as I do not at the moment go around ghost-hunting as that would be in great conflict with my religious beliefs seeing as I attend a RC Church every week and am getting converted. But that doesn't mean to say that David hasn't got any in his files but I cannot say one way or another if he will write or talk or even post pictures that is up to him.
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Ok, my misunderstanding. I intend to open another thread where, hopefully, David can shed some light on his beliefs and evidence, without it getting bogged down with allegations of past misconduct or a continuation of this 30 year old feud.

When I posted the reply, I was merely answering someone elses post as I felt fit seeing as the post was quoting and replying to my own comments.
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I know, it was mroe of a general plea.

I agree with you we all have different view points which is what makes this thread interesting. However the thread is titled Sean Manchester - Vampire Hunter and consequently we are discussing Sean Manchester. Please feel free to ask as many questions as you like and we will try to provide an answer if not we'll say so. We won't pretend to know everything. But at least we'll be honest and open and wont hide behind aliases.

Best wishes

Catherine
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I'll start a new thread, and look forward to some interesting discussions
 
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brodski said:
Ok, my misunderstanding. I intend to open another thread where, hopefully, David can shed some light on his beliefs and evidence, without it getting bogged down with allegations of past misconduct or a continuation of this 30 year old feud.

There was no misunderstanding brodski it's just that I haven't mentioned my religious beliefs as I didn't see the need to. I can't really say that David will or he won't shed some light on his beliefs that is really upto him but I'm pretty sure that he wouldn't mind.

I know, it was mroe of a general plea.

Sorry and I will adhere to that plea.


I'll start a new thread, and look forward to some interesting discussions
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Me too. You go for it if possible. Send us a link to thread when it's created. I'm sure that Barbara would like to join in also.

If Manchester is claiming to stake vampires why does he not take up the James Randi Challenge?
 
brodski said:
Ok, my misunderstanding. I intend to open another thread where, hopefully, David can shed some light on his beliefs and evidence, without it getting bogged down with allegations of past misconduct or a continuation of this 30 year old feud.

I know, it was mroe of a general plea.


I'll start a new thread, and look forward to some interesting discussions
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Good idea. I'm getting confused.

I'd like clarification of this statement by Myth Buster:


Lestat Lioncourt: what sort of evidence do you seem to find to support your theories?

Sean Manchester: I don't deal in theory - at least I haven't done so since 30-odd years ago when I first confronted a real vampire. This isn't theory - this is fact.
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Ok, what are the facts?
 
CatherineFearnley said:
If Manchester is claiming to stake vampires why does he not take up the James Randi Challenge?
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That's the million dollar question, love. If Manchester has indeed staked a vampire, then I for one would love to see his evidence for the following statement (source quoted from The Vampire's post):

Sean Manchester: I don't deal in theory - at least I haven't done so since 30-odd years ago when I first confronted a real vampire. This isn't theory - this is fact.
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One simple question for Mythbuster:

Darat has previously repeatedly asked you to clarify any connections to Sean Manchester which you evasively have not directly clarified.

Lothian asked you directly if you are Sean Manchester but made the mistake of giving you an out by saying 'you are free to tell me I'm wrong', which you did.

My question- Are you, the person posting on this board by the handle 'Myth Buster' in actuality Sean Manchester? Yes or no. If you answer no yet it is proven you are in fact he you will have lost any credit you would hope to have in making your case.
 
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