Sean Manchester - Vampire Hunter

I tried auctioning myself off on Ebay, but never made any money...

And how dare you call TAPs boring...I may have to call Jason and let him know!

In any event, somebody believes there are vampires. Though to date it seems there are a lot of people denying it. I had thought Mr. Farrant was a believer, but it seems not. Sean?

We are never going to clear up a feud reaching back thirty years, so I don't want to focus on that. However...

Are there vampires? And if so, what proof do you have. I would really like to see it.
 
Are there vampires?

Here's fascinating primer that should answer all your questions:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/communicate/archive/so_vampire/page1.shtml

greg wall: has a vampire ever tried to attack you?

Sean Manchester: Yes. On more than one occasion I have been at great risk at the presence of vampires. The first time was in the early 1970s, and a number of times since. In 1990 I was confronted by a predatory wraith or vampire in West Yorkshire while investigating the Kirklees vampire.

I was confronted with a vampire on West Bleecker while investigating CBGB's in the early 1980's, but that's another story...
 
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No Vampire

ARE VAMPIRES REAL?
I take the latter points about (the validity of) ‘vampires’ and I can only agree that I find all the traditional and type-cast conceptions about them, boring in the extreme. But there is definitely an interest here (you only have to look at all the dressed-up kids, Hammer horror movies and Buffy) and maybe it is this interest that should be called into question rather than the literal existence of vampires themselves. Maybe we would then learn what it is that drives relatively small groups of people to believe in such things; even to emulate them by wearing cloaks and plastic fangs, or similarly, carrying around crucifix’s, wooden stakes and mallets and advising an astounded public as to how these should be destroyed. It seems incredible, but this is happening today – not in the dark ignorance and superstition of the Middle Ages, but TODAY in the 21st century! There are some people today that swear to the existence of such ‘demonic beings’; even others who boast to having literally ‘staked them’! Do I personally believe any of this? The answer is a big NO.
But then how come you (I) are saying all this when you have been on the television in the past ‘armed’ with a cross and a stake and portrayed as if you (myself again) were ‘hunting vampires?
This is a fair point. May I answer as it has become the subject of much confusion and (deliberate) misinterpretation in the past (which still goes on today).
Very, very briefly, in 1970 others and myself were holding a ‘psychic séance’ within Highgate Cemetery in an attempt to make psychic communication’ with the reputed phenomenon that had been widely reported there. The police arrested myself and attributed a statement to me that I did not, in fact, make.
This unsigned statement was to the effect that ‘I’ . . . intended to search out the ‘King vampire’, opening coffins if necessary, and when I had found it, I would have driven a wooden stake through its heart and then run away. This is what the police maintained what I had said during my first Court appearance and not surprisingly, this was picked up by the world-wide Press and I became branded as a ‘vampire’ (which I am not, I am a psychic investigator).
At my final Court appearance, I rigorously denied having said anything like this to the police, and fought the case accordingly. The magistrate concluded that he was satisified I had not intended ‘to break open coffins’ and I was subsequently acquitted – as in ‘not guilty’.
Well, BBC television were doing a programme on the Highgate Cemetery sightings, and they asked me to appear on this to be interviewed, and they also wanted me to be filmed ‘stalking through the gravestones’ with a cross and a stake. This programme was filmed and televised on October 15th 1970.
Much has been made of the fact over the years (mainly by just one person), that if I did not believe vampires existed, what ws I doing been filmed supposedly ‘hunting’ them?
My answer to this has always been, that I was acting in a reconstruction that the television wanted following my well published Court case. My attitude at the time was that in participating in such a reconstruction of seen events, it would also be ‘one in the eye’ for the police who had tried to ‘set me up’ in the first place.
I have also often explained that appearing in this programme did not necessarily mean that I accepted the literal existence of vampires; anymore than you could argue that the late Peter Cushing believed that Christopher Lee was a real live vampire! No. It is of course a nonsense.
The bottom line is, I do NOT accept the existence of ‘blood-sucking vampires’ Some other people might (even claimed to have ‘staked’ them. But I can only say, that such people are really the ones with a problem (most likely a serious mental one).
Sorry if this has been a little long, but I did not want to leave anything relevant out.
For the moment,
David (Farrant)
NB Thank you for the welcome message Darat. I have not figured out where the ‘reply’ message button is yet. Perhaps you could help there!
 
Rumour, albeit off topic, scotched

There's a rumour that a photo exists of Manchester wearing Nazi regalia. Post that and maybe things'll perk up a bit.


I did seek clarification from the moderators four or five hours ago as to whether I could respond to this rumour, but have not yet received a response, so I will keep it short. Sean Manchester was a professional photographer and writer who was commissioned in 1977 to do a series on the Nazi-Occult connection by a newspaper group. When the first of the three part feature was published, the Sunday People stole some of the images and used them in a spoiler. Compensation was paid to Sean Manchester for copyright infringement as he is the sole copyright owner of these images. The original newspaper group were given only one reproduction right to use the pictures which expired after publication. They, too, complained about the spoiler and much of the misrepresentation within it.
 
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[qimg]http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/images/misc/modred.gif[/qimg]This ends now.

You are welcome to discuss and post all you want regarding the various claims and actions of deluded people like Sean Manchester and David Farrant that are appropriate for this Forum. In other words ludicrous claims that vampires exist, that people have killed vampires and so on. However your personal stuff - take it elsewhere or face being banned.
Posted By:Darat

Congratulations on your appointment as a moderator on these forums. When did Darat appoint you?
 
Whose Arguing?

(inciting) Can you prove Manchester isn't a bishop of some sort? Can you prove that vampires don't exist? (playing both ends against the middle) How do we know David Farrant isn't lying? How dare you invoke images of the Queen Mother's nighties! Manchester never claimed the girl was a spider. And how about that day in 1967 when...oh, forget it...I just can't get interested in this silly feud. :confused: :confused:

I can't prove anything of the paranormal exists or doesn't but then again can you? Where have I said I could? Yes we can prove that Manchester isn't a bishop as already stated. We don't know whether anyone is lying but from what experience I've had with Manchester I know who to believe. Considering none of us were there at the time we only have to read the different version of accounts and sort the wheat from the chafe. And David is my boyfriend so why should I not believe him? If I didn't then there would not be much point in any of this. We've written to all the Old Catholic Churches that are available and they have all renounced him and said that he isn't. Manchester did indeed claim that the girl was a giant spider and not only that but it was the size of a giant cat. If you read the second edition of The Highgate Vampire it quite plainly says. If you have not read the story then how can you make a comment. Since when have I invoked images of the Queen Mother's (well that should be the late Princess Diana)nighties? Again that was not us but on one of Manchester's own ridiculous articles that he was promoting at the time of the late Princesses death. I'm surprised that he didn't change her into a immortal being in the process. Probably thought about it but thought better of it.
 
You are welcome to discuss and post all you want regarding the various claims and actions of deluded people like Sean Manchester and David Farrant that are appropriate for this Forum. In other words ludicrous claims that vampires exist, that people have killed vampires and so on. However your personal stuff - take it elsewhere or face being banned.
Posted By:Darat

If you wish to quote someone, use the quote button, this post gives the impression you are trying to claim authority you don't have.

That aside, the beliefs and mental state of either party are of great interest to this discussion, so knowing that someone dresses up as a Nazi would be relevant. Of course, the poster clearly stated this was just a rumour, and without any evidence we can't assume it is any more than this. In addition, it is almost certain that this post was meant as a joking reply to the previous one, and considering the topic of this thread it would be unwise to take any posts as completely serious, at least those from regular members rather than those involved in the fued. And you can hardly deny that a picture of any of the parties in Nazi uniform would definately perk this thread up.

Of coures, your incredible overreaction and lack of denial lend a certain credibility to this claim where none of us would have taken it seriously before.
 
Yes I realize that. That wasn't the point I was trying to make.
I wasn't sure that quoting a "mod" post would render it exactly as the original, so gave Myth Buster the benefit of the doubt - i.e. it was accidental. A quick test using "preview post" shows the "mod" post exactly as the original.

If you wish to quote someone, use the quote button, this post gives the impression you are trying to claim authority you don't have.
As Myth Buster seems to have no problem using the quote function correctly for non-mod posts I now suspect MB may have deliberately edited the quote to give this impression.
 
No authority being claimed

If you wish to quote someone, use the quote button, this post gives the impression you are trying to claim authority you don't have.


Which, of course, was not my intention. I have seen others posting two quotes alongside each other where an apparent anomaly is present and without any text of their own to accompany it. That is all I was doing since I had not received clarification and have still not received any. As it bothers you so much, I have amended it with a brief explanation due to someone's copyright at issue.
 
I can't prove anything of the paranormal exists or doesn't but then again can you?
Well it has been demonstrated on a number of occasions that certain alleged paranormal phenomena don't exist (usually where the paranormal effect is claimed to be direct, reliable and repeatable). Other more nebulous claims are more difficult to pin down. However from a philosophical point of view, it is very, very difficult to prove an ill defined negative (For example the old Oxford Don's philosophical exercise involving an invisible, incorporeal, fire breathing dragon which lived in his fireplace). However you are, I believe, a "psychic investigator", which presumably means that you have amassed some evidence one way or another.
It would be very interesting to see (or hear of) the evidence which you have collected, and the to discuss how that evidence could be interpreted, and what other possible explanations for the data there may be.


Yes we can prove that Manchester isn't a bishop as already stated.
Which gets into how you define "bishop", knowing a little about how religions are defined and regulated in the UK I suspect that legally Mr Manchester has a right to use the title of bishop. However what that actually means is open to personal interpretation, and whether someone should use the title in relation to Mr Manchester or not is a matter of personal choice (and personal freedom).
I would ask though that we focus on matters directly related to the paranormal rather than the ecclesiastical standing (or otherwise) of Mr Manchester.
You Barbara and David seem to be in a position to offer a different point of view from most of the posters here, and frankly I think we have more interesting and relevant things to talk about than obscure churches. And given Darat's warnings about personal matters and past history, I wouldn’t want to miss the opportunity of asking you, and in particular David, some questions.


Manchester did indeed claim that the girl was a giant spider and not only that but it was the size of a giant cat. If you read the second edition of The Highgate Vampire it quite plainly says. If you have not read the story then how can you make a comment. Since when have I invoked images of the Queen Mother's (well that should be the late Princess Diana)nighties? Again that was not us but on one of Manchester's own ridiculous articles that he was promoting at the time of the late Princesses death. I'm surprised that he didn't change her into a immortal being in the process. Probably thought about it but thought better of it.

The problem for a lot of (probably all) skeptis with stories like this, is that both claims of vampires, and claims of deceased Royals appearing in images are implausible, and with no corroborating evidence presented for either how are we to determine one as more plausible than the other?
We know that "common sense" is so often wring, especially when confronted with things outside of our personal, and evolutionary, experience. So without corroborating evince we will place both stories on a footing equal with any other uncorroborated extraordinary claim.
 
Autocephalous Old Catholic Churches

We've written to all the Old Catholic Churches that are available and they have all renounced him and said that he isn't.

All?

See http://www.independentoldcatholic.org/adclerum+sm.html

The Dutch Old Catholic Church ceased to be Catholic and became Protestant when it signed the Bonn Agreement and entered into full Communion with the Anglican Church.

All other Old Catholic Churches are entirely autocephalous.
 
Same question here with two added:

1) For a series on Nazi occult beliefs, why did Mr. Manchester need to dress like a nazi at all? ETA: I might see a camp factor to dressing up as one in a TV series, but Mr. Manchester was publishing to print. Why have photos taken of himself in a Nazi uniform at all, since that would obviously give people the opportunity to misrepresent him later?

2) Why woudn't you just rebut the original statement of the rumor in this thread with that specific information straight out?
 
For All,

Just for the record, I do not think it would be a good idea to discuss Mr. Manchester (or "Myth Buster as he is now calling himself) personally. I for one am quite willing to discuss the claims he has made about vampires, or to answer any questions about the malicious propaganda he has spread (and still spreading) over the world-wide Net about my alleged involvement in 'vampirism' and the occult in general. (That I am a 'Satanist', a 'black magician', that I 'sacrifice cats' and conduct 'nude orgies'. Well, I can say in a word that none of this is true so I might as well say 'no' here to get it out of the way).

I think the claims made about 'vampires' and also to having 'staked' them are of far more relevance than answering the untrue allegtions this alleged 'man of the cloth' this same individual has promulgated on the Net (and elsewhere). Then people can be left to make up their minds as to whether they believe these claims or not.

For now,

David
 
For All,

Just for the record, I do not think it would be a good idea to discuss Mr. Manchester (or "Myth Buster as he is now calling himself) personally. I for one am quite willing to discuss the claims he has made about vampires, or to answer any questions about the malicious propaganda he has spread (and still spreading) over the world-wide Net about my alleged involvement in 'vampirism' and the occult in general. (That I am a 'Satanist', a 'black magician', that I 'sacrifice cats' and conduct 'nude orgies'. Well, I can say in a word that none of this is true so I might as well say 'no' here to get it out of the way).

I think the claims made about 'vampires' and also to having 'staked' them are of far more relevance than answering the untrue allegtions this alleged 'man of the cloth' this same individual has promulgated on the Net (and elsewhere). Then people can be left to make up their minds as to whether they believe these claims or not.

For now,

David


David whether or not you participate in nude orgies in real life, letting someone say that you do participate in them is not really a detriment, and I for one would welcome you as our new alien overlord if you were to invite some of us to said orgies.
 
It would be very interesting to see (or hear of) the evidence which you have collected, and the to discuss how that evidence could be interpreted, and what other possible explanations for the data there may be.

I have not got any evidence to be honest as I do not at the moment go around ghost-hunting as that would be in great conflict with my religious beliefs seeing as I attend a RC Church every week and am getting converted. But that doesn't mean to say that David hasn't got any in his files but I cannot say one way or another if he will write or talk or even post pictures that is upto him.

Which gets into how you define "bishop", knowing a little about how religions are defined and regulated in the UK I suspect that legally Mr Manchester has a right to use the title of bishop. However what that actually means is open to personal interpretation, and whether someone should use the title in relation to Mr Manchester or not is a matter of personal choice (and personal freedom).
I would ask though that we focus on matters directly related to the paranormal rather than the ecclesiastical standing (or otherwise) of Mr Manchester.

When I posted the reply, I was merely answering someone elses post as I felt fit seeing as the post was quoting and replying to my own comments.

You Barbara and David seem to be in a position to offer a different point of view from most of the posters here, and frankly I think we have more interesting and relevant things to talk about than obscure churches. And given Darat's warnings about personal matters and past history, I wouldn’t want to miss the opportunity of asking you, and in particular David, some questions.

I agree with you we all have different view points which is what makes this thread interesting. However the thread is titled Sean Manchester - Vampire Hunter and consequently we are discussing Sean Manchester. Please feel free to ask as many questions as you like and we will try to provide an answer if not we'll say so. We won't pretend to know everything. But at least we'll be honest and open and wont hide behind aliases.

Best wishes

Catherine
 

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