Split Thread Scorpion's Spiritualism

[Scorpion]

Another interesting link on spirit release therapy.

https://psi-encyclopedia.spr.ac.uk/articles/spirit-release-therapy

 

[P.J. Denyer]

Has it been explained to us yet how astral entities are affected by electricity?

You haven't seen the studies from the Caer Paravel teaching hospital in Narnia which was validated by the Hogwarts School of Medicine? If you want to keep up with your made up medicine you have to keep on top of your made up literature.


Or, no, just assertions that they are.

 

[Scorpion]

Just a small piece of off topic info. I am not totally paranoid. I just received two pages of information in answer to my request for info about me held on the police national computer. Apart from general things It goes into unexpected details about me, including the colour of my eyes, my shoe size and that I am right handed. What is conspicuous by its absence is any reference to my psychological status. They have obviously with held that.

Told you they were watching me.

 

[Scorpion]

You haven't seen the studies from the Caer Paravel teaching hospital in Narnia which was validated by the Hogwarts School of Medicine? If you want to keep up with your made up medicine you have to keep on top of your made up literature.


Or, no, just assertions that they are.

Yea, well in searching for 'spirit release therapy' on google I have found a lot of so called therapists cashing in on it, and asking exorbitant fees for absent healing.

I just remembered something. In 1969 when I started hearing threatening voices I asked my mother to get a spiritualist medium to come and exorcize any evil spirits that might be obsessing me. The head of the local church came to see me, and he said there was nothing evil around me.

 

[The Shrike]

You seem like a nice enough tro– bloke Scorpion, and I wish you no ill will. If any of the things you share here are true, please make haste in seeking an appointment with a fully-licensed, board-certified medical doctor. That doctor can prescribe medication that could change your life and help you find a psychiatric specialist truly adept at treating people with your specific needs.

 

[Scorpion]

You seem like a nice enough tro– bloke Scorpion, and I wish you no ill will. If any of the things you share here are true, please make haste in seeking an appointment with a fully-licensed, board-certified medical doctor. That doctor can prescribe medication that could change your life and help you find a psychiatric specialist truly adept at treating people with your specific needs.

You obviously have not followed any of my recent links, which lead to information that some psychiatrists have subscribed to the belief that consciousness does not originate in the brain but the immortal spirit, and that some people are obsessed by discarnate spirits. I am less crazy than you think.

 

[Thor 2]

Tom Johanson said in his lecture that entities feel static electricity like fire. He did not say anything about conventional low voltage from electroacupuncture machines, but there is mention of that in a book I am expecting to be delivered today. I have already tried passing a low voltage across my stomach but it did not work. I can still hear faint whispering voices in my ears. Which begs the question, am I going to try a large static charge when my wimshurst machine finally arrives. I think it is coming from China by ship.

I suspect you have very little understanding of what you are doing.

- "I have already tried passing a low voltage across my stomach but it did not work." ...... You do not "pass" a voltage. You may "apply" a voltage and a current will pass between the electrodes applied. The size of the current will be determined by the size of the voltage and the resistance.

- "am I going to try a large static charge when my wimshurst machine finally arrives." ...... As I mentioned above you would have had a large static charge on your body many times in the past. Perhaps as high as 50,000 volts as I mentioned above, so you would have been able to observe any effect on your whisperings, whether as a result of astral entities or chi, or whatever other mystical crap you want to attribute it to.

 

[Pixel42]

You obviously have not followed any of my recent links, which lead to information that some psychiatrists have subscribed to the belief that consciousness does not originate in the brain but the immortal spirit, and that some people are obsessed by discarnate spirits. I am less crazy than you think.

Alternatively some psychiatrists are more crazy than we think.

 

[wasapi]

You obviously have not followed any of my recent links, which lead to information that some psychiatrists have subscribed to the belief that consciousness does not originate in the brain but the immortal spirit, and that some people are obsessed by discarnate spirits. I am less crazy than you think.

Scorpion. I do not think of you as crazy, but I do believe there is an imbalance in your brain chemistry. You are under considerable stress and agitation. I doubt that you are taking proper care of yourself, exacerbating the issue with your symptoms.

I don't know how you selected the doctors out there that haven't helped, but it is unfortunate. I finally found one who 'got me' and recognized what I was suffering from. Yes, I am labeled "mentally ill", and it doesn't bother me. After finding the medication that was right for my brain chemistry imbalance, I began medication, that I will need to take the rest of my life.


But now, I can honestly say that I am happy. Yes, I have life's problems, and losses, but I function. I have a better relationship with friends and family. And, I know joy daily.


Wouldn't that be good, Scorpion? A fresh start. Nothing electrical will ever do that for you.

Take care,
Julia

 

[LongFuzzy]

Scorpion,
You say you are now going to apply 80v to those acupuncture needles. Do you know that the internal resistance of the human body could be as low as 300ohms? Since you are qualified, how much current could be pushed through your body? Is the device you are using current limited? How much current will/can it deliver? Think about this. Is the voltage applied AC, DC, Pulsed? Does it make any difference? Do you think you might want to answer these questions (for yourself) before you go zapping yourself? Do you care what you might do to yourself?

 

[Scorpion]

Scorpion,
You say you are now going to apply 80v to those acupuncture needles. Do you know that the internal resistance of the human body could be as low as 300ohms? Since you are qualified, how much current could be pushed through your body? Is the device you are using current limited? How much current will/can it deliver? Think about this. Is the voltage applied AC, DC, Pulsed? Does it make any difference? Do you think you might want to answer these questions (for yourself) before you go zapping yourself? Do you care what you might do to yourself?

Voltage divided by resistance equals current. The device I used applies volts by sticky pads, not needles. So the skin is not broken and skin resistance is therefore a factor. The device used pulsed volts on a cycle of every couple of seconds.

 

[Scorpion]

Scorpion. I do not think of you as crazy, but I do believe there is an imbalance in your brain chemistry. You are under considerable stress and agitation. I doubt that you are taking proper care of yourself, exacerbating the issue with your symptoms.

I don't know how you selected the doctors out there that haven't helped, but it is unfortunate. I finally found one who 'got me' and recognized what I was suffering from. Yes, I am labeled "mentally ill", and it doesn't bother me. After finding the medication that was right for my brain chemistry imbalance, I began medication, that I will need to take the rest of my life.


But now, I can honestly say that I am happy. Yes, I have life's problems, and losses, but I function. I have a better relationship with friends and family. And, I know joy daily.


Wouldn't that be good, Scorpion? A fresh start. Nothing electrical will ever do that for you.

Take care,
Julia

Yea ! thanks, but there still might be a spirit world, and there may even be a God. So what do doctors really know.

 

[The Shrike]

Yea ! thanks, but there still might be a spirit world, and there may even be a God. So what do doctors really know.

Even if there were a spirit world and "god", modern medicine can help you, Scorpion.

 

[wasapi]

Yea ! thanks, but there still might be a spirit world, and there may even be a God. So what do doctors really know.

But why can't they co-exist? If there is God and a spirit world, it would make sense to listen to doctors, who would be created by God, and spirit worlds are about healing, increasing knowledge, thru doctors, perhaps. Wasn't the son of God a healer?


Wouldn't you like to experience peace and joy?

 

[Cosmic Yak]

Another interesting link on spirit release therapy.

https://psi-encyclopedia.spr.ac.uk/articles/spirit-release-therapy

From the article:

Spirit Release Therapy (SRT) is a clinical treatment sometimes used with patients who appear to be ‘possessed’ by a harmful spirit entity, and who have not responded to conventional psychotherapy or psychiatric methods. Its claims have yet to be substantiated by rigorous empirical studies.

The rest of the article follows the same path, making claims whilst being very careful to shy away from actually saying that any of this is real.

What does that tell you, Scorpion?

 

[Darat]

Yea ! thanks, but there still might be a spirit world, and there may even be a God. So what do doctors really know.

They know how to treat and control many diseases and also how to alleviate the suffering caused by symptoms of illnesses.

 

[P.J. Denyer]

They know how to treat and control many diseases and also how to alleviate the suffering caused by symptoms of illnesses.

Why would you want to trust trained professionals with a years or decades of study in evidence based and tested techniques when you can electricute yourself on the advice of an untrained charlatan who tells pretty stories?

 

[abaddon]

I have had in mind the possibility that there might be entities in my stomach that whisper to me since the 1970's lecture I attended. This seems to me to be as likely an explanation for the voices as any other. I would certainly pay money for equipment that might get rid of them. I can often feel unusual activity in my stomach that seems more than the digestive process. In fact if I wave my hands over my stomach several inches to a foot above it. I can feel in my palms some kind of electrical field moving around.
I do not know if everyone can feel this. Try it yourself and let me know.

Everyone can feel this. I can induce such a feeling in anyone. It is commonly claimed as "auric" sensitivity. In reality, it is mere physiology coupled with psychology.

You are conning yourself.

 

[abaddon]

From the article:



The rest of the article follows the same path, making claims whilst being very careful to shy away from actually saying that any of this is real.

What does that tell you, Scorpion?

I find it unsurprising that someone would try to push through to the end of a patients delusion by pretending to go along with it to reach a resolution. It seems an obvious tactic to deploy.

 

[Scorpion]

Everyone can feel this. I can induce such a feeling in anyone. It is commonly claimed as "auric" sensitivity. In reality, it is mere physiology coupled with psychology.

You are conning yourself.

There is no psychology involved in what I feel. there is definitely some kind of electrical energy between my palms and my stomach, even when they are a foot above it. I would really like to get everyone to try moving their hands around above their stomach and say if they can feel movement in their palms.