H'ethetheth
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Kimpatsu said:
What?
I'm not quite sure if that's what helicopters do.
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What?
I'm not quite sure if that's what helicopters do.
I'll rephrase: by rotating (note that verb: it's what helicopter blades do) its wings in a figure-of-eight, bees create lift in a fashion more akin to helicopters than planes, unlike birds.H'ethetheth said:What?
I'm not quite sure if that's what helicopters do.
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H'ethetheth
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Kimpatsu said:
I don't quite agree, but I know what you mean.
However, I would like to continue being a wise-ass for one more post.
Bird flight is very similar to insect flight, but most birds do not have to twist their wings so far to get the right angle of attack, depending on their forward velocity; All birds flap figures of eight, with the hummingbird as the extreme instance. So I think that one shouldn't lump birds with planes or insects with helicopters. I'd say there's a spectrum of flapping to flapping-and-gliding to mostly gliding. Then there's unflapping powered flight, and as a strange outsider there's the asymmetrical helicopter.
Edit: Please excuse me for derailing this thread.
For derailing the thread, you should be tied to the rails with the train coming.H'ethetheth said:I don't quite agree, but I know what you mean.
However, I would like to continue being a wise-ass for one more post.
Bird flight is very similar to insect flight, but most birds do not have to twist their wings so far to get the right angle of attack, depending on their forward velocity; All birds flap figures of eight, with the hummingbird as the extreme instance. So I think that one shouldn't lump birds with planes or insects with helicopters. I'd say there's a spectrum of flapping to flapping-and-gliding to mostly gliding. Then there's unflapping powered flight, and as a strange outsider there's the asymmetrical helicopter.
Edit: Please excuse me for derailing this thread.
As for the rest, I agree I'm oversimplifying, but I'm actually trying to explain to the nutball who posted the "things that can't be explained" rubbish why it is that the notion bees shouldn't be able to fly is a legend. The trouble with analogies is that they can be taken too far. Yes, hummingbirds also wind their wings in a figure-of-eight, but hawks don't. For the most part, they glied, making them more like the space shuttle.
Now, if you'll excuse me, I'm off to open another beer.
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Doesn't ANYONE read my bleedin' posts... mutter, mutter, mutter...Kimpatsu said:
WHAT PART OF "ADEQUATE" DID YOU NOT UNDERSTAND???
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Dr Adequate said:
The "Q". That one always gets me.
That's right; I never said he was. I said I was debunking the rubbish being quoted here.Ashles said:
Maybe you should actually read my posts. Just because you were caught out by this doesn't mean that I was. (Note that I couldn't qoute from the original thread directly, because the sheer number of quotes it contained overloaded the JREF server, which then refused to permit me to quote the quote.)
Are we reading the same thread here? I knew exactly what point Dr Adequate was making all along. Where was I 'caught out' exactly?
I have read your posts - you were the one who called him a 'nutball'.
It looks like you got the post wrong and are pretending you didn't.
No, I bloody well did not call him a nutball. I was referring o the originator of the quotes. As I explained, the server wouldn't let me link to him directly. You, however, referred to him earlier as if he were the originator of the quotes, rather than the thread... didn't you?Ashles said:
No.
Your post made it look as though you were referring to Adequate as a nutball. If you weren't then fair enough but that's just how it looked.
Edited to add: The quotes came from many different sources - there was no single 'originator'
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Kimpatsu said:
did you get to fly in one of these?
I enjoyed this one so much I went to check out where it came from. The extended quote is even better:
This is probably the most bizarre use of the phrase "Why not be logical" ever thought of in the whole of mankind's history.
And you've got to love the concrete analogy.
Read the full mad page in it's entirety here - Your head will spin from the lunacy and ignorance
Dr Adequate said:
It's obvious to anybody that no sceptic could have got all those quotes together without dying from lack of oxygen caused by shouting “but. but, but, but…..†as they read them, therefore you are nutjob or a bee.
No, I was attacking the sources of the quotes, not the originator of the thread. The problem was that there are so many quotes (i.e., the Quote function has been used so many times), when I try to quote the quotes, the system won't let me. Hence the cut-and-paste approach to my original offering.Ashles said: