Merged Scientific Proof Liberalism is a Birth Defect / Genetically disposed

[Piscivore]

Teddy Roosevelt was a soldier, explorer, and hunter.

"Roosevelt attempted to move the Republican Party in the direction of Progressivism, including trust busting and increased regulation of businesses. Roosevelt coined the phrase "Square Deal" to describe his domestic agenda, emphasizing that the average citizen would get a fair shake under his policies. As an outdoorsman and naturalist, he promoted the conservation movement. "

"The Progressive Party of 1912 was an American political party. It was formed after a split in the Republican Party between President William Howard Taft and former President Theodore Roosevelt.

Inspiration for the party's beginnings may have come from Roosevelt's friend and supporter, U.S. Senator Thomas Kearns of Utah, who in October of 1906 broke off from the Republican Party and started the American Party in that state. This was a direct response because of Mormon church leadership influence on the Senatorial elections between 1902 to 1905.

Roosevelt retired as President in 1909. He had selected Taft, his Secretary of War to succeed him, and Taft easily won the 1908 presidential election. Roosevelt became disappointed by Taft's increasingly conservative policies. By 1912, the two were openly hostile, and Roosevelt decided to seek the presidency."


Sounds like a "Lib" to me.

 

[leftysergeant]

Considering that dopamine receptor gene has stimulated some of the most "crudest and hostile" blather emanating from celeb libs, it is no wonder you guffaw at their attempts at humor.


BTW: Jon Stewart considers Dennis Miller to be the smartest, and one of the funniest, comedians he knows.

Nice that somebody likes that misanthropic little twit.

 

[leftysergeant]

FDR was a moma's boy right up to 1941.

Teddy Roosevelt was a soldier, explorer, and hunter.

FDR was physically disabled for a good part of his life.

 

[Piscivore]

FDR was physically disabled for a good part of his life.

Is an astonishingly egregious ignorance of history also asociated with the lack of this gene?

 

[leftysergeant]

FDR also took better care of the soldiers returning disabled from the front line than have the last pack of Republican warpigs like the Shrub and Rummy and the nosferatu.

 

[Cicero]

FDR was physically disabled for a good part of his life.

Is an astonishingly egregious ignorance of history also asociated with the lack of this gene?

And both of you demonstrate that presence of this gene guarantees invincible ignorance.

T.R. was an asthmatic child and sickly to the age of 15. FDR didn't contract Guillain-Barre syndrome until he was 39. Where was FDR being "adventurous and outgoing and risk taking" for all those near 40 years?

 

[applecorped]

Have they found the Atheist gene yet?

 

[332nd]

Where was FDR being "adventurous and outgoing and risk taking" for all those near 40 years?

Learning how to shoot, ride, & row in his early years. Then he fell in love with golf. Also, he was a member of Alpha Delta Phi which was the frat Animal House was based on (albeit the Dartmouth Chapter) so... win.

 

[Piscivore]

And both of you demonstrate that presence of this gene guarantees invincible ignorance.

T.R. was an asthmatic child and sickly to the age of 15. FDR didn't contract Guillain-Barre syndrome until he was 39. Where was FDR being "adventurous and outgoing and risk taking" for all those near 40 years?

"Roosevelt grew up in an atmosphere of privilege... Roosevelt went to Harvard, where he lived in the "Gold Coast" area where wealthy and privileged students lived in luxurious quarters and was a member of the Alpha Delta Phi fraternity... While he was at Harvard, his fifth cousin Theodore Roosevelt became President, and Theodore's vigorous leadership style and reforming zeal made him Franklin's role model and hero."

If not for T.R.'s progressive, "Liberal" example, he probably would have ended up conservative.

 

[Trakar]

You're initial post in no way conflicted with my claim. My claim was that Liberal nations tend to have the highest standard of living and success. You're claim that (liberal nations) cause the most wars falls flat once you consider far right nations aren't involved in wars at any lower frequency then far left nations.

Left and Right are political perspectives in Liberal nations. I can't think of a single example of a modern Conservative nation, about as close as I can come might be pre-seventies China, but even this was more the case of being a conservative liberal state than a true conservative state. I think what may be fouling the understanding here is the confusion between a state expressing conservative characteristics and traits, and states ruled by what are often touted by politicians and politicos as "conservative" values and ideals. I'm talking about states expressing conservative characteristics (withdrawn, preferring internal high order and structure, largely or entirely uninvolved beyond their borders, strongly nationalistic and generally rejectful of change or advancement in any and all forms, etc.) There are many liberal nations that trend toward conservatism (N Korea and Burma in particular come to mind, but even these express many Liberal characteristics that to my mind make it impossible to accurately dub them conservative nations).

I should have modified my statement with a question of there involvement in the instigation or creation of wars because no doubt they're involved in wars in some degree or another but more then likely are rarely instigators of those wars.

to my mind instigation is of little significance, the important issue is engagement. If a nation is actively engaging and interacting with other nations in any manner, it is most likely a liberal nation. A conservative nation should be extremely risk-averse and only really concerned with what happens within its own borders.

 

[Cicero]

"Roosevelt became disappointed by Taft's increasingly conservative policies."Sounds like a "Lib" to me.

Now you are claiming the Republican Teddy was a lib? The mind boggles. The wiki wiki quote you used is typically without citation.

"If an American is to amount to anything he must rely upon himself, and not upon the State; he must take pride in his own work, instead of sitting idle to envy the luck of others. He must face life with resolute courage, win victory if he can, and accept defeat if he must, without seeking to place on his fellow man a responsibility which is not theirs."– Theodore Roosevelt

"There can be no divided allegiance here. Any man who says he is an American, but something else also, isn't an American at all. We have room for but one flag, the American flag, and this excludes the red flag, which symbolizes all wars against liberty and civilization, just as much as it excludes any foreign flag of a nation to which we are hostile ... We have room for but one language here, and that is the English language ... and we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a loyalty to the American people." – Theodore Roosevelt,

Is the message of your fellow liberals?

 

[Cicero]

Learning how to shoot, ride, & row in his early years. Then he fell in love with golf. Also, he was a member of Alpha Delta Phi which was the frat Animal House was based on (albeit the Dartmouth Chapter) so... win.

Rowing and golf are "adventurous?" The most fearsome thing FDR did was marry Eleanor.

 

[BenBurch]

Natural selection will favor which one of these genes in the context of a human society, I wonder?

 

[Piscivore]

Is the message of your fellow liberals?

I'm not a liberal.

ETA: And I'm certainly not a Communist.

 

[Cicero]

Nice that somebody likes that misanthropic little twit.

And that "somebody" just had POTUS Obama on his show. Now if you could indicate where Miller has shown any hatred for mankind perhaps your characterization would not be complete bollocks.

 

[Piscivore]

Now you are claiming the Republican Teddy was a lib? The mind boggles. The wiki wiki quote you used is typically without citation.

It wasn't quoting Roosevelt, it was a quote of the wiki article about Roosevelt.

But speaking of citations... where are yours?

"If an American is to amount to anything he must rely upon himself, and not upon the State; he must take pride in his own work, instead of sitting idle to envy the luck of others. He must face life with resolute courage, win victory if he can, and accept defeat if he must, without seeking to place on his fellow man a responsibility which is not theirs."– Theodore Roosevelt

"There can be no divided allegiance here. Any man who says he is an American, but something else also, isn't an American at all. We have room for but one flag, the American flag, and this excludes the red flag, which symbolizes all wars against liberty and civilization, just as much as it excludes any foreign flag of a nation to which we are hostile ... We have room for but one language here, and that is the English language ... and we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a loyalty to the American people." – Theodore Roosevelt,

 

[Ziggurat]

Now if you could indicate where Miller has shown any hatred for mankind perhaps your characterization would not be complete bollocks.

You can't ask for evidence: it's axiomatic. Miller is conservative, and for Lefty, that's the same thing as hating mankind.

 

[Cicero]

I'm not a liberal.

ETA: And I'm certainly not a Communist.

Would it not have been expeditious just to say what you are?

 

[Cicero]

It wasn't quoting Roosevelt, it was a quote of the wiki article about Roosevelt.

Even though you failed to identify the source, I tagged it as a non-citation wiki wiki blurb that you quoted. Who said it came from T.R.?

But speaking of citations... where are yours?

They are at the end of the quotes.

 

[Cicero]

You can't ask for evidence: it's axiomatic. Miller is conservative, and for Lefty, that's the same thing as hating mankind.

NPR shares this sentiment and extend it to liberals who appear on FOX news.