Merged Scientific Proof Liberalism is a Birth Defect / Genetically disposed

[ProBonoShill]

I knew it would come out one day.

http://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/weird/Scientists-May-Have-IDd-Liberal-Gene-105917218.html



Researchers have determined that genetics could matter when it comes to some adults' political leanings.

According to scientists at UC San Diego and Harvard University, "ideology is affected not just by social factors, but also by a dopamine receptor gene called DRD4." That and how many friends you had during high school.

Source: Scientists Find 'Liberal Gene' | NBC San Diego

 

[Spindrift]

Maybe they should call it the soul gene and conservatives are born without one.

 

[T.A.M.]

Don't worry PBS, i got your back. When they come looking for those that do not possess this superior gene, i will make sure they know that even though you do not possess it, you are worth saving.

TAM

 

[DC]

Scientific Proof Liberalism is a Birth Defect Advantage.

i suspected already that conservatives are not fully developed Humans, now they have found evidence. interesting.

 

[Nova Land]

I knew it would come out one day...

Researchers have determined that genetics could matter when it comes to some adults' political leanings....

This is old news. I recall reading about this back in 1993, when early research results on this subject were first published. Here's an item which appeared in the July 26 1993 New York Times:

The startling discovery that affiliation with the Republican Party is genetically determined, announced by scientists in the current issue of the journal Nurture, threatens to overshadow the announcement by Government scientists that there might be a gene for homosexuality in men.

Reports of the gene that codes for political conservatism, discovered after a long study of quintuplets in Orange County, Calif., has sent shock waves through the medical, political and golfing communities...

 

[Nova Land]

For those with limited time to read New York Times items, I recommend reading the item from 1993. But for those with enough time to read two articles, here's a report from June 21 2005 on further research into this subject:

"Some Politics May Be Etched in the Genes"

Political scientists have long held that people's upbringing and experience determine their political views. A child raised on peace protests and Bush-loathing generally tracks left as an adult, unless derailed by some powerful life experience. One reared on tax protests and a hatred of Kennedys usually lists to the right.

But on the basis of a new study, a team of political scientists is arguing that people's gut-level reaction to issues like the death penalty, taxes and abortion is strongly influenced by genetic inheritance. The new research builds on a series of studies that indicate that people's general approach to social issues - more conservative or more progressive - is influenced by genes...

The report, which appears in the current issue of The American Political Science Review, the profession's premier journal, uses genetics to help answer several open questions in political science...

 

[leftysergeant]

Well, DUH! It was a behavioral trait that fitted the Hominidae to survive in greater numbers. The additional care that hominids were willing to show their injured or ailing fellows helped ensure their survival, and sometimes their return to full function. That they took such good care of their elderly assured individuals that they would be taken care of in their turn.

So hard-core no-social-security-for-you-working-schlubs neocons are missing a human trait that is apparently hereditary.

 

[Cicero]

Genetically Predisposed To Be Politically Left Wing

"By matching genetic information with maps of the subjects' social networks, the researchers were able to show that people with a specific variant of the DRD4 (dopamine receptor gene) were more likely to be liberal as adults, but only if they had an active social life in adolescence."

http://www.physorg.com/news/2010-10-liberal-gene.html

 

[T.A.M.]

there is already a thread on this subforum discussing the wonderful discovery of this superior genetic predisposition to Liberalism. Don't worry, we won't try to use genetic selection to breed out those Right Wingists who don't have it.


TAM

 

[Trakar]

So we have a Liberal gene that promotes free-spirited, innovative, open-minded and popular people (5HTT), and a conservative gene that promotes fearful, incurious, dogmatic, routine preferring tagalongs (D4DR), match these with environmentally tuned personality traits that seem tied to the full expressions of these genes and we have a reliable means of eliminating these segments of the population from both voting or holding elected office!

 

[Ziggurat]

So hard-core no-social-security-for-you-working-schlubs neocons are missing a human trait that is apparently hereditary.

I see somebody still doesn't know what the word "neocon" means, other than being a boogeyman for you.

Here's a hint, lefty: traditional conservatives are more hostile to entitlement programs than neocons are.

 

[elbe]

I see somebody still doesn't know what the word "neocon" means, other than being a boogeyman for you.

It's only fair considering how some on the right don't know what socialism is, other than a bogeyman.

 

[Ziggurat]

i suspected already that conservatives are not fully developed Humans, now they have found evidence. interesting.

So let me make sure I've got this straight.

The original post posits that liberalism is a birth defect, a notion which is reprehensible in its dehumanizing effect and ironically anti-conservative in its premise that we are not responsible for our choices and beliefs.

And your response to this is not to point out how vile such ideas of genetically-based superiority/inferiority are categorically, but rather to simply co-opt this awful idea to try to make your side the winner in a fight that should never be fought.

Somehow, I don't think that helped.

 

[Ziggurat]

It's only fair considering how some on the right don't know what socialism is, other than a bogeyman.

There's a saying that escapes me at the moment, something about two wrongs...

 

[elbe]

There's a saying that escapes me at the moment, something about two wrongs...

Didn't say it did. Extremists on both sides say strange things.

 

[T.A.M.]

So let me make sure I've got this straight.

The original post posits that liberalism is a birth defect, a notion which is reprehensible in its dehumanizing effect and ironically anti-conservative in its premise that we are not responsible for our choices and beliefs.

And your response to this is not to point out how vile such ideas of genetically-based superiority/inferiority are categorically, but rather to simply co-opt this awful idea to try to make your side the winner in a fight that should never be fought.

Somehow, I don't think that helped.

Not a defect. If it is in fact true, it is a genetic blessing.

TAM

 

[lomiller]

I knew it would come out one day.

http://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/weird/Scientists-May-Have-IDd-Liberal-Gene-105917218.html



Researchers have determined that genetics could matter when it comes to some adults' political leanings.

According to scientists at UC San Diego and Harvard University, "ideology is affected not just by social factors, but also by a dopamine receptor gene called DRD4." That and how many friends you had during high school.

Source: Scientists Find 'Liberal Gene' | NBC San Diego

Not much new here, it’s been established for a while that scared of the dark bed wetter’s tend to grow up to be conservatives while self-confident risk takes tend to grow up to be liberals

 

[Ziggurat]

Didn't say it did.

You said, "It's only fair considering how some on the right don't know what socialism is, other than a bogeyman." Perhaps you want to make some distinction between "fair" and "right", but whatever that distinction might be, it sure as hell isn't obvious.

 

[elbe]

You said, "It's only fair considering how some on the right don't know what socialism is, other than a bogeyman." Perhaps you want to make some distinction between "fair" and "right", but whatever that distinction might be, it sure as hell isn't obvious.

"It's only fair" that because right wing extremists can say stupid things than left wing extremists can say stupid things too. Equal opportunity and all that.

It was more of a joke from all the threads about some people not knowing what socialism is. I think you take things oddly seriously.

 

[Ziggurat]

"It's only fair" that because right wing extremists can say stupid things than left wing extremists can say stupid things too. Equal opportunity and all that.

And that's different from saying two wrongs make a right... how?

It was more of a joke from all the threads about some people not knowing what socialism is.

One can note the equivalence without approving of it.

I think you take things oddly seriously.

Perhaps I do. I'll just have to suffer with this disability and make do as best I can.