School bullies many years later.

[Cainkane1]

I still suffer from emotional and social problems from being bullied in school. And these problems cause me to get bullied around as an adult. So for me it's a never ending thing and will only end when I'm dead.

Sorry to hear that but once out of school it seems to me like a phone call to the police might serve to help you if you are still being harrassed.

 

[quarky]

I was a jock, but not a dick. Cruelty is something I can't tolerate.

 

[rjh01]

Do something about bullies when they are still at school and long term crime rates will go down. As per post 98.

 

[Eyeron]

Sorry to hear that but once out of school it seems to me like a phone call to the police might serve to help you if you are still being harrassed.

It's not that kind of harassment that warrants police involvement.

 

[Thunder]

i'd love to meet some of my bullies from school. a good wack on the head with my extendable baton would put it alllll into perspective.

 

[Xulld]

Not really. It's often the popular people who do the bullying, as well as the so-called normal people. It's all about the pecking order.

I cant currently find it, but recently read a study about bullying being used to increase social standing.

The majority of the bullies I encountered would fall into that category.

Myself and another strangely large young man named Willie where anti-bullies and would search out bullies to beat to pieces. We where not popular when we started, but became very popular in a short period of time.

I am happy to say our motivation was purely altruistic and eventually came to an uneasy truce with most of the problem jerks. I can easily say the ones we never made amends with are now either in Jail or out on parole waiting to be caught again doing something heinous.

Anti-social is anti-social, but that IMHO is the minority of bullies, most do it for exactly the social status gained.

I don't have the same tales of woe as everyone else, but that's because I have been fortunate in my life to have an 'anti-bully' as a little brother.

My brother, George, and I are a year apart in age and grew up in a small coal mining town. As little kids we were picked on, I was the bookish nerd and he was the chubby boy with a severe speech impediment.

Suddenly, junior high came and my brother shot up to 6'2 (he reached 6'6 eventually) and his speech, after years of therapy, was normal. My anti-bully was born.

It started when some jocks were in a school hall way picking on a retarded child. George actually put one of them in a garbage can, another upside down in a locker. This continued throughout the rest of his school career. I called him 'Defender of the Meek'.

George eventually became a cop. It wasn't a shock to me. I still have the newspaper clipping of when he pulled a small child basically out of the jaws of a pitbull-mix and got himself mauled instead. He makes me proud every day.

The retarded kid he saved from the bullies? My brother takes the guy to the store once a week to shop and takes him to doctors appointments.

Similar story to mine.

At age 12 I was 6'1 by age 15 I was 6'4. I started in Martial Arts at 12, and was quite and reserved but always confident and if not popular well liked.

My friend Willie was very popular, just that guy everyone likes, not full of himself, just funny and happy go lucky.

We where both on the football team and just really didn't like jerks. I honestly feel proud, perhaps more proud of that time of my life then any time since.

I didn't know how big a difference we made until years later when one of the severely bullied kids sent me a message on myspace telling me how we saved his high school years from being unbearable.

On two occasions teachers actually broke up a fight where we where thrashing bullies and told us to haul ass without getting the standard suspensions, people know when something is justice, and something unjust.

I honestly think that standing up to bullies makes a difference, however what is sad is that adults have there hands tied, suspensions, expulsion, timeouts are ineffective and silly. A good thrashing by your peers however . . .

 

[Cainkane1]

I cant currently find it, but recently read a study about bullying being used to increase social standing.

The majority of the bullies I encountered would fall into that category.

Myself and another strangely large young man named Willie where anti-bullies and would search out bullies to beat to pieces. We where not popular when we started, but became very popular in a short period of time.

I am happy to say our motivation was purely altruistic and eventually came to an uneasy truce with most of the problem jerks. I can easily say the ones we never made amends with are now either in Jail or out on parole waiting to be caught again doing something heinous.

Anti-social is anti-social, but that IMHO is the minority of bullies, most do it for exactly the social status gained.

I agree. Selfish and they don't care who they hurt.

 

[jhunter1163]

There was a kid in our school who was kinda like Xulld. He wasn't a big guy, maybe five feet six, but he was a fifth-degree black belt. Nicest guy in the world, but absolutely, positively not to be messed with.

A group of cretins made the mistake of messing with him once; they spit on the newly-waxed hood of his car in the school parking lot. He sent two of them to the hospital and was working on the third when the authorities got there.

Good on him, I say.

 

[calebprime]

Let's see jhunther1163, you approve of assaulting someone with potentially lethal force because they spit on your car?

Ah, another car-lover.


Oh, it was newly waxed. That makes all the difference.

 

[Cainkane1]

Let's see jhunther1163, you approve of assaulting someone with potentially lethal force because they spit on your car?

Ah, another car-lover.


Oh, it was newly waxed. That makes all the difference.

It wasn't because they spit on his car. If he hadn't done something about that incident they would have done something else and continued on and on. He did the right thing.

 

[LibraryLady]

It wasn't because they spit on his car. If he hadn't done something about that incident they would have done something else and continued on and on. He did the right thing.

Or--he could have driven away laughing at them for being idiots. I find pointing and laughing pretty effective. Instead he became one of them.

 

[jhunter1163]

Spitting on someone's car is an obvious provocation. And the thing about provoking people is, sometimes you get a different response than you bargained for. These three clowns figured they could bully this small, inoffensive guy. They figured wrong. And Cain is right; it wouldn't have stopped with spitting on the car if he hadn't ended it.

You could argue that the punishment he dished out didn't fit the crime, and looking back from thirty years on I might well agree. But at the time he was maybe 17 years old and still growing up. I doubt that any of us can say we never overreacted to provocation at 16 or 17 years old.

 

[Cainkane1]

Spitting on someone's car is an obvious provocation. And the thing about provoking people is, sometimes you get a different response than you bargained for. These three clowns figured they could bully this small, inoffensive guy. They figured wrong. And Cain is right; it wouldn't have stopped with spitting on the car if he hadn't ended it.

You could argue that the punishment he dished out didn't fit the crime, and looking back from thirty years on I might well agree. But at the time he was maybe 17 years old and still growing up. I doubt that any of us can say we never overreacted to provocation at 16 or 17 years old.

bear in mind it wouldnn't have happened if they had left him the hell alone.

 

[jhunter1163]

bear in mind it wouldnn't have happened if they had left him the hell alone.

True, but that's not the nature of the bully. Bullies pick on people they perceive to be weaker. They saw someone smaller than them, who didn't look like he was a physical threat, and figured he was a good candidate for bullying. They didn't know he'd been studying karate since he was about five. In their primitive minds, might makes right; if they'd known he could beat their asses, there's no doubt in my mind that they would have left him the hell alone.

 

[aggle-rithm]

A while back I saw a news show about the bullying problem in school. They said, (I'm paraphrasing) "The tormented children sometimes become so traumatized that they kill themselves...or worse, their tormenters."

Am I the only one who wonders: Why is it WORSE for the tormentors to die than a completely innocent person?

 

[TheWeirdSkeptic]

A while back I saw a news show about the bullying problem in school. They said, (I'm paraphrasing) "The tormented children sometimes become so traumatized that they kill themselves...or worse, their tormenters."

Am I the only one who wonders: Why is it WORSE for the tormentors to die than a completely innocent person?

Because instead of just their (The victim) life being ruined if they kill themselves two people's lives are ruined if the victim murders the bully.

That'd be my take on it.

 

[Khonshu]

The biggest bullies I knew in HS:

Clint accidentally (apparently) shot himself

Ken fell off the back of a forklift, smashing the back of his skull. Both were fatal. One grew up & out of his bullying, the other never had a chance to.

I may have not liked them too much, but I felt bad for their families. Someone once told me - the worst person you've ever met, remember, there's someone that loves them. His job was a fatal accident investigator - he got to see more than enough families firsthand.

 

[Cainkane1]

A while back I saw a news show about the bullying problem in school. They said, (I'm paraphrasing) "The tormented children sometimes become so traumatized that they kill themselves...or worse, their tormenters."

Am I the only one who wonders: Why is it WORSE for the tormentors to die than a completely innocent person?

I'll tell you what happened at a Highschool near where I used to live. A larger boy was picking on a smaller boys girlfriend and the smaller boy shoved a knife in his back. The larger boy didn't die but he lost his spleen. Theres some people you can''t get away with pushing around.

 

[calebprime]

Spitting on someone's car is an obvious provocation. And the thing about provoking people is, sometimes you get a different response than you bargained for. These three clowns figured they could bully this small, inoffensive guy. They figured wrong. And Cain is right; it wouldn't have stopped with spitting on the car if he hadn't ended it.

You could argue that the punishment he dished out didn't fit the crime, and looking back from thirty years on I might well agree. But at the time he was maybe 17 years old and still growing up. I doubt that any of us can say we never overreacted to provocation at 16 or 17 years old.

Sorry about my snippy tone.

My fuse is short these days, and I shouldn't take it out on other people.

Quarky, I knew Matt Suhey. You sir, are no Matt Suhey.

I'd drop acid with you any time. So it's a good thing you're not around here.

 

[Cainkane1]

The biggest bullies I knew in HS:

Clint accidentally (apparently) shot himself

Ken fell off the back of a forklift, smashing the back of his skull. Both were fatal. One grew up & out of his bullying, the other never had a chance to.

I may have not liked them too much, but I felt bad for their families. Someone once told me - the worst person you've ever met, remember, there's someone that loves them. His job was a fatal accident investigator - he got to see more than enough families firsthand.

I have an odd bully story. I was 16 and a small kid was in line at the bus going to school. I was horsing around with this kid and we were having fun. I felt sorry for him because he looked more like a ten year old than a 13 year old. The younger kid was enjoying the attention. Other people could see us and they were smiling. One person I noticed was staring rather hard at me but he didn't say anything. The guy staring hard at me was a tough guy and he sometimes pushed weaker kids around. He was the smaller kids older brother. I better be glad I'm not a bully myself.