Saudi journalist disappears in embassy, believed murdered

[Bikewer]

Being a journalist seems an increasingly-poor career choice now all over the world. NPR’s The World has recently reported on the state of affairs in Mexico, where much as in Russia journalists are increasingly attacked, threatened, beaten, or simply killed... Both by government actors or by the cartels.

 

[Bob001]

Being a journalist seems an increasingly-poor career choice now all over the world. NPR’s The World has recently reported on the state of affairs in Mexico, where much as in Russia journalists are increasingly attacked, threatened, beaten, or simply killed... Both by government actors or by the cartels.

And Dear Leader isn't helping matters any with his vicious, belligerent attacks on Fake Media. This guy is/was a legal U.S. resident and an employee of a U.S. newspaper. Let's see if the Trump administration has anything to say.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...ory.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.eeff18540e21

 

[Henri McPhee]

I don't think anyone is exterminating Palestinians Henri. Somewhat off topic.

I am not so sure about that:

https://www.strategic-culture.org/n...ter-advocated-exterminating-palestinians.html

On 1 July 2014, Shaked had approvingly posted to her Facebook page a statement by Uri Elitzer, who had previously served as Netanyahu’s Press Secretary. Shaked said, in her Facebook post, that his statement had been «written 12 years ago» but is «relevant today as it was then» (i.e., back in 2002). Elitzer’s statement urged extermination of all Palestinians.

 

[fagin]

The headchoppers in Saudi Arabia are in charge of UN human rights. They are friends of Britain according to Dearlove, formerly of MI6, unlike the Palestinians who are to be exterminated. Follow the money.

I don't think anyone is exterminating Palestinians Henri. Somewhat off topic.

I think there is a bit of a difference between someone (an idiot presumably) 'urging' something, and actual extermination...

And if you had followed your link, you might have noticed that the word 'extermination' is not actually used. I will admit it is a rather extreme view.

I am not so sure about that:

On 1 July 2014, Shaked had approvingly posted to her Facebook page a statement by Uri Elitzer, who had previously served as Netanyahu’s Press Secretary. Shaked said, in her Facebook post, that his statement had been «written 12 years ago» but is «relevant today as it was then» (i.e., back in 2002). Elitzer’s statement urged extermination of all Palestinians.

https://www.strategic-culture.org/n...ter-advocated-exterminating-palestinians.html

ETA but still has squat to do with the OP.

 

[Henri McPhee]

I think there is a bit of a difference between someone (an idiot presumably) 'urging' something, and actual extermination...

And if you had followed your link, you might have noticed that the word 'extermination' is not actually used. I will admit it is a rather extreme view.



ETA but still has squat to do with the OP.

It's relevant to this thread in the way Israel and Saudi Arabia seem to be allies at the moment in a war on Iran, and possibly on Yemen, and both countries have been interfering in the internal affairs of Syria, and supporting the Syrian opposition.

Journalists don't get bugged or murdered unless they incur the "frown of the great" as Shakespeare wrote once.

 

[fagin]

The headchoppers in Saudi Arabia are in charge of UN human rights. They are friends of Britain according to Dearlove, formerly of MI6, unlike the Palestinians who are to be exterminated. Follow the money.

I don't think anyone is exterminating Palestinians Henri. Somewhat off topic.

It's relevant to this thread in the way Israel and Saudi Arabia seem to be allies at the moment in a war on Iran, and possibly on Yemen, and both countries have been interfering in the internal affairs of Syria, and supporting the Syrian opposition.

Journalists don't get bugged or murdered unless they incur the "frown of the great" as Shakespeare wrote once.

Unless you are suggesting that Mossad took him out in the Saudi Embassy, which is patently absurd, you are just doing your standard join the invisible dots rambling.

He was critical of SA, and disappeared in the SA embassy.

How hard is it?

And the Palestinians are still not being exterminated.

 

[chrispy]

Being a journalist seems an increasingly-poor career choice now all over the world. NPR’s The World has recently reported on the state of affairs in Mexico, where much as in Russia journalists are increasingly attacked, threatened, beaten, or simply killed... Both by government actors or by the cartels.

Our main paper here in Guate has taken great pride in persisting with investigative pieces despite not a few attacks and assassinations

 

[Vixen]

I couldn't see him in the broom cupboard, when that awfully nice ambassador opened the door to it so journalists could see for themselves he wasn't hiding in there.

 

[Sideroxylon]

Perhaps they had to eat the evidence?

Or carry him out of the country in items of luggage.

 

[Wildy]

Ah.

I'd expect them to both be on 'team Sunni'.

But they're different kinds of Sunni. Then again I'd personally question if Wahabis are still Sunni, but that's a different discussion.

 

[Childlike Empress]

Mainstream Journos Are Pissed That Their Beloved Saudi Clown Prince Nabs One Of Their Class

 

[fagin]

You really should stay off the moonshine.

 

[The Great Zaganza]

Mainstream Journos Are Pissed That Their Beloved Saudi Clown Prince Nabs One Of Their Class

that should teach journalists not to oppose the powers that be.

 

[Eddie Dane]

I follow this guy on Youtube, he's quite interesting and often does commentary on SA.

According to him, this latest crazy stunt is the last nail in the coffin of SA's Vision 2030 program. After having a purge, a crappy unwinnable war in Yemen, a host of cancelled ambitious infrastructure projects etc, investors are running for the door.

Looks like SA will still be a fundamentalist oil-state by the time we ditch oil, or it runs out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3fYy6KRrSBc

 

[TragicMonkey]

But they're different kinds of Sunni. Then again I'd personally question if Wahabis are still Sunni, but that's a different discussion.

I suspect the animosity is more ethnic than religious, Arab vs Turk. Although it does blend in with religion-- Arabs in general and Saudi Arabia in particular seem to consider themselves the most genuine inheritors of Islam, and while other ethnicities are certainly welcome to be Muslims too they can never be quite quite, not like a Saudi Arab can be. This attitude, or the perception of it, has caused some difficulties in the past.

 

[zooterkin]

Our main paper here in Guate has taken great pride in persisting with investigative pieces despite not a few attacks and assassinations

A photo-journalist acquaintance of mine in Malta had to report on the death of his cousin, also a journalist, murdered by a car bomb. Two other journalists in EU countries have been murdered in the last year; all apparently in response to investigations they had been making into corruption.

 

[CORed]

Bit over kill

You would think 2 or 3 with baseball bats would do the trick

One with a .22 revolver could get the job done.

 

[Belz...]

Bit over kill

You would think 2 or 3 with baseball bats would do the trick

Depends. Maybe the guy moonlighted as a Batman-like vigilante.

 

[Belz...]

Ah.

I'd expect them to both be on 'team Sunni'.

The near east is messed up, man.

 

[Arcade22]

NKARA, Turkey — Top Turkish security officials have concluded that the Saudi dissident Jamal Khashoggi was assassinated in the Saudi consulate in Istanbul on orders from the highest levels of the royal court, a senior official said Tuesday.

The official described a quick and complex operation in which Mr. Khashoggi was killed within two hours of his arrival at the consulate by a team of Saudi agents, who dismembered his body with a bone saw they brought for the purpose.

“It is like ‘Pulp Fiction,’” the official said.

Saudi officials, including Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman, have denied the allegations, insisting that Mr. Khashoggi left the consulate freely shortly after he arrived. President Recep Tayyib Erdogan of Turkey has demanded that the Saudis provide evidence proving their claim.

It remains unclear how the Turkish government determined that Mr. Khashoggi had been killed, but the conclusion that the Saudi royal court ordered it could increase the pressure on both sides of the dispute. It would make it more difficult for the two governments to come up with a face-saving story blaming Mr. Khashoggi’s disappearance on some third party, on rogue elements of the Saudi security forces, or on an accident during an interrogation that went wrong.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/09/world/europe/jamal-khashoggi-turkey-saudi-arabia.html

The claim that he left quickly is utterly unbelievable because they would've very quickly and conclusively show this with footage from the myriad of CCTV cameras that are both inside and outside of the consulate. The Saudi's haven't offered a single sliver of proof that he simply walked away.

Is too much to hope that this will be straw the brakes the camels back and forces western countries to reconsider their relations with this murderous barbaric regime? Or is it just too good to stop suckling on those precious oil pumps?