Sarah Palin!

As for her 90% approval rating: less than 10% of her state revenues come from Alaskan citizens, with the rest coming from oil companies and the federal government. They have enough money left over to mail 4 figure checks to the citizens each year. Essentially, Alaskan citizens are trust fund babies. They get a free ride.

Eliminate my 6% sales tax, my 6.4 % state income tax, continue state services, and mail me a check, and you'll be popular in New Jersey as well.
 
gdnp said:
As for her 90% approval rating: less than 10% of her state revenues come from Alaskan citizens, with the rest coming from oil companies and the federal government. They have enough money left over to mail 4 figure checks to the citizens each year. Essentially, Alaskan citizens are trust fund babies. They get a free ride.

Eliminate my 6% sales tax, my 6.4 % state income tax, continue state services, and mail me a check, and you'll be popular in New Jersey as well.
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Then why did she defeat the prior person (Frank Murkowski) who was sending out the checks? Hmmm?
 
You know, looking at the photo of her that the McCain people are using. . .

She looks like a Remax agent.
 
Brainster said:
Then why did she defeat the prior person (Frank Murkowski) who was sending out the checks? Hmmm?
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My understanding is that there were charges of arrogance, exemplified by the Governor's jet that Palin auctioned off. There were also these issues

Upon his inauguration, he resigned his Senate seat and appointed his daughter, Lisa Murkowski, the Majority Leader-designate of the Alaska House of Representatives, in his place. This led his opponents to accuse him of nepotism; as a result, a ballot measure passed in 2004 stripped governors of the power to appoint U.S. Senators, making Alaska one of only three states to do so.

Toward the end of his administration he brokered a deal for a gas pipeline that was never considered, in final form, by the legislature. Murkowski threatened to sign the deal without legislative approval, but the legislature successfully brought a lawsuit to enjoin him from doing so.
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nepotism, getting sued by the legislature.

It's tough to be unpopular given the advantages that he had, so you have to give the guy credit for extra effort.
 
BenBurch said:
Palin is not even qualified to run Alaska. Expect to hear a lot in coming days about some possibly criminal activity surrounding her tenure there.
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So that's why you're voting for the guy so impressed with Todd Stroger he made a commercial endorsing him for Cook County Board President last year? Judgement Ben, judgement. It's not been Obama's strong suit.

Local issue, but I'm sure Ben knows all about it!
 
The issue of judgment brought to the spotlight ...


http://www.newsweek.com/id/156258


Happy birthday, Johnny Mac! You're 72 now, a cancer survivor, and a presidential candidate who has said on many occasions that the most important criteria for picking a vice president is whether he or she could immediately step in if something happened to the president. Your campaign against Barack Obama is based on the simple idea that he is unready to be president. So you've picked a running mate who a year and a half ago was the mayor of Wasilla, Alaska, a town of 8,500 people. You've selected a potential leader of the free world who knows little or nothing about the major issues of the day beyond energy. Oh, and she's being probed in her state for lying and abuse of power.
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She may or may not be as qualified as Obama. She may or may not have done anything wrong. She could become the greatest or worst V/POTUS ever. But, this is what likely will hurt McCain the most with those sitting on the fence.
 
Gene L said:
Palin is a wonderful choice, and has Democrats stunned and worried.
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LOL

More like she has the Democrats licking their chops.

She has more executive experience than the Democratic nominee for President,
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Before you try selling that Kool-aid.......

"Experience" is NOT a 1 for 1 match, apples and oranges are not the same.

In my day job I am a Senior Systems Director in charge of all technology security for a large multinational architectural firm. I have been doing computer and network security specifically for 10 or so years.

There are people out there that have 15 years experience as level one help desk support managers, it's a hard job I feel for them.

That said, I could do their jobs if needed but even though they have more "experience" (time on the job) they don't have the skills to do what I do.

The point is experience is not created equal, time on the job is not a 1 for 1 exchange. Time spent as a counsel member and mayor of a "city" (I use the term loosely) of 5500 people or as the Governor of state smaller than 15 US cities is NOT the same as working in the state senate of the 5th largest state in the nation, or in the US Senate from the same 5th largest state in the nation.

Graduating with a Bachelor of Science degree in journalism with a minor in political science from University of Idaho is NOT the same experience as a earning a BA in Political Science (with a specialization in international relations) from Columbia University and graduating Magna Cum Laude with a Juris Doctor law degree from the Harvard Law School. It just isn't... sorry.

Having a background in TV sports reporting and being Miss Wasilla after winning a beauty contest is NOT the same as having a background in teaching law and as the director of the Developing Communities Project in Chicago.


and is a "real" person, which is refreshing given the anti-Washington feeling running around this country.
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Sure, you keep telling yourself that. And, even if that were true and she is actually "anti-Washington" what does it matter if you already have the same viewpoints of the Washington insiders anyway?

LOL

Give me a break.
 
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Well, in line with my rather insipid prediction, she pushed Obama down in the headlines yesterday. This morning, I notice that Gustav is headlining CNN.com...
I think all of the novelty is going to get old quickly. Looks like all the candidates are going to try to win based on their merits... (or lack thereof in the others ;) )
 
BenBurch said:
I am being told that there is something else, too, that will be used only if needed...
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This wouldn't be the gutter rumor that your buddy Thom Hartmann was trying to spread on yesterday's show, would it?
 
Bododio said:
The biggest issue I see is that if McCain croaks while in office, she'd be the president, with seemingly little or no credible experience of the kind necessary for the office. Could you see her as president?
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And if Obama doesn't croak in office...

ETA: I swear, this thread grew by ten pages between the time I looked at it and the time I posted. I should know by now to stay out of politics!
 
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And if Obama doesn't croak in office...
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See my post above about experience (time on the job) NOT being a 1 for 1 exchange, because it isn't. Obama is VASTLY more qualified to be POUS than Sarah Palin.

That said, I said this before and I will say it again. Once you reach a base level of experience in a given field the quality of work any individual produces starts to be based on their own merrit.

A little non-scientific research I saw a while back showed that the quality of past presidents were in no correlation to their "experience" level. Some of the least experienced presidents have had the most lasting positive impact on our nation.

It's just REALLY important to remember that there does need to be a certain level of experience that needs to be met before the above is true. Holding a Bachelor of Science degree in journalism, being a beauty queen , former town mayor and sports reporter does not reach that bar for me.
 
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See my post above about experience (time on the job) NOT being a 1 for 1 exchange, because it isn't. Obama is VASTLY more qualified to be POUS than Sarah Palin.

That said, I said this before and I will say it again. Once you reach a base level of experience in a given field the quality of work any individual produces starts to be based on their own merrit.

A little non-scientific research I saw a while back showed that the quality of past presidents were in no correlation to their "experience" level. Some of the least experienced presidents have had the most lasting positive impact on our nation.

It's just REALLY important to remember that there does need to be a certain level of experience that needs to be met before the above is true. A Bachelor of Science degree in journalism beauty queen and former town mayor does not reach that bar for me.
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Experience is not important for the president, but it is for the vice president? And all that gooey stuff about "base level of experience" is your basic "a miracle occurs" step.

Former town mayor? Meet former state senator. Oh, Barack's an actual US senator now? And Palin's a governor, and they've had a similar amount of experience in those positions (Obama had two years as a senator before he became a full-time presidential candidate).

But please, feel free to expound on the need for experience. Or the lack of need for experience, depending on whether you're talking about Palin or Obama.
 
not_so_new said:
It's just REALLY important to remember that there does need to be a certain level of experience that needs to be met before the above is true. Holding a Bachelor of Science degree in journalism, being a beauty queen , former town mayor and sports reporter does not reach that bar for me.
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It's true, she doesn't have a decade of experience being manipulated and made by corrupt Illinois politicians and political hanger-ons.
 
gdnp said:
What planet are you from? Bill clinton served two terms as governor of Arkansas. He served from 1979-1981, was voted out, but was then reelected and served a second term from 1983-1992, a total of 12 years.

Overall I think he did pretty well. Would have done better if he could keep his pants on.
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To be more accurate, he could have done better had he been more careful where and when he took his pants off.:)
 
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