When the going got tough in Alaska, Sarah Palin quit... Yup, that's who I want as president of the United States... a quitter![]()
Reading your arguments, Sporanox, I am struck with the idea that one could use them (with minor tweaking) to assert that the majority of the animus towards the President from both Republicans and Teabaggers can be attributed to their racism.Bush, Cheney, and Clinton do not recall the stereotypical view of a redneck so clearly as Palin does - what with her shooting elk (I think...and wolves, if you remember that famous controversy), attending the local snowmobile races, having a husband who raced in the Iditarod, being videotaped at a chicken slaughter...
Let's be honest, Bush and Cheney are associated with privilege. In Clinton's case, well, he may have hailed from a rural area, but he can hardly compete against Palin's symbolism. There's a reason one of the most popular nicks for her is Caribou Barbie.
EDIT: I'm not saying her conversational appearances weren't damaging - I've acknowledged that, previously - but the sheer depth of the hatred for her, which MikeMagnum also addressed, is explainable by the confirmation bias of people who just have stereotypical ideas about rednecks.
she didn't "quit".
she resigned. its much more acceptable when you...resign.
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Pardon me. Yup, that's who I really want as president... someone who "resigns" when things get a little rough. If Palin couldn't handle some heat from the Alaska legislature, then she isn't ready for any national level public office, much less one as important as POTUS.
While I'd never criticize Palin for resigning from any public office (or private), the rationale that the media was too much for her to handle was a bit much.
Reading your arguments, Sporanox, I am struck with the idea that one could use them (with minor tweaking) to assert that the majority of the animus towards the President from both Republicans and Teabaggers can be attributed to their racism.
Pardon me. Yup, that's who I really want as president... someone who "resigns" when things get a little rough. If Palin couldn't handle some heat from the Alaska legislature, then she isn't ready for any national level public office, much less one as important as POTUS.
I like Sarah Palin.
I also like Iron Maiden.
Don't see either of them as President, however.
Since I said it was not required, I would think the answer would be obvious.Do you really believe that someone must be an intellectual to do all of those things? Honestly?
I'm sure you agree with the futility of a semantic argument here. We are talking about the qualifications of Palin for office. She has no training in any kind of public policy or law. She has shown no inclination in later life to receive the training. She is quite ignorant of very basic issues. Etc. That's the point that was being made.Eisenhower did all of those things, and generally did them well, and he was not an intellectual. Unless by "intellectual", you mean "smart". The truth is, the two of those things are NOT synonymous, nor is one a subset of the other. Derrida and Foucault prove that.
If you want to quibble about the definition of 'intellectual', you'll have to find somebody else to engage you. I'll happily accept a different term if you would like to proffer one. I will leave you with the phrase "read widely in history, military science, and philosophy" as a quality I would like any president to share, and suggest that "graduated first in [a] class of 245" is not a bad quality to have either, call it what you will. It's the kind of thing we (of this thread) are looking for in our future leaders, and we are not seeing it in Palin. My offer to show me these qualities still stands, of course - I'm not the best judge of people. To be honest, though, given all she was asked what newpapers she reads and couldn't name one, I'm not really holding out hope that she has read even narrowly in military theory, philosophy, law, or public policy - the knowledge on which a President makes her decisions.His Panama service (1922-24) introduced him to General Fox Conner who took him under his wing and encouraged him to read widely in history, military science, and philosophy and was instrumental in Eisenhower's acceptance by the Command and General Staff School at Fort Leavenworth, Kansas. Eisenhower graduated first in the 1926 class of 245 officers.
I say it simply because I observe that your argument boils down to an assertion that the level of disapproval Sarah Palin is subject to (from some) is based more upon her cultural background than her actual flaws.
You point out that the "Caribou Barbie" stereotype is threatening to some due to its' alienness. The hunting, and the "you betcha' " are code for- "not like us" to her detractors.
Could the same not be said about "Barak Hussein Obama" and his "community organising"?
Can I not use the same rationale to link ODS to racism?
I am beginning to feel a sort of growing dread that the actual "Palin denial syndrome" will prove to be a liberal denial that Palin is going to be a significant force in national politics for the rest of her life.
But if the job is the POTUS, the ex-business owner, ex-mayor, and ex-governor, all of which she did quite well in, Palin, got the ex-law professor, ex-community organizer, and ex-congressman beat in terms of qualifications, no doubt about it.
I seriously doubt that the Dems would (officially) do such a thing. Leave it to the media. You remember, I suspect, that Dan Quayle ran for president in the 2000 primaries and got his ass handed to him in a saucer. And the Dems didn't have anything to do with that. Quayles reputation did that.Whether Palin will run, or whether she will win (both unlikely, in my view), is another issue. And, no, I don't think she should be president -- there are better qualified people. But one thing is certain: if she does run, "ha ha, she's soooooooooo stupid" attacks by the Democrats will have no appreciable effect, or, if anything, will alienate potential voters and make more of them vote for, not against, her.
This is it in a nutshell, right here. It has little to do with her qualifications or lack thereof; it has little to do with her intelligence or lack thereof, even her policy positions are secondary. For those people who just can't stand Palin, it is because, as far as they are concerned, she comes from a different culture...she isn't one of them. The jokes about Palin, and many of the derogatory comments (aside from those that sexualize her or otherwise attack her for being a woman) are about cultural traits associated with "being country folk": her hunting, the way she talks, her family, the small town she lives in, the multiple (non-Ivy league) colleges she went to, being a past beauty queen, past sportscaster, etc. She did get a journalism degree, which would normally buy her a pass, but it wasn't from Columbia, it was from the University of Idaho. IDAHO! That's just icky. Idaho is full of hicks, just like Alaska!
From all accounts, she was a reasonably effective executive as mayor and governor.