Russell Brand accused of rape and sexual assault

[SpuriusMaximus]

Oh dear. We were joking about stuff, but now Brand is going to be transferred to Wakefield, aka, the Monster Mansion. It's where sex offenders get killed.

Man, jokes about his soon reconsidering his views about sex and consent (like the Jimmy Carr joke up in the thread,) would have been a happy ending compared to that. If he only comes out of there with seeing what anal rape feels from the receiving end, he can be thankful.

Honestly, as much of an arsehole as I am, I wouldn't even wish that upon anyone who harmed me personally.

 

[Andy_Ross]

Monster Mansion bollocks.

It's a category A prison for high risk offenders.
If he is sent there he will be safer than in a regional cat B or C prison, the security is very high.

He's still being assessed. I might have to eat my words but I doubt he's a Category A prisoner.

 

[Andy_Ross]

It seems Russell might be getting a bigtax bill.
As he's going to be in jail for seven years at least he's a UK resident again.

 

[Garrison]

Seems weird to me that the women didn't go to the police at the time? Or perhaps they did but nothing happened. I can't see how trying to shove a woman into the loo and her resisting turns into a court case twenty years later...?

Don't get me wrong, I loathe the creepy character.

Also I can't see why it is 'LIVE' reporting on BBC News page, as if Brand is a major important person.

So more willful ignorance on your part then.

 

[Garrison]

From the parallel thread

Post in thread 'David Walliams accused of preying on young women'

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Don’t just blame the culture for keeping powerful men’s dirty secrets. Blame the law too | Gaby Hinsliff

It is important to understand just how effectively perpetrators of abuse have used lawyers as their shields. A challenge to that can’t come soon enough, says Guardian columnist Gaby Hinsliff

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Don’t just blame the culture for keeping powerful men’s dirty secrets. Blame the law too
Gaby Hinsliff

It is important to understand just how effectively perpetrators of abuse have used lawyers as their shields. A challenge to that can’t come soon enough

This has been very obvious this week

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And it was all completely pointless. Reading comments on a Youtube video about the 'well known man' and the first one was 'Wall I am shocked by this.' A handful of journalists couldn't print a name everyone already knew if they cared to find out.

 

[Garrison]

That's comedy, but IRL it's well documented that the worst convicts get the most Oblivion-style adoring fans. As I was saying, Watts literally murdered his pregnant wife and two preteen daughters in cold blood, and not only has a female following, but one literally engaged him. And it's not even "alleged", since he confessed to the murders and was sentenced.

And not only he literally boned other dudes in prison, but he bought them gifts and sent them love letters, for Pete's sake. Which is fine by me, per se, but then what's the interest in wanting to marry a gay guy in prison, as a woman? Like, what, you're gonna bring a male friend to the conjugal visits?

Probably not most women on either account (I hope), but there are SOME nutcases in both sexes.

I guess everyone has a soulmate out there. Just some people's soul mate is a psychopathic murderer

It even has a formal name:

Hybristophilia - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[zooterkin]

And it was all completely pointless. Reading comments on a Youtube video about the 'well known man' and the first one was 'Wall I am shocked by this.' A handful of journalists couldn't print a name everyone already knew if they cared to find out.

I don't know about completely pointless. In the cases of Brand and Walliams, legal threats worked for several years before they got found out. Jimmy Savile got away with it until the end, and those are the ones we know about.

 

[The Atheist]

It has always saddened me that I have seen so many women who seem to prefer wronguns, bad boys, over gentle decent men. It is like lambs preferring lions as companions, you would think that natural selection would breed that sort of behaviour out, especially when you consider how many women are killed by their partners.

One of the most beautiful women I ever knew was one of those. Brought up in a loving family, and a thoroughly decent person herself, she stayed with a gang member until she finally realised that he would only stop trying to kill her when he succeeded.

 

[jimbob]

I don't know about completely pointless. In the cases of Brand and Walliams, legal threats worked for several years before they got found out. Jimmy Savile got away with it until the end, and those are the ones we know about.

, and those are the ones we know about.

This is almost certainly the case.

 

[jimbob]

Seems weird to me that the women didn't go to the police at the time? Or perhaps they did but nothing happened. I can't see how trying to shove a woman into the loo and her resisting turns into a court case twenty years later...?

Don't get me wrong, I loathe the creepy character.

Also I can't see why it is 'LIVE' reporting on BBC News page, as if Brand is a major important person.

There are plenty of possible reasons.

For starters, predators tend to successfully prey on those who are vulnerable for whatever reasons.

Then there is the intimidation. "If you accuse me, you had better win because if not, my lawyers will bankrupt you and I will ruin your reputation. If you play nicely with me, I will give you some money to shut up and you will then have signed a binding NDA"

For example

 

[arthwollipot]

 

[Thermal]

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Pinch o' Devil's Advocate, here-

Can you picture sending someone to prison for murder with no corpse, not a shred of physical evidence, really nothing but someone saying 'yeah I'm sure he did a murder, but I forgot to mention it for a couple decades, and we all know how fantastic human memory is especially after years"?

I mean, I'm very inclined to believe the women, but I can totally understand someone being skeptical of the strength of the evidence. If we put people away for murder with no physical evidence at all, are you going to tell me that you wouldn't be gravely concerned about whether the lowest bar of justice was met?

 

[arthwollipot]

Can you picture sending someone to prison for murder with no corpse, not a shred of physical evidence, really nothing but someone saying 'yeah I'm sure he did a murder, but I forgot to mention it for a couple decades, and we all know how fantastic human memory is especially after years"?

Oh no, if only the judge in the case had found some way to account for this, he'd be in jail right now...