Russell Brand accused of rape and sexual assault

[Carrot Flower King]

A thing which always astonishes me is the number of women who crawl out of the woodwork to defend the likes of Brand or whoever.

Have they never talked to other women about their experiences? Have they never met and observed predatory men? Do they think all these stories are fabrications and fantasies? What?

And that's before we get on to the wilful ignorance of men and women about how justice systems and especially courts work...

 

[SpuriusMaximus]

TBH, I think some incels aren't even sure that women exist, much less be able to hold a conversation with one. They probably think it's another guy "transmaxxing" (real thing, look it up) and even then they'd probably get a nosebleed if they actually said "hi" to one.

 

[jimbob]

TBH, I think some incels aren't even sure that women exist, much less be able to hold a conversation with one. They probably think it's another guy "transmaxxing" (real thing, look it up) and even then they'd probably get a nosebleed if they actually said "hi" to one.

Yup. See the "transinvestigators" trying to convince themselves that Taylor Swift is actually a bloke.

 

[SpuriusMaximus]

But yes, half of women's romance fiction is about dating some absolute psychopath who just somehow isn't that for just her. Like, sis, that's not how psychopathy works.

And IRL, yes, there are women who'll be panpals and even try to marry some serial killer while he's serving literally 10 consecutive life sentences with no parole. I mentioned Watts before: he murdered his pregnant wife and two pre-teen daughters for another woman... and then in prison, let's just say he was balls deep in boyfriends One even got caught with Watts's underpants and a bottle of lube in his cell during a search. And a couple more testified in court about how Watts posed as their Bible mentor (speaking of Brand discovering Jesus behind his sofa) when they were new and vulnerable, and preyed on them. And somehow he has a lot of female penpals adoring him. Now I have no problem with the gay, you do who you're attracted to, and it's none of my business, but maybe he's not that much into you if you're a female?

One even got engaged to him while he was in prison. And then HE dumped HER. Like, can you imagine the humiliation when you can't even find a guy who wants to murder you? (Gallows humour, for those humour impaired.)

Hell, Ted Bundy, who was one of the most prolific serial killers of women, had females outside adoring him.

No idea why. I've never been female. But I'd keep waay away from that kind of murderer.

 

[SpuriusMaximus]

Yup. See the "transinvestigators" trying to convince themselves that Taylor Swift is actually a bloke.

Oh, that's been going on for two decades or more in the far right about everyone they dislike. And sometimes, they don't even dislike HER specifically, but want to smear her husband as gay. (While the rest of us scratch our heads and think, "so? If that were the way he swings, and they're both happy with it, it's not my problem.") See Obama and Macron as two prominent examples.

 

[jimbob]

Oh, that's been going on for two decades or more in the far right about everyone they dislike. And sometimes, they don't even dislike HER specifically, but want to smear her husband as gay. (While the rest of us scratch our heads and think, "so? If that were the way he swings, and they're both happy with it, it's not my problem.") See Obama and Macron as two prominent examples.

And the claims that pro Kremlin accounts pushed about Keir Starmer. Which included rumours that the Russian-sponsored arson attacks on properties associated with Starmer being due to a rent boy that Starmer somehow betrayed.

And I heard people repeat those, so they got some traction outside the internet. I did point out to some of the people who shared that with me, when they arsonist was convicted and his sponsorship by Russia. I doubt it will make them more careful of their news sources, but I hope it might give them some pause.

 

[SpuriusMaximus]

And the claims that pro Kremlin accounts pushed about Keir Starmer. Which included rumours that the Russian-sponsored arson attacks on properties associated with Starmer being due to a rent boy that Starmer somehow betrayed.

And I heard people repeat those, so they got some traction outside the internet. I did point out to some of the people who shared that with me, when they arsonist was convicted and his sponsorship by Russia. I doubt it will make them more careful of their news sources, but I hope it might give them some pause.

From my personal anecdotal experience, CTers don't get a pause and look at reality if it came and bit them in the arse. Even pointing out that two of their pet CTs are mutually incompatible, and can't possibly be both true in the same universe, will just get them butthurt and convinced that you've been brainwashed,

 

[jimbob]

That's revolting.

I thought Carr had hit bottom when he took the Saudi money, but I wasn't even close.

Yup

I think it's spot on

I don't.

On one level it's utterly hypocritical given his approving jokes about David Walliams's behaviour and laughing along with Brand.

And on another.

It's not exactly undermining rape culture to make jokes about prison rape, even of rapists

 

[P.J. Denyer]

Farage was guest on Brand podcast after sexual assault investigation began

Reform leader this week criticised the Labour party for ‘cosying up to’ and ‘promoting’ disgraced comedian

www.theguardian.com

And, of course, The Shallow One, who has been working his mouth about Miliband appearing on Brand's earlier podcast, appeared on the newer Brand podcast AFTER it was revealed he was under investigation for sexual offences.

It's just like Reform's vetting process, isn't it?

I can only assume that 'Reform Party' uses the word in the same way we used to for 'Reform Schools'.

 

[SpuriusMaximus]

On one level it's utterly hypocritical given his approving jokes about David Walliams's behaviour and laughing along with Brand.

I'm pretty sure he was laughing AT Brand, not WITH him.

 

[jimbob]

I'm pretty sure he was laughing AT Brand, not WITH him.

In that video yes.

Before it was public knowledge but apparently well known in the comedy circuit, not really.

 

[SpuriusMaximus]

In that video yes.

Before it was public knowledge but apparently well known in the comedy circuit, not really.

Well, it was in response to an inquiry from the audience in the theatre. OF COURSE you wouldn't get that question before it was public knowledge.

 

[Nessie]

A thing which always astonishes me is the number of women who crawl out of the woodwork to defend the likes of Brand or whoever.

Have they never talked to other women about their experiences? Have they never met and observed predatory men? Do they think all these stories are fabrications and fantasies? What?

And that's before we get on to the wilful ignorance of men and women about how justice systems and especially courts work...

It has always saddened me that I have seen so many women who seem to prefer wronguns, bad boys, over gentle decent men. It is like lambs preferring lions as companions, you would think that natural selection would breed that sort of behaviour out, especially when you consider how many women are killed by their partners.

 

[Andy_Ross]

 

[P.J. Denyer]

Just remember, it doesn't work if you have ◊◊◊◊ on your forehead.

 

[Andy_Ross]

Petition on Change.org to free Russell Brand. It's linked from Brand's own account.





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Prevent Change.org allowing petitions raising money for convicted rapists. https://c.org/yjtKcMRSzP via @UKChange

 

[Carrot Flower King]

Petition on Change.org to free Russell Brand. It's linked from Brand's own account.


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Prevent Change.org allowing petitions raising money for convicted rapists. https://c.org/yjtKcMRSzP via @UKChange

That's a novel use of "Justice for all": justice for all except those who have suffered rape or sexual assault by someone who thought they had impunity.

And if he appeals against his conviction or sentence can this be used as evidence of a total lack of contrition?

 

[SpuriusMaximus]

That's a novel use of "Justice for all": justice for all except those who have suffered rape or sexual assault by someone who thought they had impunity.

And if he appeals against his conviction or sentence can this be used as evidence of a total lack of contrition?

One can only hope. It could happen. Probably won't. But it COULD.

 

[jimbob]

From the parallel thread

Post in thread 'David Walliams accused of preying on young women'

Yesterday at 6:07 PM

Don’t just blame the culture for keeping powerful men’s dirty secrets. Blame the law too | Gaby Hinsliff

It is important to understand just how effectively perpetrators of abuse have used lawyers as their shields. A challenge to that can’t come soon enough, says Guardian columnist Gaby Hinsliff

www.theguardian.com

Don’t just blame the culture for keeping powerful men’s dirty secrets. Blame the law too
Gaby Hinsliff

It is important to understand just how effectively perpetrators of abuse have used lawyers as their shields. A challenge to that can’t come soon enough

This has been very obvious this week

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[SpuriusMaximus]

That's comedy, but IRL it's well documented that the worst convicts get the most Oblivion-style adoring fans. As I was saying, Watts literally murdered his pregnant wife and two preteen daughters in cold blood, and not only has a female following, but one literally engaged him. And it's not even "alleged", since he confessed to the murders and was sentenced.

And not only he literally boned other dudes in prison, but he bought them gifts and sent them love letters, for Pete's sake. Which is fine by me, per se, but then what's the interest in wanting to marry a gay guy in prison, as a woman? Like, what, you're gonna bring a male friend to the conjugal visits?

Probably not most women on either account (I hope), but there are SOME nutcases in both sexes.

I guess everyone has a soulmate out there. Just some people's soul mate is a psychopathic murderer