Russell Brand accused of rape and sexual assault

[SpuriusMaximus]

"This obvious conservative stalwart" she said. Who's "fawning" now?
Her belief appears to be that he was "targeted" because he is conservative?

The funniest part is that he was as leftist as it goes at the time this happened. For Pete's sake, Brand was actually advocating for a revolution in interviews at the time.

 

[Andy_Ross]

It's always the ones you most suspect.

David Walliams has been named as the celebrity who tried to block publication of sexual misconduct allegations.

He had asked the High Court to block the publication of the investigation, with his lawyers arguing if the allegations were made public he would likely kill himself.

The court refused the request, saying the risks could be mitigated and that it was not the court's responsibility to protect his wellbeing.

 

[Darat]

Who thought it was a good idea to put her in the House of Lords?

Sharron Davies HoL MBE
@sharrond62
My heart genuinely breaks for those children repeatedly abused by rape gangs, whilst large sways of our politicians, including those right at the top, look the other way, whilst waxing lyrical about justice being rightly dished out to Russell Brand. We live in such unjust times.

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It really pisses me off that a few minutes on the internet will show that many "grooming gang" members got over 10 years, even 28 years in one case.

ETA:


These are literally the first two my Google search came back with:

Rhyl grooming gang who were 'predators with no remorse' sentenced

The court heard the men met in a popular coffee house in Rhyl, with the girls approached on the street.

www.bbc.co.uk

"The ringleader of the gang Mustafa Iqbal was jailed for 35 years after being convicted of 21 offences, including four rapes and three of sexual assault involving all three of the girls."​

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Ringleader of Rochdale grooming gang jailed for 35 years

Two girls were repeatedly raped and assaulted from the age of 13 in the Greater Manchester town.

www.bbc.co.uk

"Rochdale grooming gang ringleader jailed for 35 years"​

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The convictions and sentences in full were as follows:

• Pakistan-born Mohammed Zahid, 65, of, Station Road, Crumpsall, was convicted of raping Girl A and Girl B, indecency with a child and procuring a child to have sex and was jailed for 35 years
• Mushtaq Ahmed, 67, of Corona Avenue, Oldham, and Kasir Bashir, 50, of Napier Street East, Oldham, who were also born in Pakistan, were convicted of repeated counts of rape and indecency with a child in relation to Girl B and were jailed for 27 and 29 years respectively
• Mohammed Shahzad, 44, of Beswicke Royds Street, Rochdale; Naheem Akram, 49, of Manley Road, Rochdale; Nisar Hussain, 41, of New Field Close, Rochdale, were convicted of repeated counts of rape against Girl A and were jailed for 26, 26 and 19 years
• Pakistan-born Roheez Khan, 39, of Athole Street, Rochdale, was found guilty of a single count of rape against Girl A and jailed for 12 years

 

[Andy_Ross]

It really pisses me off that a few minutes on the internet will show that many "grooming gang" members got over 10 years, even 28 years in one case.

ETA:


These are literally the first two my Google search came back with:

Rhyl grooming gang who were 'predators with no remorse' sentenced

The court heard the men met in a popular coffee house in Rhyl, with the girls approached on the street.

www.bbc.co.uk

"The ringleader of the gang Mustafa Iqbal was jailed for 35 years after being convicted of 21 offences, including four rapes and three of sexual assault involving all three of the girls."​

​

Ringleader of Rochdale grooming gang jailed for 35 years

Two girls were repeatedly raped and assaulted from the age of 13 in the Greater Manchester town.

www.bbc.co.uk

"Rochdale grooming gang ringleader jailed for 35 years"​

Fake news
None of them were arrested and they are protected by the Police and Labour
I read it on the Internet.

Benonwine
@benonwine
Russell Brand was investigated, charged, tried and jailed. Justice was done, and rightly so.

So why have the Pakistani grooming gangs that abused thousands of young girls in Rotherham, Rochdale, Telford and beyond never been pursued with the same ferocity?

Too many victims were ignored for years by police and councils frightened of being called racist.

Every girl deserved the same justice. Why didn't they get it?

 

[Andy_Ross]

Russell Brand is said to be 'furious' with his barrister over his performance in the trial that culminated in his conviction and imprisonment for rape and sexual assault.

Brand, who was sentenced to ten and a half years yesterday, is now said to be looking to employ a different legal team if he faces further charges, according to legal sources.

Russell Brand is 'furious' over barrister's court performance

Brand, who was sentenced to ten and a half years yesterday, is now said to be looking to employ a different legal team if he faces further charges, according to legal sources.

www.dailymail.com

 

[jimbob]

Fake news
None of them were arrested and they are protected by the Police and Labour
I read it on the Internet.

Yes I read that too.

Labour buried the case during the Tory government by arranging for a Muslim to successfully prosecute the grooming gang members under the direction of Keir Starmer as DPP.

1D chess. Nobody would think to look at the news reports of the court cases.

 

[zooterkin]

It really pisses me off that a few minutes on the internet will show that many "grooming gang" members got over 10 years, even 28 years in one case.

ETA:


These are literally the first two my Google search came back with:

Rhyl grooming gang who were 'predators with no remorse' sentenced

The court heard the men met in a popular coffee house in Rhyl, with the girls approached on the street.

www.bbc.co.uk

"The ringleader of the gang Mustafa Iqbal was jailed for 35 years after being convicted of 21 offences, including four rapes and three of sexual assault involving all three of the girls."​

​

Ringleader of Rochdale grooming gang jailed for 35 years

Two girls were repeatedly raped and assaulted from the age of 13 in the Greater Manchester town.

www.bbc.co.uk

"Rochdale grooming gang ringleader jailed for 35 years"​

​

The convictions and sentences in full were as follows:

• Pakistan-born Mohammed Zahid, 65, of, Station Road, Crumpsall, was convicted of raping Girl A and Girl B, indecency with a child and procuring a child to have sex and was jailed for 35 years
• Mushtaq Ahmed, 67, of Corona Avenue, Oldham, and Kasir Bashir, 50, of Napier Street East, Oldham, who were also born in Pakistan, were convicted of repeated counts of rape and indecency with a child in relation to Girl B and were jailed for 27 and 29 years respectively
• Mohammed Shahzad, 44, of Beswicke Royds Street, Rochdale; Naheem Akram, 49, of Manley Road, Rochdale; Nisar Hussain, 41, of New Field Close, Rochdale, were convicted of repeated counts of rape against Girl A and were jailed for 26, 26 and 19 years
• Pakistan-born Roheez Khan, 39, of Athole Street, Rochdale, was found guilty of a single count of rape against Girl A and jailed for 12 years

I've seen several posts on FB comparing Brand's sentence with that of one of the members of a non-whitte grooming gang who got 2 years. What is omitted, of course, is the context that he was one of three, the others got longer sentences than Brand, and he was a minor at the time. (These and other posts include the false claim that Brand was convicted on 'no evidence'.)

 

[Puppycow]

The funniest part is that he was as leftist as it goes at the time this happened. For Pete's sake, Brand was actually advocating for a revolution in interviews at the time.

Which the conspiracists can spin to prove their point: As long as he was toeing the leftist party line, he could get away with anything: rape, murder, anything at his whim. But the minute he strayed from that, now the things (the crimes) he used to get away with with impunity are brought up to "target" him. Not because of the crimes themselves, but because of his heresy and apostacy.

 

[SpuriusMaximus]

Which the conspiracists can spin to prove their point: As long as he was toeing the leftist party line, he could get away with anything: rape, murder, anything at his whim. But the minute he strayed from that, now the things (the crimes) he used to get away with with impunity are brought up to "target" him. Not because of the crimes themselves, but because of his heresy and apostacy.

Aye, I can confirm that I've seen that exact kind of posts and videos too.

 

[catsmate]

Who thought it was a good idea to put her in the House of Lords?

Sharron Davies HoL MBE
@sharrond62
My heart genuinely breaks for those children repeatedly abused by rape gangs, whilst large sways of our politicians, including those right at the top, look the other way, whilst waxing lyrical about justice being rightly dished out to Russell Brand. We live in such unjust times.

Link

Kemi Badenoch, for services to transphobia.

 

[catsmate]

It's always the ones you most suspect.

David Walliams has been named as the celebrity who tried to block publication of sexual misconduct allegations.

He had asked the High Court to block the publication of the investigation, with his lawyers arguing if the allegations were made public he would likely kill himself.

The court refused the request, saying the risks could be mitigated and that it was not the court's responsibility to protect his wellbeing.

The judgement, covered more in the Free Speech thread, is scathing about the attempt.
The parallels to Brand's use of lawfare are interesting.

 

[catsmate]

It really pisses me off that a few minutes on the internet will show that many "grooming gang" members got over 10 years, even 28 years in one case.

ETA:


These are literally the first two my Google search came back with:

Rhyl grooming gang who were 'predators with no remorse' sentenced

The court heard the men met in a popular coffee house in Rhyl, with the girls approached on the street.

www.bbc.co.uk

"The ringleader of the gang Mustafa Iqbal was jailed for 35 years after being convicted of 21 offences, including four rapes and three of sexual assault involving all three of the girls."​

​

Ringleader of Rochdale grooming gang jailed for 35 years

Two girls were repeatedly raped and assaulted from the age of 13 in the Greater Manchester town.

www.bbc.co.uk

"Rochdale grooming gang ringleader jailed for 35 years"​

​

The convictions and sentences in full were as follows:

• Pakistan-born Mohammed Zahid, 65, of, Station Road, Crumpsall, was convicted of raping Girl A and Girl B, indecency with a child and procuring a child to have sex and was jailed for 35 years
• Mushtaq Ahmed, 67, of Corona Avenue, Oldham, and Kasir Bashir, 50, of Napier Street East, Oldham, who were also born in Pakistan, were convicted of repeated counts of rape and indecency with a child in relation to Girl B and were jailed for 27 and 29 years respectively
• Mohammed Shahzad, 44, of Beswicke Royds Street, Rochdale; Naheem Akram, 49, of Manley Road, Rochdale; Nisar Hussain, 41, of New Field Close, Rochdale, were convicted of repeated counts of rape against Girl A and were jailed for 26, 26 and 19 years
• Pakistan-born Roheez Khan, 39, of Athole Street, Rochdale, was found guilty of a single count of rape against Girl A and jailed for 12 years

It's an article of faith for the rightists, here and in general, that most rapists in the UK are Pakistani and they're never punished, facts notwithstanding.

 

[Puppycow]

He's a white guy with long hair, of course they think he's Jesus!

These followers, I don't know if any of them are familiar with A Clockwork Orange, but I know that Brand himself knows it well.

The protagonist of that story, Alex, a rapist and thug, when he finally had to go to prison converted to Christianity and becomes a sort of "choir boy" for the prison chaplain. The "conversion" of course was for his own convenience. He called it his "angle" if I remember correctly.

In Anthony Burgess's novel A Clockwork Orange and Stanley Kubrick's film adaptation, Alex DeLarge's relationship with Christianity is explored through themes of free will, original sin, and forced morality rather than a genuine spiritual conversion. [1, 2]

Feigned Contrition: Alex claims he wants to "be good" and cries out that he wants his life to be an act of goodness, but this is a manipulative performance to secure his release from prison rather than a true religious awakening. Dr. Brodsky even cynically labels the conditioned Alex a "true Christian" who passively "turns the other cheek," though this behavior is merely the result of physical nausea and psychological conditioning, not faith. [1, 2]

Christ Figures and Imagery

• • The Roman Soldier Daydream: While studying the Bible in prison, Alex vividly fantasizes about himself as a Roman soldier eagerly participating in the scourging, crowning with thorns, and crucifixion of Jesus.
  • Inverted Christ Parallels: Throughout the story, Alex undergoes trials that mirror the Passion of Christ (betrayal by his "apostles" or gang members, public humiliation, and three major post-release beatings), functioning as an inverted or perverted Christ figure who begins in chaos and violence rather than purity. [1, 2, 3, 4]

He is a real-life Alex DeLarge, and people are falling for his act of "contrition".

 

[SpuriusMaximus]

He's a white guy with long hair, of course they think he's Jesus!

Well, that doesn't explain Andrew Tate, though, does it?

 

[P.J. Denyer]

Well, that doesn't explain Andrew Tate, though, does it?

Maybe they think he's Buddha?

 

[SpuriusMaximus]

Maybe they think he's Buddha?

LOL, they might. Only FSM knows what goes through their tiny heads. I mean, the downstairs head they think with

 

[Puppycow]

 

[Andy_Ross]

Baroness Foster DBE #FreeIran
@jfoster2019

Remarkable that @10DowningStreet is commenting on ‘allegations’ concerning a ‘high profile celebrity’ and I have no idea whether the accusations are true or false..

In addition, they had much to say on the conviction on Russell Brand.

I have never been a fan of either and I give no truck to sexual predators and would like to see them all locked up.

However, I don’t recall @downingstreet commenting publicly on the convictions and allegations against the barbaric paedophiles involved in the.

child ‘Rape gang’ criminals..

The same politicians @UKLabour fought tooth and nail & voted against to prevent the Independent Public Inquiry taking place !

Makes you think ..

Link

 

[Nessie]

Brand is now old news. Time to move on to David Walliams, who will now be very nervous, as he will see that multiple women, with complaints about conduct that happened years ago, is enough evidence to convict.

 

[catsmate]

Baroness Foster DBE #FreeIran
@jfoster2019

Remarkable that @10DowningStreet is commenting on ‘allegations’ concerning a ‘high profile celebrity’ and I have no idea whether the accusations are true or false..

In addition, they had much to say on the conviction on Russell Brand.

I have never been a fan of either and I give no truck to sexual predators and would like to see them all locked up.

However, I don’t recall @downingstreet commenting publicly on the convictions and allegations against the barbaric paedophiles involved in the.

child ‘Rape gang’ criminals..

The same politicians @UKLabour fought tooth and nail & voted against to prevent the Independent Public Inquiry taking place !

Makes you think ..

Link

Makes me think there should be an investigation into how much Arlene Foster knew about Jeffrey Donaldson's sexual abuse.