Carrot Flower King
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Russell Brand accused of rape and sexual assault
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Good idea Jim!
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Or possibly the Falkirk Herald?
Mojo
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The Tax Policy Associates blog linked on the previous page quotes one of the judges as saying, "While I quite see the concerns about the breadth of the order, the proper way to deal with those concerns would be to apply to the High Court to amend the scope of the injunction based on changed circumstances." the blog post goes on to say, "That must be correct: as she said, “It is not a matter for this court.” We understand that Ms Goldsmith has indicated she is amenable to the injunction being varied. Presumably Mr Brand will not be, so a court application is required."
I thought at the time that it had such an undercurrent. Now it is the manosphere.How 2000s lad culture helped Russell Brand to hide in plain sight
How 2000s lad culture helped Russell Brand to hide in plain sight
The behaviour that formed the backdrop to Brand's prosecution also helped elevate him, writes the BBC's media editor Katie Razzall.www.bbc.co.uk
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A convicted child sex offender. 7 years for indecent assault and rape against 5 boys aged 14 & 15.
Jonathan King
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"Praise the brave women who came forward".
And how about jail the women who lied and of whom he was found Not Guilty?
Balance media, please, as you write your cheques for interviews.
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Jonathan King
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"Praise the brave women who came forward".
And how about jail the women who lied and of whom he was found Not Guilty?
Balance media, please, as you write your cheques for interviews.
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Helen
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Great idea, that would effectively put a stop to anyone ever coming forward!
And of course there's no evidence that the women lied, only that there was insufficient evidence to convince the jury, unanimously, beyond reasonable doubt.
Just as in the third case against King. He was convicted on two separate occasions, separated by several years, but then third trial was hamstrung by an inept police investigation.
Given how frequently that sort of thing happens, the Scottish, "not proven" verdict seems attractive to me
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Especially if it doesn't count for Double Jeopardy purposes.
That was where I was going
And of course the jury may have thought he was guilty but because the guidance is "reasonable doubt" may have thought the prosecution hadn't reached that.
Rolfe
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The Scottish "not proven" verdict was an acquittal verdict. It was the same in law as "not guilty". It was the long-standing acquittal verdict in Scotland, a case was either "proven" or "not proven". The water was muddied when Scottish courts started to ape English terminology, and we ended up with three verdicts, two of which meant the same thing. The "not proven" option is being abolished because it has come to be regarded as a stain on the character of someone acquitted by that verdict.
If there is credible evidence that a witness committed perjury she should be charged with that crime. However a jury's decision that her evidence doesn't amount to proof beyond reasonable doubt is not evidence of perjury.
Clear evidence that the witness was not in the building on the evening she claimed the rape took place, or indeed any other possible date when it might conceivably have happened, is credible evidence of perjury and in the opinion of a lot of people should lead to criminal charges, but in the corrupt cess-pit which is modern Scottish criminal "justice" this is clearly not going to happen.
Choose your comparison legislature more wisely.
What a strange slant to that story. And yes it is terrible the conditions in our prisons, and that isn't how people should be incarcerated, and if you are one of those that think tough shouldn't have done the crime remember there are a lot of innocent people in a jail that are also put at risk because of the appalling conditions.
Another account by someone who called Brand out and tried to get the accusations she had heard out to journalists but was hindered by the multiple accusers (and some journalists) being intimidated into silence. Brand apparently even sued Suzanne Moore for criticising his prose - which should have been taken into account when he was suing for harassment.
LDE1976
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Whataboutery and unevidenced claims aside, I still remember this utter wanker emerging from prison in 2005 with a beaming smile and arms outstretched, like some kind of returning hero.
****.
Listen to this if you can:
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Andrew Bridgen
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Russell Brand exposes Big Pharma and the elites.
Never forget.
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@ABridgen
Russell Brand exposes Big Pharma and the elites.
Never forget.
Video in link
LDE1976
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As much as Bridgen is an egregious peddler of insanity and misinformation, it wouldn't surprise me if Brand had named his genitalia.