Rush Limbaugh & Pat Robertson Re: Haiti Quake

[MattusMaximus]

It amazes me that Pat Robertson lives in the modern world in a so-called advanced society. The only way I can rationalize what he said with that fact is that he is simply insane.

That, or he's a cynical jerk trying to appeal to the people who hold those insane beliefs. You should see some of the comments on my blog post on this topic (see my sig file).

Rush may have a point not so much about Obama politicizing the Haiti disaster relief, but about the left politicizing it. BO will simply rush over a nice helping of relief and aid to Haity, as he should. But now the AP, left-leaning political commentators, bloggers, and forum posters will draw political comparisons between BO & GB with Haiti and Katrina. He is right about that. But of course he and all the right-wing people are doing the same thing. The country is so divided, that's all anyone does anymore.

Sadly I have to agree with you on this. Of course, part of this is the media attempting to hype up the politics in order to keep us tuning in

 

[leftysergeant]

You know, it's one thing to accuse the president of using the Haiti tragedy to his own political gain. (Which, even if true, would seem to me better than when the alternative -- natural disasters that actually make the President look worse... hint... hint.)

But Rush is going beyond that. He's telling people not to donate to Haitian relief efforts! That's beyond petty partisanship. That's just evil.

The pig man is so eager to see Obama fail that he is willing to urge people not to act like humans in response to human suffering.

God forbid that Obama pull off an operation as massive as the NO response and do it better and cheaper than Shrub did. Might make Republicans look useless in times of war and disaster...come to think of it...

 

[Grizzly Bear]

But Rush is going beyond that. He's telling people not to donate to Haitian relief efforts! That's beyond petty partisanship. That's just evil.

Not as evil as going religiously ◊◊◊◊◊◊ crazy with devil pacts, but I'll say that's a damn stupid statement coming from him. I really could care less if he were correct on that one or not. :\
If it were me, I'd at least save the politics for when it becomes relevant; instead he seems to be throwing it out there randomly...

 

[marksman]

Not as evil as going religiously ◊◊◊◊◊◊ crazy with devil pacts

I'd say it's actually more evil. Rush is telling people not to help people who are in dire need.

Robertson didn't tell people not to donate to Haiti relief funds. Actually, I'd be surprised if Robertson didn't donate some funds to relief efforts. is twisted version of Christianity requires him to condemn victims as sinners of God and then to show Christian charity by reaching out to them because they are sinners damned to Hell.

So, yes, I think Rush is more evil because Rush is exhorting people to withhold charity they would otherwise have freely given.

 

[MaGZ]

Entire schools collapsed on scores of young children because their ancestors may have made a pact with the devil?

Robertson is simply evil.

Is this "pact with the devil" thing a historical fact?

Did Haitians really think they could make a pact with the devil?

 

[MaGZ]

This board is extremely American centric. The amount of discussion about those two pricks who really should be ignored like the scum that they are greatly surpasses discussions about the actual disaster itself, and the efforts the entire world is sending there.

It always has to come back to your schizophrenic Right vs Left mindset.

Just my two cents.

If all Canadians became Americans I'm sure you would feel better about this.

 

[MaGZ]

The pig man is so eager to see Obama fail that he is willing to urge people not to act like humans in response to human suffering.

God forbid that Obama pull off an operation as massive as the NO response and do it better and cheaper than Shrub did. Might make Republicans look useless in times of war and disaster...come to think of it...

The problem is: a lot of Rush's listeners first have to be convinced the Haitian people are human.

 

[dudalb]

The problem is: a lot of Rush's listeners first have to be convinced the Haitian people are human.

Of course in your mind they are Untermenschen.

 

[marksman]

His twisted version of Christianity requires him to condemn victims as sinners of God and then to show Christian charity by reaching out to them because they are sinners damned to Hell.

As I suspected, Robertson is sending his charitable foundation to help out in Haiti.

So as hateful as Robertson's comments are, he's infinitely better than Rush and his exhortation to abandon Haiti in its time of need.

 

[MattusMaximus]

As I suspected, Robertson is sending his charitable foundation to help out in Haiti.

So as hateful as Robertson's comments are, he's infinitely somewhat better than Rush and his exhortation to abandon Haiti in its time of need.

Fixed that for you

I agree. For all of his douchebagginess via his remarks, at least Robertson is doing something to help out.

Part of me wouldn't mind if Limbaugh got hit by a truck right about now

 

[leftysergeant]

The problem is: a lot of Rush's listeners first have to be convinced the Haitian people are human.

Of course they would. If they were not racist, they would probably be out picketting the studios of radio stations that carry the pig man demanding that he be drowned in his swill trough.

I am far from convinced that the fat deaf eunuch blathermeister is human.

 

[PAC]

For those of us who have to live with fundamentalists every day (family is hard to get away from) is is interesting that almost all of them have great respect for Rush and Pat. They beat their chests about their CHRISTIANITY
yet fail to see any problem with the actions of these two. It is enough
to drive us nuts!!!!!!!!!

 

[PAC]

Thank you for listening. It is so difficult to remain civil with them. When we see them this weekend it will be so hard not to bring up the comments of the Rush and Pat boys. However, it does no good. Arguing with them about these two is like punching jello. You get all worked up, slam your fist into the jello and it simply goes back to the shape it had before.

 

[Thunder]

i listend to Rush's full quote, and I have to say..he didn't say anything bad. he is rightly concerned that donations that get into the hands of the Haitian govt. will be abused and misused by the dictators and corrupt politicians. he did NOT say "do not donate to any charity helping out Haiti"

while I hate Rush, and pray daily for his demise, I do not feel the need to lie about my enemy.

 

[Thunder]

The problem is: a lot of Rush's listeners first have to be convinced the Haitian people are human.

a lot of Rush's listeners need to be convinced that similar folks in the USA are human.

 

[Magyar]

i listend to Rush's full quote, and I have to say..he didn't say anything bad. he is rightly concerned that donations that get into the hands of the Haitian govt. will be abused and misused by the dictators and corrupt politicians. he did NOT say "do not donate to any charity helping out Haiti"

while I hate Rush, and pray daily for his demise, I do not feel the need to lie about my enemy.

HONESTLY - I think you're full of ****. Donations are NOT going to the govt of Haiti look at any list of org that are taking donations.


SECOND and most important Rush didn't say - don't donate to the Haitian govt.

He said DON'T donate Period because we already gave in out income tax
No matter how you try to apologize for this it was just a straight up scum bag thing to say. Period and I don't care who said it.

 

[rwguinn]

Thank you for listening. It is so difficult to remain civil with them. When we see them this weekend it will be so hard not to bring up the comments of the Rush and Pat boys. However, it does no good. Arguing with them about these two is like punching jello. You get all worked up, slam your fist into the jello and it simply goes back to the shape it had before.

Ah feel yore pane...
I have the same problem, here...

 

[Grizzly Bear]

Robertson didn't tell people not to donate to Haiti relief funds. Actually, I'd be surprised if Robertson didn't donate some funds to relief efforts. is twisted version of Christianity requires him to condemn victims as sinners of God and then to show Christian charity by reaching out to them because they are sinners damned to Hell.

Actually, in some twisted irony Robertson from what I heard did donate to the relief efforts monetarily. But his ass-hattery is nevertheless inexcusable, treating it like the donation is some troublesome effort.

ETA: Well you beat me to it...

ETA2:

I'd say it's actually more evil. Rush is telling people not to help people who are in dire need.
So, yes, I think Rush is more evil because Rush is exhorting people to withhold charity they would otherwise have freely given.

That's not the issue. He's not saying do not donate... His concern is with the handling of money. Operating from a wrong assumption makes him wrong, not evil. And Brainster noted about his doltery already.

 

[marksman]

he did NOT say "do not donate to any charity helping out Haiti"

Yes, he did. (Well not with the words you invented and put in quotes.) But he did tell people not to give to Haitian relief because the aid won't get to the people who need it and we've already donated to Haitian relief in the form of income tax.

As moronic as Rush's listeners may be, the heartland tens to give disproportionately to charity. By exhorting people not to donate, Rush may be contributing to more suffering in Haiti. I find that monstrous.

I feel this as bad as when Rush exhorted his listeners not to get vaccinated (0:25). I wonder how many of the 16000 people who died in America of H1N1 may have survived had Rush not told people to not get vaccinated.

 

[Grizzly Bear]

I guess that depends on how much you want to nitpick his remarks... but if you had listened to the excerpt in it's entirety the remark that we already provide support through the income tax system stems from his suspicion of why anyone wanting to donate would go to the whithouse.gov website to be directed to the appropriate charity. He does also go on about throwing money at inept governments which can't spend the money we "throw" at them and how charities are already helping, but for all the idiotic assumptions he runs under in that excerpt he does not try to discourage people from offering charities at all.

Caller: My question is why did Obama in the sound bite you played earlier where he's talking about if you want to donate some money you can go to whitehouse.gov and be directed [Rush saying "yeah" in concurrence] - you know to direct you how to do so. Why would, if I wanted to donate money to the Red Cross, why do I need to go to the White House.gov page and look at the propaganda.

Rush: Exactly, exactly. Would you trust that the money's going to go to Haiti?

Caller: No

Rush: But would you trust that you're names going to end up on the mailing list where Obama's people are gonna start asking you for campaign donations for him and other causes.

Caller: Absolutely

Rush: Absolutely right

Caller: That's the point.

Rush: Besides we've already donated to Haiti, it's called the US income tax.

Just like you are wrong about him telling others not to take the H1N1 vaccine... as his remarks clearly show:

Limbaugh:

"...and now you've got Catherine Sibelius saying you MUST take the pig flue vaccine! You must take it! Screw you Ms. Sibelius I am not going to take it precisely because you're telling me I must..."

That doesn't mean I haven't lost respect for him in this case, but I'm also not going to invent his words just for the sake of playing gotcha. He has an opinion he's publicizing... and for all intents and purposes people either agree or disagree them, but he's not telling anybody in those sound clips what to do.