Running for local office...

[Bjorn]

Re: To Tricky:

Indeed, IF my entire circle of friends & family HAD showed up to vote I would have doubled that count.

Oh .....

I think my biggest problem is being taken seriously by the blue-hairs.

Or maybe by friends and family?

 

[King of the Americas]

To RandFan:

What can I say, I am a habitual troll baiter...

I leave myself open for personal attacks, all the time.

I have found that if you can get you opponet yo attack you personally you can in kind get them to ignore the points you made, allowing them often times to go unchallenged.

While the personal attackER thinks they have done something superior, I as the attackIE and those onlookers may think differently.

In any case, thank you for the well wishes.

 

[King of the Americas]

To Bjorn:

In my LAST mayoral run, it seemed that I had a difficult time be taken seriously by 97% of the voters, period.

THIS time, my friends and family have all been more active, BUT that I have still especially having difficulty attracting the bluehairs to my cause.

Although I think you point is a good one...

 

[RandFan]

Re: To RandFan:

While the personal attackER thinks they have done something superior, I as the attackIE and those onlookers may think differently.

See The Ninth Configuration after which listen to Pink Floyd's Dark Side of the moon paying particular attention to the flip side.

In any case, thank you for the well wishes.

You are welcome KOA.

 

[Tricky]

Re: To Bjorn:

In my LAST mayoral run, it seemed that I had a difficult time be taken seriously by 97% of the voters, period.

THIS time, my friends and family have all been more active, BUT that I have still especially having difficulty attracting the bluehairs to my cause.

Although I think you point is a good one...

What if you win? Does that mean you won't run for re-election?

And what makes a person a "bluehair"? Age? Political ideology?

 

[King of the Americas]

To Tricky:

I plan to maintain the office of Mayor, until I have affected the changes I so desire, then I'll run for Governor...

"Bluehairs" are those over the age of 65.

 

[shanek]

They chose New Hampshire, in part because of our "Live Free Or Die" motto. It was not a good choice. They have not been welcomed with open arms. Our last governor liked them, and that is part of why he was not re-elected. I am sure such people exist, but I have not met one NH resident who was in favor of the Free State plan.

That's running contrary to reports I've heard. The few people who have jumped the gun and gone ahead and moved there (the official move hasn't begun yet) have reported that they're met by at least a dozen of their neighbors, welcoming them and offering to help them move in. But maybe that's just how friendly and neighborly NH residents are.

In any case, none of them have reported any opposition or hostility. And some of them have already had electoral success in local school board elections last month (they won't be able to run in statewide elections for 2 years for state representative and 7 years for state senator). They've campaigned their positions on ballot referenda, with success. In another thread, we discussed the persecution of a 96-year-old woman and her family on the basis of imaginary zoning violations; that issue was brought to light by free-staters and resulted in the town's Chief Selectman losing his bid for reelection. If NH residents hate the free-staters, they've got a funny way of showing it.

And I think the fact that NH has no state income or sales tax was probably a bigger consideration than the motto.

 

[Mercutio]

That's running contrary to reports I've heard.

And these reports are from Free Staters? Or from where?

 

[shanek]

And these reports are from Free Staters? Or from where?

They're from free staters, so take with the necessary salt grains. I'd think their political achievements should be easily verifiable, though.

 

[varwoche]

Jocko, I wonder if KOA has shared his views on the holocaust with his jewish constituency?

 

[King of the Americas]

To varwoche:

Muenster is a GERMAN Catholic town, firstly.

Secondly, the sentiments you are addressing were NOT my own, but rather stances held by a neo-nazi who appeared in a 'movie'.

Please take some care as to not assign questionable idealogical stances to me or my capaign.

Thank you.

 

[shanek]

Jocko, I wonder if KOA has shared his views on the holocaust with his jewish constituency?

Do you think you could narrow that down just a teeny bit more?

 

[Jocko]

Jocko, I wonder if KOA has shared his views on the holocaust with his jewish constituency?

That's nothing. You should ask him about global trade and UFOs sometime.

 

[Jocko]

Re: To Bjorn:

...BUT that I have still especially having difficulty attracting the bluehairs to my cause.

Maybe a good first step is to stop referring to your "voters" by potentially insulting nicknames. Besides, they have something I think you'll forever lack: maturity.

So I'll ask again... when is this charade... er, election scheduled to take place? I need to put down some bets in Vegas.

 

[Jocko]

Re: To varwoche:

Muenster is a GERMAN Catholic town, firstly.

Secondly, the sentiments you are addressing were NOT my own, but rather stances held by a neo-nazi who appeared in a 'movie'.

Please take some care as to not assign questionable idealogical stances to me or my capaign.

Thank you.

Questionable? That's a riot. How about clearing the air on what "stances" you actually hold? How about this platform of yours, which you've failed to elaborate on in even the most basic ways?

 

[King of the Americas]

To Jocko:

I pasted my 'public announcement' over on page 1.

While it is not completely comprehensive, it says 3 things that I will intigrate into the manner of our local government.

1.) If elected I will find and idenfity those short term budget cuts that have caused most of our long-term management problems.

2.) If elected I will create an atmosphere where economic development is expected rather than scoffed at.

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3.) And if elected, I promise to pose as a unifying factor toward all of our board controlled entities, seeing to it that each one works more closely with or in conjunction with the other.

All of these leading to my ultimate goal of influencing by example those communities around Muenster. Not only do I want Muenster be adopt those better ways that will lead to better days for its citizens, but I want us to become THE example of the way local government can truly serve its population.

I have also detailed some issue specific statements upon several of the projects or problems currently facing our town. In fact, I have developed stances on almost ALL of the 'items' that presently face Muenster's cizitens, and I'd be happy to address any specific questions you may have.

 

[Jocko]

Re: To Jocko:

I pasted my 'public announcement' over on page 1.

While it is not completely comprehensive, it says 3 things that I will intigrate into the manner of our local government.

Yes, I saw this on page one. I also saw it four years ago, or something so utterly similar that there is no meaningful distinction. I'll humor you here, though.

1.) If elected I will find and idenfity those short term budget cuts that have caused most of our long-term management problems.

This is code for increasing spending and anyone capable of punching a ballot will know that. But that aside, let's look closer:

Find and identify budget cuts. I presume you mean to reverse them? Or is finding them good enough?

What are the management problems you speak of? Surely managers will perform as long as they're paid, right? What do you mean by this?

I can only deduce that you claim here that more money must be spent on civil servants. This is a guaranteed loser.

BTW, why "if elected"? Surely you can identify those problems from your living room, can't you? Budgets are public record if you bother to get off your duff and get a copy.

2.) If elected I will create an atmosphere where economic development is expected rather than scoffed at.

Hopelessly vague. Why not say "good jobs at good wages" or "pro-family" or "for the children"? These are all trite, meaningless platitudes and they reek of bullsh*t.

What would you do to foster economic growth? Or are you more concerned about the way it's perceived, without actually doing something to bring it about?

Don't tell me, let me guess: your ridiculously xenophobic "self-sufficiency" plan, right?

3.) And if elected, I promise to pose as a unifying factor toward all of our board controlled entities, seeing to it that each one works more closely with or in conjunction with the other.

What does this mean? You've already established that you think:

1. Mismanagement is a real problem, so managers are a problem, and

2. The current people in power - i.e., managers and the like - scoff at economic development.

So why would anyone want to work with someone like you, who has just insulted them twice?

All of these leading to my ultimate goal of influencing by example those communities around Muenster. Not only do I want Muenster be adopt those better ways that will lead to better days for its citizens...

Had to get that loser line in there, didn't you? You'll influence people, but not in the way you've deluded yourself into believing.

...but I want us to become THE example of the way local government can truly serve its population.

How about just keeping the roads patched and such? No one is going to vote for you in hopes of becoming a paragon of your silly little utopia.

I have also detailed some issue specific statements upon several of the projects or problems currently facing our town. In fact, I have developed stances on almost ALL of the 'items' that presently face Muenster's cizitens, and I'd be happy to address any specific questions you may have.

List them, and I'll let you know what issues are probably important.

 

[varwoche]

Jocko, you're not being fair. Inane platitudes and inflated egos is what politics is all about -- KOA can't be faulted for playing the game. All he needs is a handler able to string a few words into a sentence and he should do just fine.

 

[shanek]

Re: To Jocko:

1.) If elected I will find and idenfity those short term budget cuts that have caused most of our long-term management problems.

How about finding them now and using those specifics in your campaign?

2.) If elected I will create an atmosphere where economic development is expected rather than scoffed at.

Great! How?

3.) And if elected, I promise to pose as a unifying factor toward all of our board controlled entities, seeing to it that each one works more closely with or in conjunction with the other.

Again, how?

People are used to campaign promises. They want to know if you can deliver.

 

[Jocko]

Jocko, you're not being fair. Inane platitudes and inflated egos is what politics is all about -- KOA can't be faulted for playing the game. All he needs is a handler able to string a few words into a sentence and he should do just fine.

Maybe that flies when you're debating John Kerry, but I think the "bluehairs" of Texas expect a little morre depth. And probably a little less arrogance.

Seriously, when it comes to playing the game, KOA is the type who insists that you "king" him even though you're playing chess. Or Monopoly, for that matter.

My money is on a worse performance this time than last. 18 votes with twice that many friends & relatives in town? Some people might take that kind of hint. I'm not saying he shouldn't run. I'm saying he ought to pull his head out of his sphincter and see why he keeps losing so badly. As long as he keeps insisting the world is foolish and he's brilliant, he's going to remain the sideshow attraction he's always been.

Don't blame me for enjoying myself while watching it happen.