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Heck, I've been so busy in the past 24 hours I didn't get near the PayPal account - and the money is already found!

Never mind, it's still needed, especially if this is just a loan at present.

Rolfe.
 
That paypal account belongs to Elaine, who has been quite gracious in making sure we get every cent donated. I was trying not to impose on her again, as she has been trying to distance herself from JREF and the forum for personal reasons which I completely understand. She and I are friends, so we still email. Using the Paypal account is easier, though, so I'll let her know there may be more donations made. I've tried to set up our own account, but it keeps telling me I already have an account, but my usual password doesn't work. I'm not very good at this stuff.

If it helps, I can take paypal donations also, at [email protected], and I'll pass them to you. I have US currency setup as well as UK, so there's no conversion fees if US people send money this way as far as I can tell. I can do the same for Canadian or Australian if necessary.

I'm sorry I commented above without waiting for you to say if that was still ok, and I hope I haven't caused any problem.
 
It has been 3 weeks since I counted how many people posted in this thread (see post 648). Then it was 314. Now it is 355 an increase of 41.

The top 10 contributors to this thread (in alphabetical order) are
Beeg Seestor
borealys
Chicken Pot Pie
Darat
ExMinister
Gravy
LibraryLady
Rasmus
rjh01
TiaH


I disqualified one person from the list for making too many posts.

Edit.
I have had a look at other threads to see how this compares. The only thread I could find was Moderated: Psychic Samurai applies for MDC...apparently... that even came close. That one has 100 members making posts. Most other longer threads in all sub forums have been running for years.



This was the last time I can find I counted how many people posted in this thread. I have just done it again.
There have been 382 people post in total, 238 posted just once.

The top 11 posters are (in alphabetical order)
amb
arthwollipot
Beeg Seestor
borealys
chillzero
ExMinister
HawaiiBigSis
LibraryLady
rjh01
Roadtoad
RSL's better half

I am going to ask that this thread be put in the forum spotlight.
 
Hello Susan,

in the other thread you wrote:

I asked him for a rough estimate, and he said it would cost around $2200. That's the bad news. The good news is that we can rent it instead, for a monthly fee, and if we decide to purchase it later, 75% of our rental payments will go towards the total cost. I would be interested in some opinions on this.

Sounds to me as if you were better off getting a loan from a bank, pay the ramp in one payment from that money, and pay back the loan in monthly payments.

Because otherwise it simply means an interest rate of 25%, and i think that a regular bank is lower than that.

Unless, of course, the renting includes free service/repair for the whole time until fully paid, then it might be worth it, if you expect lot's of repairs and service to happen.

Just my two cents...

Greetings,

Chris
 
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Hello Susan,

in the other thread you wrote:



Sounds to me as if you were better off getting a loan from a bank, pay the ramp in one payment from that money, and pay back the loan in monthly payments.

Because otherwise it simply means an interest rate of 25%, and i think that a regular bank is lower than that.

Unless, of course, the renting includes free service/repair for the whole time until fully paid, then it might be worth it, if you expect lot's of repairs and service to happen.

Just my two cents...

Greetings,

Chris

Your math is wrong. For simplicity assume 12 payments of roughly $266 where $200 (75%) goes towards a $2,400 ramp. That's almost $800 in "interest", which is a 56% annual interest rate. You might think it's a 33% interest rate (800/2400), but that would only be true if you made one lump sum payment. In a "real" loan the ratio of interest to principal changes with each payment. In Rent to Own it remains constant.

A 25% loan would have a payment of $228 for 12 months resulting in $337 in total interest.

One advantage of the Rent to Own deal is if she thinks she only needs the ramp for a short period of time but there's some risk that she might need it longer. Keeping with our numbers, suppose she only needs it for three months and goes the Rent to Own route. She will be out of pocket for about $800. They take the ramp back.

With a "real" loan she's on the hook for the full $2,737 in principal and interest no matter what. She will end up with a ramp at her home. If she sells it for more than $1,950, she will come out ahead by taking out our hypothetical 25% loan. If she sells it for less, then Rent to Own was a better deal under those circumstances.

Suppose after three months she realizes that she needs it for much longer. She can still take out a loan. She only needs to borrow $1,800 because the company is counting $600 of the $800 she already paid as principal payment.

If she takes out a 9 month loan her payment will again be $228. She'll pay $259 in loan interest plus the $200 in "lost rent" for an effective rate of about 43%. Once again she will own the ramp and may be able to sell it at some point.

Conclusion: If you think you're going to need the ramp for more than a few months, taking out a loan and buying is better financially. Without knowing the specifics of the monthly rental rate, loan interest rates, and resale values of ramps, it's not possible to give an exact number of months.
 
You're both right. We should pay for it in full. I am getting a loan. Thanks for pointing out the financial aspects. Gees I love Forumites. Best group of folks I've ever met/not met!
 
... I am going to ask that this thread be put in the forum spotlight.


Great call.

I get more out of this thread than I can say: RSL's wonderful post earlier this month, RSL's better half's hope and courage and humor throughout... it's always a better* blobru coming from this thread than there was going in. :)

*(Or sappier, I'm not sure.)
 
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It looks as though the Hoveround chair is as agile in real life as it is in the commercials!

Oh, you betcha! He can swivel in place, which I think will help in the kitchen, he can do a donut on a dime (well, slight exaggeration), but the best part is that at medium speed we can take a "walk" together. The combination of Hoveround chair and new ramps should give him a new sense of freedom and independence which he sorely needs!
 
That'll help things along a lot. Does it make getting in and out of the van easier?

I'm hoping that tomorrow we can get the t-bar installed on his chair. Then, the front passenger seat will be removed, he'll roll up the ramp, turn and roll over the device already in the floor and be locked into place. I won't have to strap anything on him but the seatbelt. All that tying down I've been having to do will be unnecessary.
 
I'm hoping that tomorrow we can get the t-bar installed on his chair. Then, the front passenger seat will be removed, he'll roll up the ramp, turn and roll over the device already in the floor and be locked into place. I won't have to strap anything on him but the seatbelt. All that tying down I've been having to do will be unnecessary.
Oh, that'll be nice. I bet you're both looking forward to that! :D
 
All that tying down I've been having to do will be unnecessary.

I thought you said Robert liked being tied down! :D

Just kidding, Sis! After watching all you had to go through to make sure he is secure in the van I am very glad to hear that will be a thing of the past for you.
 
I'm glad to see there's an ongoing thread with information on this, because it's one of the reasons I returned to this forum!

I'm a big fan of StopSylvia.com and I'm concerned about Mr. Lancaster. I'd like it, Mrs. Lancaster, if you could tell me what current estimation there may be on when he's going to be well enough to resume his anti-Browne work. I hope you don't fall under the impression that I don't care about him as a human being and am just urgent for updates for a site I like. I assume you that's not true. I had brief exchanges with him when I was on this board before and he seemed like a nice guy to me. That site needs to continue, for the good of the masses, and he needs to recover.

I've recently sent you an e-mail, by the way, Mrs. Lancaster. I don't know if you're the one who gets it because I had only stopsylvia.com's public e-mail address to use. Did you get it? Have you had time? I just want to know. I'm [email protected] (and yes I don't mind that being visible here on the board).

Moved from moderated thread RSLancastr - Progress and news.
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