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Roy attacked by tiger

Getting back on subject ofr a minute...

Does anyone have anymore updates? I hate to sound morbid, but I have a reason for wanting to know.

I am wanting to make sure he survives. There is a radio host down here that I heard (while passing the channel on scan and could not get back to the channel, nor do I know who it was) he actually said on the air that this happened becasue god was punishing him for being gay. (I would have put this response in the religion forum, but there was nothing about this incident in that forum.)

I want to somehow let Roy know that regardless of the unfeeling people in this world, most of us are pulling for him.
 
Moe, I don't know if you have access to him or anyone close to him, but please let anyone who may need to know that I will be passing that address out on my internet radio show. I don't have many listeners, but I'm fairly sure they pass along their hopes on this.
 
Thanks for the address Moe. I'm sure that Roy doesn't blame the tiger! I only have regular cats. I had one cat that was my baby. I bottle fed her as a kitten. She followed me everywhere. She slept next to my head at night. She would understand what I said, and I understood what her various cries meant. We were so close. And then one day a dog showed up. She ran to me, and I was picking her up to take her in, and she went balistic on me! Stitches and all (the dog wasn't even being agressive). I was like, "what the fcuk?" (no not the clothing store....) This wasn't a baby, it was a WILD ANIMAL! It wasn't her fault. But, I never quite looked at her the same way again....
 
Hi guys,
Here's an article that was in the Las Vegas Review Journal this morning:
http://www.reviewjournal.com/lvrj_home/2003/Oct-05-Sun-2003/news/22305515.html

Roy's condition is still very hush-hush. It's very bad.
The people around him know what's up, and I've heard from them, and I'm sure you can guess what's up from the secrecy of it and from the information they're willing to realease.
Penn did the Today show at 5 this morning. Siegfried asked him to be the voice about a lot of this, because no one closely involved with the show is able to bring themself to talk about it.
It's very sad. I don't know how this will affect Vegas, but I know that to me, the town won't be the same if that S&R marquee isn't up there on the Strip.
 
Okay guys, if you have something like you'd like to have reach Roy now, you can send it the the UMC medical center on Charleston in Las Vegas.
I guess they're talking about it more now. He had a stroke during surgerey, they had to resusitate him, and if he survives, he'll have brain and spinal cord damage. You can sense how heavy it is from that.
 
You know, Sigfried and Roy were fun to make fun of and all, for their over-the-top glam-cheezieness...

But I'm realizing now that they have my respect. They're showmen, in the best tradition. Bless them for dedicating themselves to the enjoyment of others.

Here's to Roy, my thoughts are with you. Pull through for us, buddy. People believe in you.
 
I want to say something important. It might not be directly related to this topic, but it's a very serious issue that all of us as citizens in democratic states need to earnestly ponder in private and thoughtfully discuss in public. If we outlaw tigers, then only outlaws will have tigers.
 
Ed said:
What actually happened?
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Roy was parading a tiger around on a leash during a show. The tiger refused to sit on command and then grabbed Roy's arm in it's mouth.

Roy panicked and started beating the tigers head with his microphone. The tiger let go of the arm, chomped Roy on the neck and dragged him off stage.
 
kittynh said:
Thanks for the address Moe. I'm sure that Roy doesn't blame the tiger! I only have regular cats. I had one cat that was my baby. I bottle fed her as a kitten. She followed me everywhere. She slept next to my head at night. She would understand what I said, and I understood what her various cries meant. We were so close. And then one day a dog showed up. She ran to me, and I was picking her up to take her in, and she went balistic on me! Stitches and all (the dog wasn't even being agressive). I was like, "what the fcuk?" (no not the clothing store....) This wasn't a baby, it was a WILD ANIMAL! It wasn't her fault. But, I never quite looked at her the same way again....
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Surgeon General's Warning:
Rapping your pussy sharply on the snout with a microphone may educe an analogous riposte.
 
There are issues regarding using wild animals for entertainment that aren't being addressed. And this is probably not the rational time to do it.
There is a 59 year old critically injured. My hopes are with him and his loved ones. Its flipping amazing that, as ill advised it is for anyone to deal with wild animals in any context, that this was someone who is of an age that is usually considering retirement. He and Seigfried, who is considerably older are incredibly courageous (naive?) individuals.
My opinion is that these acts, apart from the animal welfare aspect, are only a draw, like auto racing, etc., if there is the occasional disaster. They are only fascinating because they are dangerous. If there isn't the occasional disaster, then they aren't really dangerous. Like racing fans the draw is the occasional crash. Would be no fun if they went around the track at safe speeds.
To me, its not entertainment. Its a blood sport, and the audience is waiting for blood.
I like comedies.
I don't like Quentin Tarantino (among others) movies for the same reason. I don't find violence entertaining.

Doesn't diminish my hopes that this (59 year old) man survives.
 
Cain said:
I want to say something important. It might not be directly related to this topic, but it's a very serious issue that all of us as citizens in democratic states need to earnestly ponder in private and thoughtfully discuss in public. If we outlaw tigers, then only outlaws will have tigers.
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How true. And this shows that Tigers are more of a threat to their owners than anyone else.

It has now been proven that maulings are directly related to the availability of Tigers.
 
peptoabysmal said:


Surgeon General's Warning:
Rapping your pussy sharply on the snout with a microphone may educe an analogous riposte.
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:eek:
 
Maybe I shouldn't say this, but from what I've read, its seems like the doctors are using "extraordinary measures" as their protocol, no matter what, and that, like many doctors elsewhere, are going to refuse to let someone...go....if there's even the slightest chance of "saving" him, no matter what condition he'll be left in.

That's what I get from what we've been told by everyone so far. That Roy had to be resusitated during surgery, had a stroke during surgery, etc. etc. is really sad. I'm sorry to mention it, but reading this, I can't help wondering if anyone ever asks what the medical goal here really is at this point, or if everyone is just hoping "for a miracle", no matter what. It just doesn't sound good.

In 35 years its certainly pretty amazing that he's never been attacked while performing before, especially when you think of how quickly this happened (I'm surprised he would hit the tiger on the nose with the microphone. That doesn't sound like a "trainers signal"; is it? Maybe he just got careless for a moment, and forgot that, no matter what, a tiger will always be a wild animal).

I guess it would be easy to forget, because of the close relationship they have (apparently he even sleeps with some of them which much be quite a trip, but is also kind of mind boggling...)
 
From E! Online:
On stage alone, Horn introduced the sold-out audience of 1,500 to Montecore the tiger. As is his shtick, Horn announced that Montecore was making his stage debut. In reality, the big cat was a veteran of the show, and was, in the words of a source in the Review-Journal, "a favorite of most of the handlers."

But on Friday, Horn and Montecore experienced a nearly fatal failure to communicate.

"Roy tugged the tiger to get him into the middle of the stage, but the tiger didn't like that so much and came up and bumped him with his head," audience member Jonathan Cohen told the New York Post.

Horn responded by tapping Montecore with his microphone. Montecore responded by biting Horn in the arm. Horn tried to fight off the animal with his mic.

"Then the tiger just went for him," Cohen said in the Post. "He bit him in the neck and literally picked him up and dragged him [off the stage] as if he were a wild animal attacking his prey."

Away from confused audience members' sight lines, crew members sprayed the tiger with fire extinguishers. About five minutes after the attack, Fischbacher, 64, made it clear that what had transpired was not show business as usual. He announced the performance was canceled, and uttered "God bless Roy," before leaving the stage, per the Times.

Magic-busters Penn and Teller, current house act at Rio, were among the more than 100 Vegas performers who streamed into University Medical Center as word spread on the Strip of the attack.

"He's like an astronaut," Penn Gillette said of Horn in the Post. "He makes it look so easy. You forget it's life or death."

Horn, who has endured his share of scrapes that come with doing live shows, never before had experienced an on-stage injury at the paws or jaws of one of his babied animals.

"Roy is fearless...[But] he's always cognizant of the fact that anything can occur," Yuman said in the Review-Journal.

Horn was said to be breathing on a ventilator, but conscious, if sedated, and able to communicate with his doctors.

Montecore has been sent to his lair located behind the Secret Garden of Siegfried & Roy exhibit at the Mirage, the Review-Journal said.
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In defense of NASCAR and tigers. I would go see the show fully expecting that NOTHING would ever happen and that any "danger" element was just "pretend". Remember, Roy told the audience that this was this tigers first time in the show, but the tiger had been doing this for 6 years - he was trying to make it sound dangerous. Me, I'd like to see the animals, and would think it sad they had to throw in the "danger" stuff, as everyone knows these animals were raised by them from babies and would never hurt them. Wrong on my part, but still, this was the first mauling!

As for Nascar, the people I know who watch it love the personalities (it's rather popular with women). Tony Stewart, I've only watched bits of NASCAR, never a whole race, but I know from my friend how he's the "Sexy, bad boy" of the sport. Another woman I know loves Mark Martin as he's a work out health food nut, and probably one of the most skilled drivers on the track. For a certain type of woman (not me, sorry) it's the guys. Now the fact that they do a dangerous sport where they could get killed, it just makes them more romantic - yick! However I dated a guy who did an extreme sport, and yeah, he was cool because he pushed the edge. What wasn't sexy was all that road rash, ick.
 
Randi just posted his thoughts on Roy in the Roy thread in Conjorer's Corner.
 
Ed said:



How true. And this shows that Tigers are more of a threat to their owners than anyone else.

It has now been proven that maulings are directly related to the availability of Tigers.
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Indeed. I'd only remind others that I'm talking about tigers and not Tigers. Of course, I suppose we could always point out that tigers don't kill people -- their claws and teeth do.
 
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