Rosie, Left Wing Partisan, Loses Bully Pulpit!

[Katana]

This thread actually turned out much better than I had hoped.

I just hope it doesn't get moved.

I don't either.

You might just start another, and two active Rosie threads is more than enough for this forum.

Never cared for Rosie. Suspect I never will.

 

[BPSCG]

I have never watched that show. What are her "extreme left wing views and antics"?

Here you go.

 

[ImaginalDisc]

Here you go.

Those aren't "extreme left wing views" those are the statements of a person divorced from reality. Someone who claims that there is a worldwide gay plot to recruit young people into a life of disco and drugs, or who claims that illegal immigrants come to the United States to impoverish this country, is just as divorced from reality and isn't part of the American political discussion or even the right-wing.

 

[thaiboxerken]

Those aren't "extreme left wing views" those are the statements of a person divorced from reality.

I agree, but mainly because it's not even close to a main-stream liberal position.

Someone who claims that there is a worldwide gay plot to recruit young people into a life of disco and drugs, or who claims that illegal immigrants come to the United States to impoverish this country, are just as divorced from reality and aren't part of the American political discussion or even the right-wing.

While it's not reality, the right-wing often tries to paint this reality and use it as a platform. That's the real difference. The extreme-right-wing positions are real political platforms that people vote on. Rosie's "extremism" has no political backing at all.

 

[Charlie Monoxide]

In a chaos, non-linear way, this news story should have no effect on my life ...

Charlie (Rosie who?) Monoxide

 

[RandFan]

Those aren't "extreme left wing views" those are the statements of a person divorced from reality. Someone who claims that there is a worldwide gay plot to recruit young people into a life of disco and drugs, or who claims that illegal immigrants come to the United States to impoverish this country, are just as divorced from reality and aren't part of the American political discussion or even the right-wing.

? Some of the posters that lean to the left are going to be sad to hear this. I guess no more discussions of Pat Robertson, Jerry Fallwell, the religious right, etc.

Damn.

 

[crackers]

Other than the fact that she seems to believe in some conspiracy theories, I don't see what is "extreme" about her views. She thinks Bush is incompetent and she is against the Iraq war...that doesn't sound very extreme to me. She is against homophobia and against gun violence - both of those are left-wing views, but I wouldn't call them "extreme."

 

[BPSCG]

Other than the fact that she seems to believe in some conspiracy theories, I don't see what is "extreme" about her views.

Well, you'll just have to discuss that with thaiboxerken and ID, I guess. They seem to think her views are so extreme they go off the chart; you seem to think they're moderate. Why don't you guys talk it out and get back to the rest of us when you've decided, m'kay?

 

[RandFan]

Well, you'll just have to discuss that with thaiboxerken and ID, I guess. They seem to think her views are so extreme they go off the chart; you seem to think they're moderate. Why don't you guys talk it out and get back to the rest of us when you've decided, m'kay?

 

[ImaginalDisc]

? Some of the posters that lean to the left are going to be sad to hear this. I guess no more discussions of Pat Robertson, Jerry Fallwell, the religious right, etc.

Damn.

When some idiot television preacher blames, say, the destruction of New Orleans on the presence of homosexuals, I'd hardly consider that indicative of the majority of the right-wing in America.

 

[mijopaalmc]

You know, I didn't include enough context with my last post. I was critiquing the idea that the media has a liberal bias or at least that the bias is borne out by the personalities who get access to the air waves. If there were a liberal bias in the media and if Rosie's comments actually represented liberal bias, it seems that keeping her on "The View" would serve the liberal media well by perpetuating its bias. Firing her, though, would remove one of their most vocal proponent from the limelight and make it marginally harder to perpetuate their bias.

I also finding it strange that the same people who said that Sharpton should not be boycotting Imus draw their sources on Rosie's "extreme left-wing views" from a site called Boycott Liberalism. Not only does it seem to contradict their previous statements about not boycotting people for what they say, but it also seems that the site isn't the best source for unbiased information on liberalism in the media, since it is obvious that the site's contributors disagree with liberalism and would probably label anything they disagreed with "liberalism" regardless of whether it was remotely liberal or not.

 

[Gord_in_Toronto]

That will teach her to speak out against THE SECRET!!

 

[billydkid]

I have never watched that show. What are her "extreme left wing views and antics"?

All I know is she makes me want to puke.

 

[billydkid]

Emphasis mine. Note the passive voice. Not "I will miss you," or "We will miss you." "You will be missed." Who will miss her, Barbara?

Politicians' Rule 1: When you don't want to be associated with something, use the passive voice.

That ranks up there with "Mistakes were made." Nobody ever actually makes the mistakes, but somehow they get made.

 

[hgc]

When some idiot television preacher blames, say, the destruction of New Orleans on the presence of homosexuals, I'd hardly consider that indicative of the majority of the right-wing in America.

And when that television preacher has his own law school with 150 graduates planted like pod-people in the Department of Justice and throughout the federal bureaucracy, that causes a whole different level of concern for me than Rosie O'Donnell.

 

[ponderingturtle]

When some idiot television preacher blames, say, the destruction of New Orleans on the presence of homosexuals, I'd hardly consider that indicative of the majority of the right-wing in America.

That depends on how large the individuals following is. There is a difference between say Westboro Baptist chuch saying it and someone who actualy has a large following.

 

[NoZed Avenger]

Touché

Wouldn't that be "Toupé" ?

 

[BPSCG]

And when that television preacher has his own law school with 150 graduates planted like pod-people in the Department of Justice

First de-humanize your enemies...

 

[Tailgater]

You know, I didn't include enough context with my last post. I was critiquing the idea that the media has a liberal bias or at least that the bias is borne out by the personalities who get access to the air waves. If there were a liberal bias in the media and if Rosie's comments actually represented liberal bias, it seems that keeping her on "The View" would serve the liberal media well by perpetuating its bias. Firing her, though, would remove one of their most vocal proponent from the limelight and make it marginally harder to perpetuate their bias.

Rule #2 of liberal media club-Be subtle.

 

[Tailgater]

It would be like mentioning how the extreme right are all hipocrites by pointing out Rush's drug abuse and Haggards homosexual behavior and drug abuse.

At least you would be consistent with some other posters here.