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Rosemary Altea

I think Randi did a terrific job.
In part three, when asked about taking the million dollar challenge Rosemary says something like:
"I'm going to tell you something James, this program is not about you. This program is about people being duped, its not about you."
I'm thinking, wait a second, it’s about people being bamboozled by frauds like YOU Rosemary.
Then 2 seconds later Randi says
"It's about people being duped by people like you” (as he points his finger at her)
I literally jumped up out of my chair and cheered. Even Larry was laughing.

Yes or no Rosemary, we’re still waiting.
 
The Jan 26, 2007 transcript from CNN:

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0701/26/lkl.01.html

Towards the bottom:
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L. KING: We welcome James Randi, investigator and demystifier of paranormal and pseudoscientific claims and founders of the James Randi Educational Foundation, the Web site for which is randi.org. He is also the best-selling author and worked as a professional magician once under the name the Amazing Randi. He is in Ft. Lauderdale.

In Venice, Florida is Rosemary Altea, described on her Web site, rosemaryaltea.com, as an international spiritual medium. She is the best-selling author of "The Eagle and the Rose."
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Both were in Florida; too bad a test wasn't set up.
 
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It annoys me that Altea starts laughing like a hyena when Randi says, of the testing protocol, something like "it depends on what you're claiming" -- not only does she completely interrupt his answer, but she seems to be thereby saying "see? I TOLD you this Challenge is bull****!"

Whereas of COURSE the test would always be different. Different claims, different tests. I'm in Japan so it's not hard for me to call in, but if she's on that dumb show again, would someone please call in and ask, "you laughed, as if there can be only one kind of test for psychic abilities. Could you please outline, briefly, the steps of a test that would demonstrate either telekenesis and the ability to speak with the dead?" Or something like that.

Boy, that lady really ticked me off. A previous poster said it right -- she came off as "blig and condescending". Not just to Larry and Randi, but to the audience as well.

Someone else mentioned Randi pointing out that her analogy between psychic and doctors was fallacious, because doctors are subject to a objective, verifiable set of standards whereas psychics are subject to no standards whatsoever, but I didn't hear it. Randi hardly got the chance to say anything at all. Was he actually able to say that? < grumble >
 
I thought another aspect of her trying to become the psychic queen was her repeated insistence that, of course, you have to spend at least an hour with the person being read. She's trying to make SB's 20-minute sessions look bad and thereby make SB look like one of those frauds she keeps mentioning.
 
SezMe said:
I thought another aspect of her trying to become the psychic queen was her repeated insistence that, of course, you have to spend at least an hour with the person being read. She's trying to make SB's 20-minute sessions look bad and thereby make SB look like one of those frauds she keeps mentioning.
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AND she'd be able to charge even more money, since the call would take longer. Ka-ching!
 
At the end of segment 3, Larry says "both these things are easily provable, one with a DNA(???), one with a test".

Did I misunderstand him, or WTF does he mean by DNA? The only context I can perceive is that Altea is claiming Randi doesn't have the money, and Randi is pushing her to take the challenge, and those are the two things that LK says are "easily provable".
 
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He's referring to an earlier segment about the father of Anna Nicole Smith's baby.
 
Hi- which BS episode is this Rosemary on? I have the DVDs but never paid enough attention to who was claiming what. Anyone that can tell me season/episode would save me at least the pain of pulling out discs and watching Penn and Teller one more time... [this is meant to be funny, as if I didn't enjoy watching them. The real thing is that I don't have time to do so now, it would be a fond wish to scan through hours of the show]
 
NEVER MIND. Answered my own question by looking at Google. 1st episode, "Talking to the Dead." That lady. Holy smokes. The one where Penn swears a lot :-) and explains how it's easier not to get sued if you use the language as he demonstrated. Now I *have* to watch the Larry King, good work everyone!
 
Moochie said:
I thought Mr. Randy came across as forceful and forthright, almost the complete opposite of Ms. Altea.

I think he managed to get a chuckle out of some of the off-camera staff, too.

Thank you very much for posting that, Lisa. It is appreciated.

M.
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Proofread this, Moochie! :D

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Larry committed the mortal sin of an interviewer by letting his guest waste time.
He may, of course, had reason to do so.
Altea did her best to waste time but came across as pleasant and friendly.
Unlike Sylvia Browne.
Randi came across as an angry old man - albeit for good reason.

Most sceptics seemed to enjoy this, but I think the general public's perception would be the opposite.
I think he needs to remain firm but calm.

Only my opinion, of course.
 
I think that the context allowed ffor some degree of anger and outrage. remember, this wasn't merely a spot about pyschic frauds, but was mounted in the context of the lies told to the parents of a missing child. the lies could have dashed their hopes and wound down the investigation; the lies could have diverted attention to the wrong locales; the lies could have also have given succour to the kidnapper.

A strong sense of anger at the thoughtlessness, rapacity and recklessness of Browne is well-justified in this case.
 
Good morning BPScooter.
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Hi- which BS episode is this Rosemary on? I have the DVDs but never paid enough attention to who was claiming what. Anyone that can tell me season/episode would save me at least the pain of pulling out discs and watching Penn and Teller one more time... [this is meant to be funny, as if I didn't enjoy watching them. The real thing is that I don't have time to do so now, it would be a fond wish to scan through hours of the show]
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I could be wrong, but I believe it is on Season 1, Disk 1, First episode.
JPK
 
Darat said:
You must be brainwashed because Larry King said that the hair length he [the kidnapper] was caught with was what Larry King would describe as long.
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Larry said long compared to his (Larry's) own hair.
 
NewMusic_Jenn said:
She still takes advantage of people by taking money from those desperate for help.
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And that has no relevance whatsoever on the claim of her supposedly not addressing the million dollar challenge offer.

There's never been any proof of supernatural abilities - if there were they wouldn't be supernatural.
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Brilliant! You've managed to render the million dollar challenge null and void. So why should anyone (outside of the organized skeptical movement) consider it for more than 2 seconds if it can be dismissed so easily?

If I tell you I can do something then refuse to ever prove it for a guaranteed million dollars then I'm either nuts or I can't really do what I say I can.
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Either or fallacy. You apparently have a strong, strong need to disbelieve people when they say they aren't interested or don't consider something very worthy (probaby going by the track record of the skeptical movement).

The fact that she has previously stated her viewpoint doesn’t mean she shouldn’t continue to be challenged on bogus claims!
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Randi himself said to avoid wheel-spinning, yet you want him to do that very thing? They'd just go back and forth

Yes or No?
I've already told you my reasons why your challenge is garbage.
Yes or No?
I've already told you my reasons why your challenge is garbage.
Yes or No?
I've already told you my reasons why your challenge is garbage.
Yes or No?
I've already told you my reasons why your challenge is garbage.
(repeat)
 
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