Ronald Reagan dies

charley_bigtime said:


I'm afraid I'm not - but I'm not surprised you think that way.

http://www.websters-online-dictionary.org/definition/Xhosa-english/ta/tata.html

http://www.websters-online-dictionary.org/definition/english/TA/TA-TA.html

http://thesaurus.reference.com/search?q=ta-ta
Adieu, adieus, adieux, bye-bye, cheerio, goodbye, leave-taking, parting, salutation, sendoff, so long, ta-ta, toodles, valediction

Or perhaps even 'boob', according to which set of references you tend to use, though you seem unable to query a simple dictionary search engine successfully.
 
evildave said:
Nope, you keep saying 'prat', and according to the dictionary, that's a piece of human anatomy. Obviously you have a communication problem.

Prat is an english slang word for idiot, fool, someone who is gormless etc. Why are you making an issue of this I really am puzzled......?????
 
demon said:

No Surrender...yeah right

Demon, if you honestly think there any Loyalists west of The Shannon as Shane puts it, I am afraid you are barking up the wrong tree here. Your more likely to find The Pope in the Shankhill.......
 
Shaun from Scotland said:


Prat is an english slang word for idiot, fool, someone who is gormless etc. Why are you making an issue of this I really am puzzled......?????

And you didn't follow through the dictionary link, did you? The etymology comes from a reference to someone's 'ass', and you folks don't even realise it. Priceless. Like getting cussed out by a kid who thinks 'damn' is something that holds water.
 
evildave said:


And you didn't follow through the dictionary link, did you? The etymology comes from a reference to someone's 'ass', and you folks don't even realise it. Priceless. Like getting cussed out by a kid who thinks 'damn' is something that holds water.

Fair enough.

I think Prat means idiot.

You think Prat means arse.

Either way - they are both relevant to the original post in which the word was used.

You lose.

Ta-ta!
 
evildave said:


And you didn't follow through the dictionary link, did you? The etymology comes from a reference to someone's 'ass', and you folks don't even realise it. Priceless. Like getting cussed out by a kid who thinks 'damn' is something that holds water.

What relevance is the etymology of the word when it is perfectly clear what it means in the context Charlie is using it?
 
Shaun from Scotland said:


What relevance is the etymology of the word when it is perfectly clear what it means in the context Charlie is using it?

Don't you see - he needs to hang on to it because he was annihilated everywhere else in our discussion.
 
Shaun from Scotland said:


What relevance is the etymology of the word when it is perfectly clear what it means in the context Charlie is using it?

Yes, it was perfectly clear: He's called me an ass several times now, and continues to do it. He resorted to name-calling and has stuck to it, possibly because this is the only debating tactic he ever learned.

It's difficult to say from this small sample.
 
evildave said:


Yes, it was perfectly clear: He's called me an ass several times now, and continues to do it. He resorted to name-calling and has stuck to it, possibly because this is the only debating tactic he ever learned.

It's difficult to say from this small sample.

How has he called you an ass when the words modern definition in English slang is "fool"?

If a words etymology is somehow more relevant than its current usage seeing as the "Scots", derived from "Scotus", itself taken from "Scoti" is the name of an ancient tribe from Ireland, should I change my name to "Shaun from prehistoric Ireland"?
 
Shaun from Scotland:
"Demon, if you honestly think there any Loyalists west of The Shannon as Shane puts it, I am afraid you are barking up the wrong tree here. Your more likely to find The Pope in the Shankhill......."

He caricatures my position, I`m merely repaying the sentiment.
 
charley_bigtime said:


Don't you see - he needs to hang on to it because he was annihilated everywhere else in our discussion.

Annihilated? Delusional as well.

You have however succeeded in derailing Tricky's little Reagan Memorial Topic.

God, the source of all knowledge, should never have been expelled from our children's classrooms.
-- Ronald Reagan, address, National Religious Broadcasters, Washington, D.C., January, 1984, quoted from Menendez and Doerr, The Great Quotations on Religious Freedom

Well, it’s a theory, it is a scientific theory only, and it has in recent years been challenged in the world of science and is not yet believed in the scientific community to be as infallible as it once was believed. But if it was going to be taught in the schools, then I think that also the biblical theory of creation, which is not a theory, but the biblical story of creation, should also be taught.
-- Ronald Reagan, during a 1980 press conference as U.S. presidential candidate, having been asked if he thought the theory of evolution should be taught in the public schools, in Science (1980) 209:1214), quoted from Tim Berra, Evolution and the Myth of Creationism, Chapter 5 ††

We may be the generation that sees Armageddon.
-- Ronald Reagan, in a 1980 interview with criminal televangelist Jim Bakker, quoted from "A Brief History of the Apocalypse"

"My name is Ronald Reagan. What's yours?" –introducing himself after delivering a prep school commencement address. The individual responded, "I'm your son, Mike," to which Reagan replied, "Oh, I didn't recognize you."

"Facts are stupid things." –at the 1988 Republican National Convention, attempting to quote John Adams, who said, "Facts are stubborn things"

"I am not worried about the deficit. It is big enough to take care of itself."
 
Shaun from Scotland said:


How has he called you an ass when the words modern definition in English slang is "fool"?

(Sigh.) One step at a time. What does calling someone an 'ass' in your own curious dialect of English 'slang' mean?

If a words etymology is somehow more relevant than its current usage seeing as the "Scots", derived from Scotus, is the name of an ancient tribe from Ireland, should I change my name to "Shaun from prehistoric Ireland"?

Only if you want to.
 
evildave said:


Annihilated? Delusional as well.


Me? Delusional? Level of debating skills?

Ok - show me how undelusional you are and reveal the level of your dabating skills by answering these (hitherto unanswered and carefully avoided) questions...

Can you clarify why you jumped to so many false conclusions regarding my 'alleged' standpoints regarding Dead American soldiers/the "little guy" and how on earth you make the correlation between not speaking ill of the dead on the day they die with "quietening political dissent" when I mentioned none of those subjects in my posts either before or after.

It's not me that's delusional is it?

Yes - annihilated was the right word to use.
 
evildave said:


(Sigh.) One step at a time. What does calling someone an 'ass' in your own curious dialect of English 'slang' mean?




It means absolutely nothing in "my curious dialect", other than showing you watch too much American TV. We use the word arse or erse.

Now show me the next step which explains how you can be so obtuse about a perfectly straight forward statement........
 
evildave said:


(Sigh.) One step at a time. What does calling someone an 'ass' in your own curious dialect of English 'slang' mean?


Means they are a Donkey usually.

Btw. When you Americans call someone an ass - what does that usually mean - that they are the buttocks? (Your reference.)

:dl:
 
A few more quotes & stories from here...
http://www.angelfire.com/co/COMMONSENSE/reagan.html

"In England, if a criminal carried a gun, even though he didn't use it, he was tried for first-degree murder and hung if he was found guilty," Ronald Reagan claimed in April 1982. When informed that the story was "just not true," White House spokesman Larry Speakes said, "Well, it's a good story, though. It made the point, didn't it?" Reagan repeated the story again on March 21, 1986 during an interview with The New York Times.

In November 1983, Reagan told visiting Israeli Prime Minister Yitzhak Shamir that he had served as a photographer in a U.S. Army unit assigned to film Nazi death camps. He repeated the story to Simon Wiesenthal the following February. Reagan never visited or filmed a concentration camp; he spent World War II in Hollywood, making training films with the First Motion Picture Unit of the Army Air Corps.

"A tree's a tree. How many more do you need to look at?"
--Ronald Reagan (Governor of California), quoted in the Sacramento Bee, opposing expansion of Redwood National Park, March 3, 1966

"I don't believe a tree is a tree and if you've seen one you've seen them all."
--Governor Ronald Reagan, in the Sacramento Bee, September 14, 1966

"All the waste in a year from a nuclear power plant can be stored under a desk."
--Ronald Reagan (Republican candidate for president), quoted in the Burlington (Vermont) Free Press, February 15, 1980. (In reality, the average nuclear reactor generates 30 tons of radioactive waste per year.)

"I have flown twice over Mount St. Helens. I'm not a scientist and I don't know the figures, but I have a suspicion that one little mountain out there, in these last several months, has probably released more sulfur dioxide into the atmosphere than has been released in the last ten years of automobile driving or things of that kind."
--Ronald Reagan, quoted in Time magazine, October 20, 1980. (According to scientists, Mount St. Helens emitted about 2,000 tons of sulfur dioxide per day at its peak activity, compared with 81,000 tons per day produced by cars.)

"Growing and decaying vegetation in this land are responsible for 93 percent of the oxides of nitrogen."
--Ronald Reagan, quoted in the Los Angeles Times, October 9, 1980. (According to Dr. Michael Oppenheimer of the Environmental Defense Fund, industrial sources are responsible for at least 65 percent and possibly as much as 90 percent of the oxides of nitrogen in the U.S.)

"Approximately 80 percent of our air pollution stems from hydrocarbons released by vegetation. So let's not go overboard in setting and enforcing tough emission standards for man-made sources."
--Ronald Reagan, quoted in Sierra, September 10, 1980

"I've said it before and I'll say it again. The U.S. Geological Survey has told me that the proven potential for oil in Alaska alone is greater than the proven reserves in Saudi Arabia."
--Ronald Reagan, quoted in the Detroit Free Press, March 23, 1980. (According to the USGS, the Saudi reserves of 165.5 billion barrels are 17 times the proven reserves--9.2 billion barrels--in Alaska.)

"Why should we subsidize intellectual curiosity?"
--Ronald Reagan, campaign speech, 1980

"Trains are not any more energy efficient than the average automobile, with both getting about 48 passenger miles to the gallon."
--Ronald Reagan, quoted in the Chicago Tribune, May 10, 1980. (The U.S. Department of Transportation calculates that a 14-car train traveling at 80 miles per hour gets 400 passenger miles to the gallon. A 1980 auto carrying an average of 2.2 people gets 42.6 passenger miles to the gallon.)

"It's silly talking about how many years we will have to spend in the jungles of Vietnam when we could pave the whole country and put parking stripes on it and still be home by Christmas."
--Ronald Reagan (candidate for Governor of California), interviewed in the Fresno Bee, October 10, 1965

"I have a feeling that we are doing better in the war [in Vietnam] than the people have been told."
--Ronald Reagan, in the Los Angeles Times, October 16, 1967

"...the moral equal of our Founding Fathers."
--President Reagan, describing the Nicaraguan contras, March 1, 1985

"Fascism was really the basis for the New Deal."
--Ronald Reagan, quoted in Time, May 17, 1976

"I know all the bad things that happened in that war. I was in uniform four years myself."
--President Reagan, in an interview with foreign journalists, April 19, 1985. ("In costume" is more like it. Reagan spent World War II making Army training films at Hal Roach Studios in Hollywood.)

"They've done away with those committees. That shows the success of what the Soviets were able to do in this country."
--Ronald Reagan, quoted in the Washington Times, September 30, 1987. (Reagan longs for the days of Sen. Joseph McCarthy and the HCUA witch hunts.)

"We think there is a parallel between federal involvement in education and the decline in profit over recent years."
--President Reagan, quoted in USA Today, April 26, 1983

"What we have found in this country, and maybe we're more aware of it now, is one problem that we've had, even in the best of times, and that is the people who are sleeping on the grates, the homeless who are homeless, you might say, by choice."
--President Reagan, defending himself against charges of callousness on Good Morning America, January 31, 1984

"I favor the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and it must be enforced at the point of a bayonet, if necessary."
--Ronald Reagan, Los Angeles Times, October 20, 1965

"I would have voted against the Civil Rights Act of 1964."
--Ronald Reagan, Los Angeles Times, June 17, 1966

"If there has to be a bloodbath then let's get it over with."
--Ronald Reagan (Governor of California), quoted in the San Francisco Chronicle, May 15, 1969. (Reagan reveals how he intends to deal with student protesters at the University of California, Berkeley.)

"Today a newcomer to the state is automatically eligible for our many aid programs the moment he crosses the border."
--Ronald Reagan, in a speech announcing his candidacy for Governor, January 3, 1966. (In fact, immigrants to California had to wait five years before becoming eligible for benefits. Reagan acknowledged his error, but nine months later said exactly the same thing.)

"...a faceless mass, waiting for handouts."
--Ronald Reagan, 1965. (Description of Medicaid recipients.)

"Unemployment insurance is a pre-paid vacation for freeloaders."
--California Governor Ronald Reagan, in the Sacramento Bee, April 28, 1966

"We were told four years ago that 17 million people went to bed hungry every night. Well, that was probably true. They were all on a diet."
--Ronald Reagan, TV speech, October 27, 1964

"But I also happen to be someone who believes in tithing--the giving of a tenth [to charity]."
--Ronald Reagan, from The Weekly Compilation of Presidential Documents, February 8, 1982. (He may believe in tithing, but he doesn't practice it. Reagan's total charitable giving of $5,965 did not approach 10% of total income. It was more like 1.4%.)

"[Not] until now has there ever been a time in which so many of the prophecies are coming together. There have been times in the past when people thought the end of the world was coming, and so forth, but never anything like this."
--President Reagan revealing a disturbing view about the "coming of Armageddon," December 6, 1983

"History shows that when the taxes of a nation approach about 20 percent of the people's income, there begins to be a lack of respect for government.... When it reaches 25 percent, there comes an increase in lawlessness."
--Ronald Reagan, in Time, April 14, 1980. (History shows no such thing. Income tax rates in Europe have traditionally been far higher than U.S. rates, while European crime rates have been much lower.)

"Because Vietnam was not a declared war, the veterans are not even eligible for the G. I. Bill of Rights with respect to education or anything."
--Ronald Reagan, in Newsweek, April 21, 1980. (Wrong again.)

"Politics is just like show business. You have a hell of an opening, coast for a while, and then have a hell of a close."
--Ronald Reagan to aide Stuart Spencer, 1966
 
Shaun from Scotland said:


It means absolutely nothing in "my curious dialect", other than showing you watch too much American TV. We use the word arse or erse.

Now show me the next step which explains how you can be so obtuse about a perfectly straight forward statement........

I told you Shaun - it's all he's got left.
;)
 
A few heart-warming quotes about Reagan....

"I never knew anything above Cs."
--President Reagan, in a moment of truthfulness, describes his academic record to Barbara Walters, November 27, 1981

"They told stories about how inattentive and inept the President was.... They said he wouldn't come to work--all he wanted to do was to watch movies and television at the residence."
--Jim Cannon (an aide to Howard Baker) reporting what Reagan's underlings told him, Landslide: The Unmaking of the President: 1984-88

"This President is treated by both the press and foreign leaders as if he were a child.... It is major news when he honors a political or economic discussion with a germane remark and not an anecdote about his Hollywood days."
--Columnist Richard Cohen

"What planet is he living on?"
--President Mitterand of France poses this question about Reagan to Canadian Prime Minister Trudeau.

"During Mr. Reagan's trip to Europe...members of the traveling press corps watched him doze off so many times--during speeches by French President Francois Mitterrand and Italian President Alessandro Pertini, as well as during a one-on-one audience with the Pope--that they privately christened the trip 'The Big Sleep.'"
--Mark Hertsgaard, On Bended Knee: The Press and the Reagan Presidency

"He demonstrated for all to see how far you can go in this life with a smile, a shoeshine and the nerve to put your own spin on the facts."
--David Nyhan, Boston Globe columnist

"an amiable dunce"
--Clark Clifford (former Defense Secretary)

"Poor dear, there's nothing between his ears."

--British Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher



"...like reinventing the wheel."

--Larry Speakes (Reagan's former press secretary) describing what it was like preparing the President for a press conference, Speaking Out: The Reagan Presidency from Inside the White House



"The task of watering the arid desert between Reagan's ears is a challenging one for his aides."

--Columnist David Broder



"He has the ability to make statements that are so far outside the parameters of logic that they leave you speechless"
--Patti Davis (formerly Patricia Ann Reagan), talking about her father, The Way I See It



"This loathing for government, this eagerness to prove that any program to aid the disadvantaged is nothing but a boondoggle and a money gobbler, leads him to contrive statistics and stories with unmatched vigor."
--Mark Green, Reagan's Reign of Error



"President Reagan doesn't always check the facts before he makes statements, and the press accepts this as kind of amusing."
--former president Jimmy Carter, March 6, 1984

"His errors glide past unchallenged. At one point...he alleged that almost half the population gets a free meal from the government each day. No one told him he was crazy. The general message of the American press is that, yes, while it is perfectly true that the emperor has no clothes, nudity is actually very acceptable this year."
--Simon Hoggart, in The Observer (London), 1986
 
TillEulenspiegel said:
When President Reagan was shot a friend of mine said, "I hope he dies". I promptly hit him in the back of the head. He looked at me quizzically and asked," what the hell you do that for, you feel the same way about him as I do?". I told him Don't confuse the man with the office, our President has been shot.

Ronald Reagan has impacted the world as few ever have, so regardless of personal feelings for the man, I have a sense of history and passing.

Well said.

I was ill with liberalism at the time Reagan was in office, but I also remembered being shocked at the assasination attempt.
 

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