Romney, Obama, Rasmussen

uke2se said:
Why?
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Because the crowing about the election being over and done turned into a narrative about how bad the pollsters were, then how bad the pollster compilers were, then to how the state polls still show an edge...
 
Neally said:
Because the crowing about the election being over and done turned into a narrative about how bad the pollsters were, then how bad the pollster compilers were, then to how the state polls still show an edge...
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I thought it was the Republicans that were crowing about how the polls were "skewed".
 
Neally said:
The hand wringing and gnashing of teeth is most entertaining.:D
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There's no hand-wringing. I'm still confident that Obama will win comfortably. The popular vote is not the important metric; the electoral map has been and still is very favorable to Obama. I was merely commenting on the sad fact that Romney will still get a much larger share of the popular vote than a terrible, disingenuous candidate like him should get.
 
MattusMaximus said:
Prediction: in one week (from today), it'll be Obama at +2 to +3 over Romney in the national poll average at RCP.
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I'm not a betting person so I'll decline to take you up on your offer. But I'll tell you how it might be a good bet. If Biden lays an egg on Thursday it'll be two drubbings in a row and there might not be come back road if that happens.
 
The main reason I want Obama to win is that Romney wins Neally and his cohorts will spending 24 hours a day preparing crow sandwiches and I wouldn't want that to happen to our conservative brethren. :)
 
SezMe said:
I'm not a betting person so I'll decline to take you up on your offer. But I'll tell you how it might be a good bet. If Biden lays an egg on Thursday it'll be two drubbings in a row and there might not be come back road if that happens.
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The difference is that people expect Biden to lay an egg.
 
SezMe said:
I'm not a betting person so I'll decline to take you up on your offer. But I'll tell you how it might be a good bet. If Biden lays an egg on Thursday it'll be two drubbings in a row and there might not be come back road if that happens.
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I find it more interesting that none of our resident conservatives are yet willing to take up my bet.

Which explains why President Obama is still beating Romney by 2-to-1 on the prediction markets. It's one thing to say who you want to win, quite another to lay down your own money on it.
 
BenBurch said:
I'm sorry you are going to lose again. You could join our side and win occasionally.
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LOL! Yeah, it's been so long since the GOP won anything... like, 2010 is the most recent big victory. Presidential elections? Since 1968: Republicans 7, Democrats 4. Come to think of it, occasionally sounds about right.
 
Brainster said:
LOL! Yeah, it's been so long since the GOP won anything... like, 2010 is the most recent big victory. Presidential elections? Since 1968: Republicans 7, Democrats 4. Come to think of it, occasionally sounds about right.
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I've seen the future. The GOP demographic is vanishing. If you don't win NOW, and do something to cement power, you never will have the opportunity again.
 
Brainster said:
LOL! Yeah, it's been so long since the GOP won anything... like, 2010 is the most recent big victory. Presidential elections? Since 1968: Republicans 7, Democrats 4. Come to think of it, occasionally sounds about right.
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BenBurch said:
I've seen the future. The GOP demographic is vanishing. If you don't win NOW, and do something to cement power, you never will have the opportunity again.
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Yeah, those who are easily swayed by religious nonsense and anti-science are dying by the thousands daily. The younger generations don't hate gay people or science. FWIW: The GOP of course can capture the younger generations (fiscally conservative principles are quite viable if not to mention critical to the national debate). If the GOP doesn't stop pandering to the religious right including the xenophobes and homophobes it will lose big in coming elections.

Ben is right, if you don't get this one the GOP is very likely to suffer defeat for awhile.
 
RandFan said:
Ben is right, if you don't get this one the GOP is very likely to suffer defeat for awhile.
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Completely disagree. They should lose this one.... America will continue to decline (no fault of the President)... and then people will want change again.
 
RandFan said:
Yeah, those who are easily swayed by religious nonsense and anti-science are dying by the thousands daily. The younger generations don't hate gay people or science. FWIW: The GOP of course can capture the younger generations (fiscally conservative principles are quite viable if not to mention critical to the national debate). If the GOP doesn't stop pandering to the religious right including the xenophobes and homophobes it will lose big in coming elections.

Ben is right, if you don't get this one the GOP is very likely to suffer defeat for awhile.
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The structural issues with the Electoral College I referred to means that though GOP power is close to absolute in some places, in many others it is being progressively diluted such that an electoral win is becoming very difficult for them.

Yes, if you have the collapse of a candidate like we saw with George McGovern, they will still be able to sometimes win for a while, but any chance of more than that is gone.

It will also show up in the Senate and House races eventually as well.

Unless they change. And they will be forced to or the GOP will become a third party to something else (probably the Greens.)
 
uke2se said:
I thought it was the Republicans that were crowing about how the polls were "skewed".
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That's the ironic part. They indeed complained about that. With the recent shift in the polls, now the left is doing the same damned thing.

Caper said:
Completely disagree. They should lose this one.... America will continue to decline (no fault of the President)... and then people will want change again.
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After BO was elected, all the talk was about how the GOP was dead. Kinda like when Nixon left office. The pendulum swings back and forth. We'll see a GOP president in this or the next election cycle. Balance of power will shift back and forth in the Congress also. People get tired of one party and switch to another. People that think otherwise are deluded. Parties will pander and adapt anyway the can to capture the votes.
 
Neally said:
The pendulum swings back and forth. We'll see a GOP president in this or the next election cycle. Balance of power will shift back and forth in the Congress also. People get tired of one party and switch to another. People that think otherwise are deluded. Parties will pander and adapt anyway the can to capture the votes.
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