Roger Waters promotes 9/11 conspiracy theories...

[Vixen]

She can also see through buildings, but that's more of a superpower.

Is there any particular reason you keep spreading your malicious lie? Do you get a kick out of it? Let me know what motivates you.

 

[Vixen]

Don’t forget that Vixen is also a one in a thousand intellect, a scientist, an author and an accomplished amateur photographer. I’m sure she’s accomplished in many many other fields of human endeavour.

She is truly a genuine polymath.

I never said I was 'an accomplished amateur photographer'. Please explain.

 

[Vixen]

Was this in your job as a low-grade member of staff at a wine merchant's, or in your job as a low-grade member of staff at an insolvency agency, or in your job as a middle-management accountant?

Any particular reason for your spiteful and malicious comment? (And wholly untrue, needless to say.)

 

[Mojo]

I never said I was 'an accomplished amateur photographer'. Please explain.

The moon's surface is actually very bright so simply taking a camera designed for earthly parameters - depth of field, focal point, contrast, etc., - is going to be extremely tricky on the moon, especially with thick gloves, limited head movement, resulting in limited field of vision - seems rather optimistic in 1969. Who remembers compact cameras? Awful! Absolutely awful. At least with single lens reflex (SLR) photography, one had some control over the quality but then ... problems with film...developing...keeping slides and negatives in good condition. It's not hard to see why Allen was curious about the Apollo photography. Hardly makes him a scoundrel.

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Jun 13, 2026

You do realise that we can still see what you have posted in the thread, don't you?

I never said I was a professional photographer. I was a keen hobbyist, contrary to Foster Zygote's obvious assumption only macho guys knew anything about the specifics.

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[Mojo]

Is there any particular reason you keep spreading your malicious lie?

It was your claim, not GlennB's.

 

[Vixen]

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Post in thread 'Apollo 11 Moon Landing Revisited: Hoax ~vs~ Debunk'

Jun 13, 2026

You do realise that we can still see what you have posted in the thread, don't you?

I never said I was a professional photographer. I was a keen hobbyist, contrary to Foster Zygote's obvious assumption only macho guys knew anything about the specifics.

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Er, being an amateur photographer is hardly 'an accomplished amateur photographer', implying accolades and public recognition. That I was an amateur photographer is a simple neutral statement of fact and not bragging as implied by Jesse Cutler.

 

[Vixen]

It was your claim, not GlennB's.

I have never claimed to see through walls. And yes, I witnessed the Downing Street bombings. Tough titties if you don't like it. I note you don't take the p!ss out of the other two individuals who were also there. So maybe it is a case of certain guys enjoying upsetting women, as seems to be a popular sport on social media.

 

[LondonJohn]

Any particular reason for your spiteful and malicious comment? (And wholly untrue, needless to say.)

Not spiteful or malicious at all. I was merely wondering which of your low and middling jobs had afforded you the opportunity to write and present arguments to very senior judges. Well?

 

[Vixen]

Not spiteful or malicious at all. I was merely wondering which of your low and middling jobs had afforded you the opportunity to write and present arguments to very senior judges. Well?

Oh, please. Chief Bottle Washer is an extremely important job.

BTW the cleaning lady is just as much a high-grade person as anyone else before you start your ludicrous categorising of people as being 'low-grade'.

 

[LondonJohn]

Oh, please. Chief Bottle Washer is an extremely important job.

BTW the cleaning lady is just as much a high-grade person as anyone else before you start your ludicrous categorising of people as being 'low-grade'.

Evasion duly noted. And let me know when the cleaning lady is permitted to make legal arguments in front of very senior judges.

 

[Vixen]

Just to keep score here...

Roger Waters thinks the WTC was brought down by controlled demolition, and that Israel (re: JEWS) did it. He participated in a panel in NYC which claims Israel was behind 9-11. At no point were facts involved.

This thread has devolved into a inquest by a British national regarding the death of his brother, who was killed when WTC collapsed.

The only things they have in common are hubris, prejudice, and a refusal to accept the body of evidence that Al Qaeda hijacked four commercial jetliners and crashed them into three targets, and a field in PA.

In the case of Waters, 9-11 fits into his antisemitic world view as the very first 9-11 CT came from a French moron in 2005, who claimed Mossad was behind the attacks. 9-11 Truth and A&ETruth both have had an undercurrent of antisemitism running throughout most of their claims. In normal people land this is a red flag, but for Waters it just feeds his ego-based hatred of Jews.

In the case of this inquest, it is a waste of time, money, and effort. We know who attacked the WTC, and we know why the buildings fell. The inquest will change nothing, nor will it illuminate anything new. In this case it is not about the truth, it's about needing to blame someone else other than the guilty parties for the loss of his brother.

Bottom line: Both men are wrong, and are wasting time and resources to feed their own egos.

I am still not sure how Roger Waters is 'antisemitic'. I know David Gilmour's wife says he is but you have to bear in mind her parents were one of those who arrived on the kinder transport (a system during WWII in which the UK allowed entry of Jewish children escaping from the Nazis)*. Unsurprisingly she is strongly Zionist, which is neither good nor bad. But what do you mean by 'antisemitic' because it seems to be a term that is losing its meaning, like the word 'woke'. It has become a term of insult, rather like, 'twit' or 'idiot'. So, if one abhors the crimes of Jeffrey Epstein, for example, does that make you 'antisemitic' being as is claimed he was likely a spy for Israel (given his numerous passports)?

Why is it 'antisemitic' for Campbell backed by Waters to want to understand how his brother died?


*There is an excellent exhibition in Camden Town at the Jewish Museum on this topic, if it is still there.

ETA: Just looked it up and alas, it had to close due to lack of funds.

 

[Vixen]

Evasion duly noted. And let me know when the cleaning lady is permitted to make legal arguments in front of very senior judges.

Start a thread on that topic if you are genuinely interested.

 

[theprestige]

Is there any particular reason you keep spreading your malicious lie? Do you get a kick out of it? Let me know what motivates you.

I can't speak for Glenn, but what motivates me is malice.

Within the ambit of the MA, I think your theses, arguments, and appeals are consistently and intentionally offered in bad faith and a kind of antagonistic ignorance. I think of all the works on this forum, they are the most deserving not just of ridicule, but of spiteful ridicule.

And so, again within the ambit of the MA, and in the immortal words of Herman Melville, "from hell’s heart I stab at thee; for hate’s sake I spit my last breath at thee." Or, in the words of GlennB, "[you] can also see through buildings, but that's more of a superpower."

HTH. HAND!

 

[Axxman300]

I am still not sure how Roger Waters is 'antisemitic'.

But what do you mean by 'antisemitic' because it seems to be a term that is losing its meaning, like the word 'woke'. It has become a term of insult, rather like, 'twit' or 'idiot'.

I am of the firm belief that antisemites require a beating. Waters claims he's not antisemitic, but then ran onstage images of the star of David with $ signs, which is antisemitic. It feeds his anti-Israeli stance. Where was his work supporting the Irish in Belfast during the troubles? You know, the same theme, similar oppression, similar terrorism, similar counter-terror responses. Where was Roger? When the Yazidis and Kurds were being massacred (actual genocide), where was Roger? When the Serbs were murdering Muslims in Croatia and Kosovo, where was Roger?

Why is Roger cool with mass murder by foriegn governments unless Israel does it?

How is this a mystery?

So, if one abhors the crimes of Jeffrey Epstein, for example, does that make you 'antisemitic' being as is claimed he was likely a spy for Israel (given his numerous passports)?

Until we have proof he was a spy for Israel, it kind of is antisemitic. It feeds into the "World Jewish Conspiracy" nonsense. That Epstein was a Jew has nothing to do with Israel. He's an American from New York.

Why is it 'antisemitic' for Campbell backed by Waters to want to understand how his brother died?

If he's backed by Waters then he is a fellow antisemite.

He is blinded by hatred. His brother's death is a simple matter he has chosen to hide behind to advance a politcal agenda (like every other conspiracy nut-job).

 

[Mojo]

Er, being an amateur photographer is hardly 'an accomplished amateur photographer', implying accolades and public recognition.

No, "accomplished" just means being reasonably good, or highly competent, at doing something, no accolades or public recognition necessary.

That I was an amateur photographer is a simple neutral statement of fact and not bragging as implied by Jesse Cutler.

You were implying expertise in photography.

I'm perfectly prepared to accept that you weren't any good at it, though.

 

[Vixen]

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I am of the firm belief that antisemites require a beating. Waters claims he's not antisemitic, but then ran onstage images of the star of David with $ signs, which is antisemitic. It feeds his anti-Israeli stance. Where was his work supporting the Irish in Belfast during the troubles? You know, the same theme, similar oppression, similar terrorism, similar counter-terror responses. Where was Roger? When the Yazidis and Kurds were being massacred (actual genocide), where was Roger? When the Serbs were murdering Muslims in Croatia and Kosovo, where was Roger?

Why is Roger cool with mass murder by foriegn governments unless Israel does it?

How is this a mystery?


Until we have proof he was a spy for Israel, it kind of is antisemitic. It feeds into the "World Jewish Conspiracy" nonsense. That Epstein was a Jew has nothing to do with Israel. He's an American from New York.


If he's backed by Waters then he is a fellow antisemite.

He is blinded by hatred. His brother's death is a simple matter he has chosen to hide behind to advance a politcal agenda (like every other conspiracy nut-job).

Yes, Polly Sansome is David Gilmour's wife, as I was referring to. Bear in mind, there is bitter ill-feeling between Gilmour and Waters. (Understandably, as Waters shafted the Pink Floyd brand, just as he did with Barrett.)

Surely, as an American, it's no cost to you if Campbell gets his new inquest in England? The plus side, means, his 9/11 theories could be put to bed once and for all.

What is the downside?

 

[Vixen]

No, "accomplished" just means being reasonably good, or highly competent, at doing something, no accolades or public recognition necessary.

You were implying expertise in photography.

I'm perfectly prepared to accept that you weren't any good at it, though.

As good as any camera club amateur. Bear in mind, the context was people asking me what did I know about night photography and shutter speed (pre-digital). It was not braggadocio as Jesse Custer claims, it was within the context of the discussion and purely factual; neither good nor bad.

 

[SuperMurrio]

As good as any camera club amateur. Bear in mind, the context was people asking me what did I know about night photography and shutter speed (pre-digital). It was not braggadocio as Jesse Custer claims, it was within the context of the discussion and purely factual; neither good nor bad.

'Within the context of the discussion', you were being asked to estimate the combination of aperture, shutter speed and ISO/ASA required to capture stars in the night sky, and being asked to compare that to the combination of aperture, shutter speed and ISO/ASA required to capture a daylight scene. But you were unable do that simple task 'as good as any camera club amateur', in fact you weren't able to do it at all.

 

[Vixen]

'Within the context of the discussion', you were being asked to estimate the combination of aperture, shutter speed and ISO/ASA required to capture stars in the night sky, and being asked to compare that to the combination of aperture, shutter speed and ISO/ASA required to capture a daylight scene. But you were unable do that simple task 'as good as any camera club amateur', in fact you weren't able to do it at all.

Not many camera club afficionados have to worry about albedo zero-one-one.

 

[Foster Zygote]

As good as any camera club amateur.

No, you're not. Even a camera club amateur would have been able to correctly answer the sorts of simple questions that were put to you. A camera club amateur would have immediately known that the dynamic range between stars and a sunlit landscape is too extreme to expect to see both imaged in the same exposure. Yet you went on page after page arguing that the lack of stars was a suspicious anomaly, even claiming that you photographed stars yourself, "no problem".

It's obvious that whatever you may have reluctantly learned about photography came from your Apollo thread participation. You started the thread knowing virtually nothing, yet felt compelled to act as though you were informed enough to have a technical discussion on the subject, and even contradict an actual expert, which pretty much sums up the vast majority of your postings on this forum.