Ed Rob Menard's FOTL Claims

[Robrob]

So, can anyone point to actual Admiralty Courts that have a flag without a fringe? You'd think that might show that the fringe doesn't mean what they think it means.

Well that and the fact you don't have to have a flag at all for it to be a court. It's a decoration not a law.

 

[SpitfireIX]

There is a brand of Footlers in the US that believe that the United States of America is really a property of the Crown, and that the fringe around the flag signifies that the Queen owns the USA, and as an overseas territory of Mrs Windsor, means that it is subject to Admiralty law.

Probably the same ones who claim that all judges and attorneys have forfeited their citizenship due to having accepted the "noble title" of "esquire".

 

[arayder]

http://public.worldfreemansociety.o...d-freeman-society-news/105864-freeman-arsenal

“I am announcing the creation of a freeman arsenal. Let us discuss a centralized location for this, as well as off-shoots as I don't think any of us would like a search warrant and pigs brutalizing family. (I'm already moving out because of this).

Too late right now for more, others could carry the convo. I'd like a 10,000 strong peace force drawn within the next 5-10 years for southern Ontario; and if someone can make a thread discussing this region's capacity to sustain a 'campagin' if worse comes to worse, and martial law is declared. We must exercise due diligence will expand later on."- gatz.loc

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When you get the idea that you can make your own law, your own police force and your own money why not just make your own army?

Our subject, Bobby Menard, has no trouble unsheathing the sword, but he has no idea how and when it will be returned to the scabbard.

 

[LightinDarkness]

Probably the same ones who claim that all judges and attorneys have forfeited their citizenship due to having accepted the "noble title" of "esquire".

Which is hilarious because from my understanding esquire is simply a courtesy title, like Dr. for PhDs/MDs and Reverend for clergy. Its like they don't understand the difference between a formal noble title like you had to be granted by the crown in England which was hereditary and something people may choose to call you by custom due to your profession or academic degree.

 

[Horatius]

I'd like a 10,000 strong peace force drawn within the next 5-10 years for southern Ontario;

I'll say this, these guys are consistent. As with Menard's plan to have a police force comparable in size to the RCMP, this guy wants an Ontario based force that would be comparable in size to the Ontario Provincial Police:

Currently, the O.P.P. has over 6,100 uniformed, 850 auxiliary and 2,700 civilian personnel(2010)

Yes, I'm sure a fringe group of socially marginal people will be able to field and equip a force as large as the entire rest of the Ontario population is capable of funding. Sure they will.

I suppose if you're delusional about one thing, it's easy to be delusional about other things.....

 

[jargon buster]

catweasel, (Look at the tagline at WFS about who designed the site:
"Designed by Cunning NightWeasels"
Hmmm.)

I used the name catweasel on Ickes and WFS and was eventually banned on both , Rob is still posting as johnbc over on Ickes and someone with his exact posting style used the name the name catweasel on here.
Not that it was Robert or anything.

 

[Straw Man]

.....Rob is still posting as johnbc over on Ickes.....

Interesting! Thanks for the info JB.

 

[Cocana The Second]

Aha! 'Associates' will look into that one.

 

[jargon buster]

Menards resurfaced on WFS giving people his pearls of wisdom on dictionaries.
http://public.worldfreemansociety.o...general-questions/106290-definition-of-person

See those numbers in front of the definitions? That means they are different ones. It does not mean it is all these things at once, but is one of them, according to context.

In this case the first definition is the common usage and the definition of its general, informal and non-technical usage.

Always remember, dictionaries do NOT tell what what a word 'means'. They only give you the definitions. The limits as it were. To know what a word means, one must look at the presumptions upon which the definition relies, and the ramifications or result. Tis gives you a clearer idea of the meaning of a word. Dictionaries only give definitions. Definitions are not meanings any more than a fence is the field.

It doesn't impact your efforts, if you can read and deduce using contextual clues. That will allow you to choose which definition is being pointed to in the statues.

Hes also particularly helpful here
http://public.worldfreemansociety.o...consumer-purchases-and-the-bank-of-canada-act

 

[Straw Man]

Obviously, Rob neglected to look up definition in the dictionary.

def·i·ni·tion/ˌdefəˈniSHən/
Noun:

A statement of the exact meaning of a word, esp. in a dictionary.
An exact statement or description of the nature, scope, or meaning of something.

 

[ComfySlippers]

Menards resurfaced on WFS giving people his pearls of wisdom on dictionaries.
http://public.worldfreemansociety.o...general-questions/106290-definition-of-person



Hes also particularly helpful here
http://public.worldfreemansociety.o...consumer-purchases-and-the-bank-of-canada-act

Classic Menard.
His definition of the word definition is awesome.

 

[jargon buster]

It doesn't impact your efforts, if you can read and deduce using contextual clues. That will allow you to choose which definition is being pointed to in the statues.

Which in Robworld means
It wont impact your efforts if you can read and misinterpret and twist using a definition that is as far from the blatantly obvious as possible. That will allow you to choose a definition that suits your purpose at any given time regardless of the actual definition that is being pointed to in the statues.

 

[LSSBB]

Which in Robworld means
It wont impact your efforts if you can read and misinterpret and twist using a definition that is as far from the blatantly obvious as possible. That will allow you to choose a definition that suits your purpose at any given time regardless of the actual definition that is being pointed to in the statues.

How very 1984 of him

 

[TSR]

I was thinking more Looking Glass-y:

"When I use a word," Robty Menty said in rather a scornful tone, "it means just what I choose it to mean -- neither more nor less."
"The question is," said the courts, "whether you can make words mean so many different things."
"The question is," said Robty Menty, "which is to be master -- that's all."
Sayeth the courts, "That would be us, now stop pretending to be a lawyer."

 

[jargon buster]

Hes also particularly helpful here
http://public.worldfreemansociety.o...consumer-purchases-and-the-bank-of-canada-act

hahahaha..Robs gone and banned musicalfreeman because he thinks its me after reading my link here.
There goes another potential 'mark' he's just lost because of his paranoia.

 

[ComfySlippers]

hahahaha..Robs gone and banned musicalfreeman because he thinks its me after reading my link here.
There goes another potential 'mark' he's just lost because of his paranoia.

WFS is a model for freedom of speech.
Question Rob about his idiotic claims and he dons his mod hat and bans you.
What a tool.

 

[arayder]

This goes to reinforce my theory that freemen gurus, Menard in particular, are paralyzed by feelings of low self worth which they act out by behaving as the sort of authority figures they say they loath.

It seems to have escaped our self-claimed 147 I.Q. paper tiger that attempting to run an open forum while acting like a hypercritical parent, a tyrannical hockey coach or an out of control drill instructor doesn’t enhance freedom.

How ironic it is that the only person at the WFS forum totally free to speak his mind is Menard.

 

[Irish Mick]

This goes to reinforce my theory that freemen gurus, Menard in particular, are paralyzed by feelings of low self worth which they act out by behaving as the sort of authority figures they say they loath.

It seems to have escaped our self-claimed 147 I.Q. paper tiger that attempting to run an open forum while acting like a hypercritical parent, a tyrannical hockey coach or an out of control drill instructor doesn’t enhance freedom.

How ironic it is that the only person at the WFS forum totally free to speak his mind is Menard.

That is a very good summation and I agree.

To me Freemen overall are tyring to boost their sense of worth and importance.

I would sum it up as thus: I am important therefore acts and statues do not apply to me.

 

[jargon buster]

I am important therefore acts and statues do not apply to me.

fixed for reality it reads

I am impotent therefore acts and statues do apply to me.

 

[arayder]

In the freeman subculture any fantastic story believed is better than the truth.

The prime example being our subject who, as near as we can tell, is reduced to using assumed names to post on internet forums pretending he has knowledge of an anonymous friend or co-worker who has magically used a Menardian method to beat the rap on this or that spittin’ on the sidewalk charge.

The Fezed One at first feigns disbelief but proceeds, as the conversation unfolds, to claim to have seen the proof positive paperwork. This is done in the hopes he will leave the impression that, like his old story 'bout beating a public drinking rap, a street level victory has been achieved.

The story, like his old ones, can’t be disproved because we never get the details and the tale is never of enough gravity to have made the papers.