Ed Rob Menard's FOTL Claims

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..... taking a jab at lawyers by including them under the heading of "Things of no value.
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Yet, his job opening shows the following

Chief Legal Officer (CLO)
Company: Association of Canadian Consumer Purchasers
Company Industry: Financial Industry
Number of Employees: 20-50 Employees
Total Compensation: To Be Negotiated

Reports to: Board of Executives
Location: Canada
Job Description: Chief Legal Officer (CLO)

Snip....The Chief Legal Officer (CLO) is an executive level position within ACCP and will manage the legal requirements of ACCP. The CLO will be a certified lawyer with leadership abilities. The selected candidate is highly effective and is a well-respected legal professional with a strong corporate finance background. The CLO must be able to act confidently and decisively regarding legal challenges. The CLO must also have impeccable communication skills and constantly keep the President, CAO and Executive Team up-to-date on happenings.
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taking a jab at lawyers by including them under the heading of "Things of no value.
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Maybe this is also a misguided attempt by Robert to try and get a lawyer on his side , this rule ensures any lawyers working for the company always get paid in cash for their advice.

Idiotic I know, but bearing in mind who we are talking about anythings possible
 
just to show it isnt Menard with his neck on the line i just recieved this e-mail from 'Tracey at ACCP'
I wrote
Hello, I am interested in what the ACCP has to offer, I just have a couple of questions before I decide to subscribe as there are a lot of anomalies within the sites information.
It says I cannot purchase anything that I can re-sell however I can buy building supplies, couldnt someone simply order a few thousand dollars worth of supplies and then just advertise it on e-bay?

Also how is the amount of clothing an individual is allowed to purchase decided?

Regards Joe Swift
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the response
Hi Joe,

Thank you for your interest in ACCP. We are still in the beginning stages of developing ACCP and your questions are important to us. I hope to help answer your questions the best way possible.

You are right about the building supplies being able to be resold. That can happen and therefore may not be something that a consumer purchase can be used for. My understanding is that you cannot purchase building supplies because, like you said, they can be resold, however you can hire a contractor who buys the supplies. An example would be you cannot purchase paint for your house - because you can resell it - however you can hire a painter to come in and paint your house instead. I think that section will need to be changed alittle bit. Thank you for bringing my attention to it. If anything, this is something that will need to be looked at further and quite possibly added once ACCP is established.

As for the clothing, there will be a limited amount. Once, possibly twice a year, you will be able to purchase the following items of clothing:

Winter boots– 1 pair
Winter jacket, gloves, hat and scarf – 1
Casual shoes – 1 pair
Dress shoes – 1 pair
Thermal Underwear – 3 sets
Regular Underwear – 3 sets
Socks – 6 pair
Pants – 3 pairs
Shirts/Blouses – 3
For Men – 2 suits
For Women - 2 suits or 2 dresses/skirts

This is an area that will be closely monitored as well to ensure that those items are being purchased for the member and their immediate family. The logistics have not been worked out for the process yet - whether it be certain articles of clothing at a clothing store will have our logo on it or there will be 2 one week periods where we will inform members that if they want to purchase basic clothing then they can in that week. There are still a lot of answers that need to be worked out and in order for that to happen, we need an Executive Team. If you haven't already, have a look at our job postings and if you are qualified for any position, please let me know.

There will be certain categories that will walk a fine line between items able to be resold and items consumed and those will need to be worked out with a fine tooth comb when we are at that stage. Also, I'm sure the government will want a say as to what is "consumed" and what isn't and that will play a part in what providers are affiliated with us. For example, it will be much easier to get food from a restaurant, as you are consuming that meal then it will be to get groceries - because there is still a potential to resell those items you purchased from the grocery store.

Memberships will not be accepted until all these kinks are worked out and it is completely clear for the member as to what items can be consumed and what cannot be.

As for now, thank you for your questions. I am going to relook at the building supplies and have that updated so not to confuse any more people. I hope I answered your questions. Please let me know if you have anything else you would like an answer on.

Sincerely,

Tracey
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It does look like it is being made up as they go along.:rolleyes:
Its just another freeman valley, C3PO, Hobbit Home that will never see the light of day
 
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Horatius said:
I love how he's trying to look sooo professional, but still can't avoid saying things like "smokes" instead of cigarettes, and taking a jab at lawyers by including them under the heading of "Things of no value".


Here's another hint Menard: Real financial service providers don't take petty potshots at people who've annoyed them in the past, and also try to sound more educated than the Trailer Park Boys.
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I am genuinely surprised he didn't personally call out Jargon Buster or any other JREF member or the forum as a whole.

Yet.

I'm absolutely certain his content is being filtered at some point, probably by the people making the site.

Although he did that in his stupid presentation video ("if you put a bill and $5 on a table, they magically disappear! Economics!"), and he links to it, so there is that. Hopefully people tricked onto that site do watch it.
 
My understanding is that you cannot purchase building supplies because, like you said, they can be resold, however you can hire a contractor who buys the supplies.
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Why cant the contractor use the process to buy the supplies?
Actually he will be because he will bill the homeowner the cost of the materials to do the job and then claim it back with the bill the ACCP member signs?????

This stuff is comedy gold.
 
jargon buster said:
It does look like it is being made up as they go along.:rolleyes:
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"Oh, sorry, did we say basic necessities? Apparently we completely failed to read our own site. We meant whatever we mean whenever we decide whatever... la la la la."
 
jargon buster said:
Actually he will be because he will bill the homeowner the cost of the materials to do the job and then claim it back with the bill the ACCP member signs?????
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Which of course will cost the consumer more money, pretend or otherwise, than doing the job themselves in an environmentally friendlier, more self sufficient manner.
 
Just had a quick scan of my Menardian dictionary
Basic necessities
Items that Robert Menard decides them to be at any given moment in time, also they will vary each time they are defined depending on the audience.
 
Paul said:
"Oh, sorry, did we say basic necessities? Apparently we completely failed to read our own site. We meant whatever we mean whenever we decide whatever... la la la la."
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Yeah.

For example, it will be much easier to get food from a restaurant, as you are consuming that meal then it will be to get groceries - because there is still a potential to resell those items you purchased from the grocery store.
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Eating at restaurants? Basic necessity!

Groceries you can cook with at home? Frivolous luxuries!
 
For example, it will be much easier to get food from a restaurant, as you are consuming that meal then it will be to get groceries - because there is still a potential to resell those items you purchased from the grocery store.
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Nope, its easier to get food from a restaurant than from a grocery store because by the time you come to pay for it its in your belly as opposed to the checkout.
 
Interesting that Menard threw away his membership here before providing proof that Debbi-Gate wasn't just another pile of nonsense.

He'd have had some proof that his ACCP isn't just a very poorly thought out copied scam.

"Tracy" 's job would be a lot easier also.
No need to have to try and explain how something that will never work ... works.

As we've all stated, his latest footbullet is so funny it's impossible to fathom his thinking.

To devote so much of his time to utter nonsense means one of two things:

He is so deperate for money, (the real stuff), that he will waste lots of time to get just a couple of hundred bucks from the couple of morons who fall for it.

Or

He believes it all. Which puts his sanity in question.

I can't help wonder what his next fantasy will be after ACCP fails.

He's copied all the really bad Soverign Citizen / Commercial Redemption cons.
He's copied the "Banks create money out of thin air" brigade.
He's invented a pretend police force and a pretend currency.
I've just listened to a recording of him and his WFS minions arguing like children in 2010 about his pretend society.
He's done the fake bank thing.
His minion who runs WFS owns This Domain :rolleyes:

Can it get any sillier?
 
Issuing idle threats has been a full-time job.

If left in peace I will raise millions for detoxification programs.
If interfered with, I will cost you much more.
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As has never selling his pretend legal advice.

We offer a 3-hour Seminar
that can give you
the information you need
to free yourself completely
from the government.
ONLY $50
MONEY BACK GUARANTEED
NO TAXES-NO PERMITS-NO LICENSES
-NO ****-
Presented by Comedian/Presenter
Robert Arthur Menard
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Over ten years of lies, idle threats and not once, ever, achieving any success whatsoever other than in footbulletry.
 
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Rob Wrote in 2004
However any interference will free my time and will cause me to bring actions to address various issues,
from Violation Tickets, which are bills of exchange,
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Sterrrike one....!
to the fact the Natural Persons can ride the SkyTrain absolutely freely,
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Sterrrrike two!
to the fact that student loans can be set-off with the bond tracking number found on the back of a Birth Certificate.
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Steeeerrrrike threee!, you're out buddy :)
 
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jargon buster said:
Just had a quick scan of my Menardian dictionary
Basic necessitiesItems that Robert Menard decides them to be at any given moment in time, also they will vary each time they are defined depending on the audience.
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Beer and pot.
 
to the fact that student loans can be set-off with the bond tracking number found on the back of a Birth Certificate.
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I just love that one......lol

The only thing better was watching him dance when he was asked why, if he had millions in this 'bond', he didn't obtain it......
 
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I have been engaged in an exchange of e-mails with 'Tracey' from ACCP.
My final e-mail asked what legislation allowed the process of the consumer note transaction and has it as yet been used successfully?

The answer...





Tumbleweed.......;)
 
I have a feeling Menard isnt as 'hands on' with the ACCP site as he likes to believe.
If he was I wouldnt have had as many responses from 'Tracey', I think this is just someone Menard has 'latched onto' and the only input Menard will have is that he will be a nominated 'artist', although I dont want to upset him but the $62.50 from the members monthly contribution actually gets put on a Consumer Purchase Card as opposed to him getting the cash.
He will however have to admit to being a Citizen of Canada and also prove that fact to the ACCP Board (when they get one) and without a SIN or BC its going to be pretty difficult.
 
I feel, in contrast, that it is all Menard. Delusions of granduer. Tracey IMO is a Mark he found with the same ideals and/or beliefs.

"Smokes"? Really? That doesn't seem Menardian? Not to, mention it is his video that plays under "introduction video".
 
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