Ed Rob Menard's FOTL Claims

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ComfySlippers said:
Astoundingly and unexpectedly the folks on WFS are saying, about the CBC interview proper, things like;
Corporate media is called that because its owned by the largest corporations. Does anyone really think these same corporations are going to expose the truth of how the game is played or about who runs the show? What are the chances of the truth about any number of topics we discuss here being permitted to air to the masses? I'd say 0%
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Oh dear. I can't tell if this FOTLer is too stupid to know that the CBC is a crown corporation, or if he's just parroting the usual crap about governments being corporations.

Either way, sigh.
 
my money is on pure hitpiece meant to make freemen look like outlaws.
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Hey I have a crazy idea that might improve that whole reputation for being outlaws thing... Rather than, I don't know, say turn routine traffic stops into jail time for the various Freeman in a futile attempt to prove that a Freeman can't be governed without individual consent, they could actually try something productive. Maybe run for local council. I'm sure that even the smallest towns in Canada have bylaws that Freeman would object to. Through small incremental change, they could demonstrate the superiority of the freeman philosophy of love and tolerance over coercion. Nah, I'm probably wrong and the reason none of this has worked so far is that I haven't sent Rob enough money and listened carefully enough to his wisdom.
 
Hektor said:
Hey I have a crazy idea that might improve that whole reputation for being outlaws thing... Rather than, I don't know, say turn routine traffic stops into jail time for the various Freeman in a futile attempt to prove that a Freeman can't be governed without individual consent, they could actually try something productive. Maybe run for local council. I'm sure that even the smallest towns in Canada have bylaws that Freeman would object to. Through small incremental change, they could demonstrate the superiority of the freeman philosophy of love and tolerance over coercion. Nah, I'm probably wrong and the reason none of this has worked so far is that I haven't sent Rob enough money and listened carefully enough to his wisdom.
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Exactly. If you don't want to be made to look like an outlaw, don't espouse a political philosophy which explicitly states that you are outside the law (sigh, the wangdoodle.)
 
What a surprise. Menard brags about his interview here:

FreemanMenard said:
Hey who here is being interviewed today and invited to share their beliefs nationally?
That would be me.
And who made it possible?
That would be YOU all!
Thank you!
Well I have to prepare for my interview later today.
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But the moment he realizes that CBC isn't going to give him a sycophantic "thumbs up," he and his followers start dismissing it as a smear job.
 
I think Robert Arthur is either having a "success story" after his CBC interview or is dossing on the floor of someone who can't afford internet access.

Anyhoo:

Our friend arayder has asked an important question of Robert over at DIF.
A Question for Menard

Please excuse me for quoting the full text... I think this is still very much worthy of discussion here;

Menard has been trolling me on other threads whenever I mention freeman valley.

Let’s heap frog the debate by starting a new thread.

There is no hiding my skepticism about freeman valley and its usefulness or propriety. So here is Menard’s chance to trump what he calls my denigration of the freeman valley effort by showing us all how well it is going.

The door is open for Rob to lay my skepticism to waste.

So I ask him these questions of Menard:

1. Is the valley still south of Dawson Creek?

2. What is an estimated amount of cash, donated items and services etc. which have gathered to begin the effort? Exact totals are not needed, just an estimate.

3. What tangible progress has been made in setting up the valley? Has secure title the land been obtained? Are there buildings mentioned in August 2010 up yet? Are there any people living there? Any local organization, however informal, in place? Again, there is no need to knock yourself out with too much detail, Rob.

As you can see the questions go to the general matter of the effectiveness of the effort and what freemen are getting for their support, money and efforts.

These questions are not about the philosophical nature of freeman valley, or whether freemen are doing the right thing there.

It’s about simple transparency and accountability.

I will consider any attempt on Menard’s part to avoid the substance of any of these questions as an attempt to avoid transparency and openness about an effort he has otherwise been very quick to brag about and tout as something that is really happening.
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Now the last I heard, after all his talk about chickens and eggs, was that Robert had to leave Freedom Valley due to a "love interest".

Disclaimer: I don't know if "love interest" in Menardish actually means "It didn't work and was always a fantasy" or not. I can never keep up with his obsession of redefining words and phrases to suit himself.
I am in no doubt that "Freedom Valley" was never anything other than a figment of Menard's strange imagination and ability to manufacture tall tales.

So at the top of the agenda(!)... How are "Freedom Valley", "C3PO / Peace Officers" and the "A4V" scams going these days Robby?
 
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Let me have a go...

1. Is the valley still south of Dawson Creek?
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Nope, never existed at all.
2. What is an estimated amount of cash, donated items and services etc. which have gathered to begin the effort? Exact totals are not needed, just an estimate.
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Any amount would now have been excreted up against a wall from the gurus bladder.
3. What tangible progress has been made in setting up the valley? Has secure title the land been obtained? Are there buildings mentioned in August 2010 up yet? Are there any people living there? Any local organization, however informal, in place? Again, there is no need to knock yourself out with too much detail, Rob.
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See answer number 1
 
jargon buster said:
Let me have a go...


Nope, never existed at all.
Any amount would now have been excreted up against a wall from the gurus bladder.
See answer number 1
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Can you elaborate here? Do you know if Menard or any of his freeman pards have clear title to the land?
 
There never was any land, Rob tried to trick a guy called Ray into letting him have some land but he ran him out of town.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1CTRMSyWLE

The video was produced after his other claim to have acquired some land fell apart.
Rob still claims to have bought 110 acres that he has been working on but has now decided to sell, I have asked for the sites address when he puts it up for sale, but in reality it won't happen because it was just lies (again)
 
jargon buster said:
There never was any land, Rob tried to trick a guy called Ray into letting him have some land but he ran him out of town.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1CTRMSyWLE

The video was produced after his other claim to have acquired some land fell apart.
Rob still claims to have bought 110 acres that he has been working on but has now decided to sell, I have asked for the sites address when he puts it up for sale, but in reality it won't happen because it was just lies (again)
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That would be Ray H****, an area Tae Kwon instructor. He can be contacted.

Has anyone thought of doing a title search for Menard's 110 acres?
 
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That would be Ray H****, an area Tae Kwon instructor. He can be contacted.
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PM me his name and I will contact him.

Has anyone thought of doing a title search for Menard's 110 acres?
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I have searched high and low for it, it simply doesn't exist, he's a liar.
 
Rob has claimed he bought 110 acres and was working on it building a cabin and tending the land.
He hasn't mentioned it for a while though.
 
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