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Fine, don't be "cowed by the threat of firearms." the next time a police officer points his weapon at you, don't obey him. Suit yourself. I most certainly will be obeying that police officer. I suppose that makes me a coward. I can live with that.
very clever. We were talking about the threat of the use of a firearm, and you have now spoken of how one is being actually used. Of course i would do whatever he or anyone else holding a gun on me told me to do, within certain limits. The issue was do you do whatever the police say when they have a gun, but are not using it, (pointing it to achieve compliance is using it, one does not have to pull the trigger). You say you would be obeying the officer. What if it was not an officer, would you obey him, knowing if you did not you would get shot, cause if so you are simply obeying a man with a gun, not the officer part.
Do you obey the officer who is telling you to do something unlawful even if his gun is still holstered, because he has a gun, though is not pointing it, and you are fearful he will pull it out and use it? That is what i am talking about. Not someone pointing a gun at you. Incidentally, they need damn good reason to even pull their sidearm here.
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Again, that is not a correct observation. Just as one example, people illegally in canada (who obviously have no sin) are routinely deported from canada (by force of course).
they were not born here, and the statutes not applicable to them are the ones which would allow them to collect benefits. Such as welfare or ei. 'certain acts' i said sol. If one cannot get a sin, because they are not here legally, can one secure the statutory benefits which state one must have a sin to secure them? Obviously not, right?
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That's because they don't care if you have a sin or not.
tell that to cra and those who try to collect income taxes. They certain do care if you are associated with a number, cause if you are not you have no account with them, and no obligations.
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No, because they don't care if you have a sin or not. Please see above.
that position is destroyed by them asking what your sin is so often. If they do not care, why ask what your sin is?
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You're of course welcome to tell the police officer pointing a gun at you that you no longer allow him to have that gun. Good luck with that.
and you are welcome to say that to a non-officer with a gun to do the same. Now tell me, how is one any different form the other?
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Again, they don't care if you vote because it makes absolutely no difference.
i do agree that voting makes no difference, and is not a way to successfully change 'the system'.
They do use guns once you have agreed, to enforce the terms of the agreement, but they still use agreement, and we still have a choice.
Every instance of a police officer pointing a gun at someone and telling them to do something is an instance of the government saying "we have the guns, do what we tell you." i think that is absolutely clear. Please provide one example of the government saying "you submitted an application for a sin so you are now subject to all of our laws." just one example. I eagerly await your reply.
Every instance of anyone pointing a gun at you is someone telling you they will govern your actions. I think that is absolutely clear. Does that make it lawful, merely cause they have a gun? You seem to think that the cops are right, merely cause they do have a gun.
Just look at your fear level. You likely have never had a cop point a gun at you. I have. He ordered me to lie face down, i refused. I also told him to stop doing it or shoot me. Just then his buddies showed up, asked what was happening, i told them and they raced off to arrest someone i had been following. (i witnessed a group of punks assault a guy and his gf and sister, called 911 and followed them. The first on the scene was a young cop who told everyone to get on the ground. I refused at this point, all the punks got on the ground, the other car pulled up, asked what was happening, i told them , pointed out the one i saw commit the assault a hundred yards down the road, they raced off to pick them up, and the young cop and the next car on the scene started arresting the punks.
What i am talking about is thinking they are above the law and to be obeyed with out question merely because they have a gun, and you are scared they will use it to achieve compliance.
To answer your question, i do not have any instance where the deceivers have admitted their deception, on the record.
Now answer mine.
If the guy pointing the gun at you and governing your actions was not a cop, would you claim his actions were lawful, for no other reason then they had a gun, and if not, why would you assume that was the case for any cop?
If your position is that you will obey anyone who has a gun, even if they are not using it, you my friend live in a state of fear. And that is apparently exactly what the police and those who pay them want. Tell me, why should we fear our servants? And why should our servants think they can command and regulate us? If they can do it without our signatures on pieces of paper, why do they spend so much securing those signatures? And why do those documents create an association where they have power, if they had the power to begin with.
Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain!
Your willingness to simply dismiss key parts of the puzzle, in favour of pointing out they have a gun, will not allow you to see the whole picture.
