Ed Rob Menard's FOTL Claims

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Elizabeth I said:
Wait - is he saying that the Prime Minister of Canada has a vendetta against him?

All righty then. I think it's professional help time for Rob.
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He might be saying it, but I doubt he believes it.
What is important though is that his followers will.
What can be better than to fabricate such a story in preparation for the declaration of a victory?
 
we havent laughed at Menard for a while so he throws us a doozy
http://forum.davidicke.com/showpost.php?p=1059791474&postcount=51
in a discussion about the courts being commercial entities out to make profits where a skeptic asked if they were out to simply make profits why did people get jailed rather than fined, he said...

Not sure of in Britain, but there is some evidence (don't ask I do not have the time) where each prisoner results in a bond being generated and sold and generating revenue in that fashion.

Feel free to google it there is plenty to show it is true.

PRISONERS = MONEY for the people operating the prisons, courts...
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Not sure, some evidence, dont know where, a bond is generated and sold????:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:

He really is three sheets to the wind :D
 
jargon buster said:
Not sure, some evidence, dont know where, a bond is generated and sold????:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:

He really is three sheets to the wind :D
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Okay, so turn it around: why isn't every punishment jail time rather than fines, or suspended sentences, or community service?


And doesn't the Government already have a bond on all of us? What is this then, a "person equity" loan?

And why is a convicted criminal suddenly worth more than an honest citizen? Isn't that completely backwards?
 
The moronic Menard has just added evidence against his argument and he thinks it backs him up
Google Private prisons.

If there was no money it in, why would corporations be seeking to build and invest in them?
More and more going up every month. And the prisoners are often offered employment making consumer goods for pennies and hour. They are in effect slaves, except they can 'choose' to not do any work and stay in their cells for 23 hours a day.
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Of course theres money in private prisons, it doesnt come from the prisoners themselves it comes from the tax payer :D

Thats why they make them do menial tasks, its to pay for their upkeep, jeez what a maroon.

Oh and his evidence comes from this site
http://www.capp.50megs.com/
Doesnt look like anyones been on it for 3 years at least.

He makes a claim that prisoners are paid for by a bond and then posts evidence that there are private prisons :D:D
My, my he's getting desperate.
 
a touch of irony from Menard.
When asked about the fees he charges for his shows..
Many feel the $10-$20 PWYC is well worth it, and it is in line with other comedic performers.
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I bet he has them rolling in the aisles with his "you are not a person" and "bond" gags.:D
 
jargon buster said:
My, my he's getting desperate.
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Desperate be blowed, even by his own standards that's weak. Is Menard losing his touch? Maybe with UCADIA breathing down his neck he's been hitting the bottle/bong too hard. If he wants to compete with their... er.. creative thinking, he's going to have to do better than that. Also it could be that he's channelling all his energy into that Utopian Butlins he was developing, wonder how that's going. C'mon Rob, pull your finger out.



jargon buster said:
I bet he has them rolling in the aisles with his "you are not a person" and "bond" gags.:D
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Well, like you say, he's got strong material. :D
 
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Menard has gone one better in providing proof that prisoners pay for themselves.
http://forum.davidicke.com/showpost.php?p=1059792054&postcount=70

http://www.fourwinds10.com/siterun_...surance/social_security/news.php?q=1225927406

Now as you can imagine this information is from a trusted and impartial source, it states
Did you know that prisoners are bonded and given a cusip number, which is pooled with all the other bonds and traded on the stock market under the name of the bonding warehouse (prison) where they keep the surety (person)?
The cusip number is supposedly made up of the persons government created ID number, either Social Security Number or TFN or whatever.

Have you noticed on Schapelle Corby's prison plate she was holding, it had her all caps person name, then PSL: 78UUNO 22/1997 TGL 10-11-2004
The prisoner is released when the bond matures, and they have finished earning their profits (interest)
It is rumoured (ha ha ha) that a prisoner can be released if a bond is issued to cover the cost and cancel/satisfy the obligation.
We are the self loading baggage in a commercial transaction of international trade and securities exchange when we travel from port to port.
Sea Port, Air Port, And the Trans - Port dept regulates all vehicles including trains.
Here's what happens here in Australia if you don't have a ticket to ride on their vehicle ... the policy enforcers are waiting to take you away.
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I stopped reading at the bolded section :rolleyes:

I think Menard may be trying to goad posters to insult him then he can get them banned, either that or he is completely round the bend.
 
I am trying to work out what an Australian Citizen, Schapelle Corby in an Indonesian jail for drug smuggling has to do with USA or Canadian FMOTL movements or Bonds (James Bonds?). Is this a world wide inter-Government thingy? Did Australia pay Indonesia a Bond to jail Schappelle?

And, no, Schappelle was NOT trying to use FMOTL principles when smuggling drugs into Indonesia. She was just being young and stupid. And nearly cost her her life, not just 20+ years in an Indonesian prison.

BTW, Indonesian prisons are not privately owned.

Norm
 
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jargon buster said:
Menard has gone one better in providing proof that prisoners pay for themselves.
http://forum.davidicke.com/showpost.php?p=1059792054&postcount=70

http://www.fourwinds10.com/siterun_...surance/social_security/news.php?q=1225927406



I stopped reading at the bolded section :rolleyes:

I think Menard may be trying to goad posters to insult him then he can get them banned, either that or he is completely round the bend.
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So, Menard is quoting that page as some sort of authority on prisons, is he? Perhaps we should ask if they are just as reliable a source of information when they discuss this part of their mission:


To reveal the evil world leaders' cover-up of off-world humans (our ancestors), who are here in starships in Earth's atmosphere at this time, and who have come with good intent to help us prevent the evil Plan 2000 from being accomplished, and to help us establish the New Age of Enlightenment.
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What does anyone get out of the Bond? it is created when someone goes to jail and is traded on the stockmarket? What is the bond worth?
How does a prisoner sat in a cell for 5 years have any value other than to a private security company being paid directly by ythe govt to manage a prison?
 
gtm said:
& what loony website would be complete without the obligatory screed of rabid antisemitism?

http://www.fourwinds10.com/siterun_data/history/
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Ewwwww!
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Plus they have wacky U.S. history:
The outlaw Jesse Woodson James killed the actor John Wilkes Booth at the Grand Avenue Hotel in Enid, Oklahoma in 1903 after Booth continually reneged on his oath to never talk about his secret membership in the Masonic-oriented Knights of the Golden Circle (KGC) and to never mention the murder of Abraham Lincoln.

John Wilkes Booth did not die in Garrett’s tobacco barn in 1865 as is commonly supposed. Booth was saved by his brother Knights and spirited immediately down into Texas after the assassination. He lived and worked for many years in Granbury under the alias ‘John St. Helen.’
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ETA: the site includes allegation that AIDS engineering dates back to the late 1800's
http://www.fourwinds10.com/siterun_data/history/american/news.php?q=1287858430
I almost started a new thread for it, but I'm lazy today
 
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If they came at this bond theory from a different angle they may just get away with it.
Rather than a birth bond call it a NI number bond that is created when you start being productive (working paying tax and national insurance contributions) and at that point you as an individual have a net worth to the government which they could then say to another country, "look how productive this guy is, do you want to buy a bit of him now and get a future return on his potential earnings"

Unfortunately this theory will fall flat with the potential recruits of FMOTL as none of them are actually productive and as such worth nothing.

PS the above paragraph is copyright of Jargon Buster, at no point is it to be paraded as fact on any freeman forums
 
jargon buster said:
If they came at this bond theory from a different angle they may just get away with it.
Rather than a birth bond call it a NI number bond that is created when you start being productive (working paying tax and national insurance contributions) and at that point you as an individual have a net worth to the government which they could then say to another country, "look how productive this guy is, do you want to buy a bit of him now and get a future return on his potential earnings"
Unfortunately this theory will fall flat with the potential recruits of FMOTL as none of them are actually productive and as such worth nothing.

PS the above paragraph is copyright of Jargon Buster, at no point is it to be paraded as fact on any freeman forums
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Too late:

Flash! JB breaks down and admits the truth of bonded servitude.:)
 
Rob claims a victory on Ickes
http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=163835
Rob, today in court: all charges withdrawn before i could even issue a bill, they saw the estimate and my claim and notice and that was the end of it, also they had the building empty , the goon squad guarding the door and a private hearing, my cams werent allowed in, but they did respect the common law in the end.. so i won but i didnt get to **** anyone lol.

Reported from BC. But don't worry haters and naysayers, you can shut your eyes and ignore it, or assign myriad of reasons as to why it happened, or claim it didn't. Or you can demand and not receive evidence and proof. Does not stop the fact that it happened.
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He was charged under the MVA for driving with no license, registration or insurance. His position was he was merely exercising his right to travel.
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Could this be the guy on WFS?
http://forum.worldfreemansociety.org/viewtopic.php?f=85&t=9293
Well I went to peacefully take care of the matter and identified myself as a peaceful inhabitant of this country. They told me I had no standing, so I left because they didn't want to talk to me. They have probably found ADAM MCDONALD guilty and charged him but it's not me so let them. I am that I am and this whole planet is my home in which to do as I like so long as it is peaceful and no one short of god (or whatever you believe to be bigger than us) will tell me otherwise! Peace and love to all
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The locations state differently , but i suspect Rob has jumped on the back of this as hes desperate for anything to go right for him at the moment.
 
from the same thread a gem from Menard on another freemans massive fail in court
He tried to rely upon the Magna Carta in Canada. I do not know I would have done that.He allowed them to define and then claim he was rejecting the rule of law. I would not have allowed that, instead claiming it for myself and pointing out the importance of equality to the rule of law, and how that means government requires consent.
I did not see consent mentioned anywhere, nor any opinion that government exists without it. Simply that the Magna Carta did not allow it in Canada.
The Criminal Code does though.
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I would have, I would have!!!!
The fact is Rob doesnt "do" at all.
 
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