Follow along with the video below to see how to install our site as a web app on your home screen.
Note: This feature may not be available in some browsers.
Quick note - the problem with Youtube videos not embedding on the forum appears to have been fixed, thanks to ZiprHead. If you do still see problems let me know.
This is an open letter to Rob Menard to come forward and clear up any misconceptions that may have developed in the "Freedom Movement in England" thread.
I will set the ball rolling with one question.
Why, if you have $8 million dollars sitting in a "Birth Bond" do you not access it and the rest of your World Freeman Society members bonds and create your freeman society with its own infrastructure and laws?
This is an open letter to Rob Menard to come forward and clear up any misconceptions that may have developed in the "Freedom Movement in England" thread.
I will set the ball rolling with one question.
Why, if you have $8 million dollars sitting in a "Birth Bond" do you not access it and the rest of your World Freeman Society members bonds and create your freeman society with its own infrastructure and laws?
This is an open letter to Rob Menard to come forward and clear up any misconceptions that may have developed in the "Freedom Movement in England" thread.
I will set the ball rolling with one question.
Why, if you have $8 million dollars sitting in a "Birth Bond" do you not access it and the rest of your World Freeman Society members bonds and create your freeman society with its own infrastructure and laws?
It seems that Rob's excuse that he "wants to help others first" doesn't quite work out either, as my open offer for $10,000 to help create a FMOTL legal defense fund would help him in that goal. I imagine that if the fictional birth certificate bond were real it might be a little bit of work accessing it, forms to fill out and what not. Of course its not real, but neither is anything else he pushes.
However, I am offering $10,000 which Rob could use to help others that would require no work on his part. Since has has so many successes, it would take him 5 minutes to produce:
1) One court citation from any lawful court of any jurisdiction where a judge has written an opinion stating that the defendant is exempt and innocent of any charge because of his freeman on the land status.
2) One court letter from any government agency of any government anywhere in the world that notes any person is exempt from ANY government statutory obligation due to their status as freeman on the land.
How simple would this be if any of this were true? I'm not requiring a specific country, level of jurisdiction, offense type, or anything like that. As I've said before, I'm only offering $10,000 because its money I actually have. I could offer $1 million or $100 million, which I don't have, because I know that FMOTL is not based on any real legal theory. However, on the plus side, I could transfer $10,000 without any trouble - might be an issue with $100 million.
My offer has been open to all Freemen on the land for over a year, not just Rob, but sadly, no inquires have been made. I wonder why? Seems like a no-brainer to me. I would very happily spend 5 minutes showing the sheeple the truth for $10,000.
I would love Rob to be right about all his freeman nonsense because I and everyone I know could sit about on a beach doing nothing for the rest of their lives.
I would love Rob to be right about all his freeman nonsense because I and everyone I know could sit about on a beach doing nothing for the rest of their lives.
What's sitting on the beach without a beer but somebody has to make the beer, which means someone has to grow the grain and hops, make brewing vessels, find the right yeasts and then put them all together with water.
Think I'll stop there all this work is making me thirsty so I'll just go to the fridge and pull out a cold one.
What's sitting on the beach without a beer but somebody has to make the beer, which means someone has to grow the grain and hops, make brewing vessels, find the right yeasts and then put them all together with water.
Damn that darned reality stepping in and spoiling everything
Couldnt all the freemen enslave the "sheeple" and put them to toil in the fields and factories?
Replying to this modbox in thread will be off topic Posted By: Lisa Simpson
To answer your question JB, I do not do so because it is not my dream or goal. Pretty easy. You diod not think you would score any points with that did you? Will you answer mine now?
Seeing as how the rule of law states that equality is paramount, and the entire foundation of the Freeman movement is equality, and not birth securities, do you claim that we are not equal and thus consent is not required to be governed by others cause they are better then us, or do you accept we are equal in the eyes of the law, and thus no one can govern another without mutual consent?
Equality requires consent to govern. If consent is not required, then there is no equality. If there is equality, we can deny or revoke consent to be governed, and since we are equal you can't stop me. So that is where we are at. I believe in equality and thus can see the logical outcome of denying consent. You say we can't deny consent.
So JB here is your question: Do you agree all people are equal before the eyes of the law?
(Please do not do your asky avoidance dance and give run around about how you are in England and I am in Canada. For the purpose of this question, I refer to myself and anyone else in Canada.)
If you say yes, then it is implied that consent is required for one who is equal with another to govern. If you say no, you publicly abandon the rule of law and any and all claims of logic or reason.
I do appreciate you putting my name out there like this. I know I hit the big time cause I have my own hate-fans! And hey, lets see what the Bible has to say about what you are doing>..
Satan tries a third time. He brought Jesus to Jerusalem and took him up to the highest part of the temple and told him to jump off. He said that angels would come and lift him up so that he wouldn't be hurt.
The devil even starts quoting scripture now. He quoted from Psalm 91, "For He shall give His angels charge over you to keep you in all your ways. In their hands they shall bear you up, lest you dash your foot against a stone." (Satan left out the part about 'to keep you in all your ways'.)
Jesus answered him, "It has been said, 'You shall not tempt the Lord your God'."
See yourself here JB?
If Jesus could deal with the ultimate of deceivers, I think I can deal with a fool like you.
So why do you hate the rule of law JB? Why do you hate equality? Why you such a hater? At least you found some folks who share your aversion for thinking and reasoning.
PS- You cannot be for equality and deny people the ability to say no to another who wishes to govern them.
Speaking with this crowd is like trying to play chess with someone who insists on checkers. And they want to eat them....
Come on Rob are you now likening yourself to Jesus?
It would appear he is as slippery and deflective as you.
So why do you hate the rule of law JB? Why do you hate equality? Why you such a hater? At least you found some folks who share your aversion for thinking and reasoning.
Rob, you should wait for answers when asking questions rather than jumping to false conclusions, but thats your method isnt it, subliminal planting of information into the reader/listener.
I love how woos never want money. They can't think of a single thing to do with the wealth on offer to them. Make their own lives easier, give it to charity, pay a celebrity to have sex with them, none of these things appeal to them. Strange that.
I don't really think there is a world freeman society, even the folk who believe the freeman guff don't really, they like the idea but in their hearts the know it's rubbish and they definitely won't spend $250 on it.
To answer your question JB, I do not do so because it is not my dream or goal. Pretty easy. You diod not think you would score any points with that did you? Will you answer mine now?
And of course, there's simply no way having $8 million could allow you to pursue your "real" dream, right?
And of course, there's simply no way being a real-life example of how to do this could possibly be of any value for promoting your "dream or goal", right?
Noted that he totally avoided the OP's question about the $8 million. I expect we're likely to see about as much evidence for the existence of that as this God he keeps talking about.
This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register.
By continuing to use this site, you are consenting to our use of cookies.
