Richard Gage vs Mark Roberts

[DaN K. StAnLeY]

You're not talkin' to me.

"Well I'm the only one here....."

DVD extra's of Gravy preparing for the debate!

See Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMaTfAn7KAs


WARNING!! this clip contains the F, C, and S-words used several times. If you are offended by profanity, do not watch.

 

[qarnos]

While I will admit, it wasn't Mark's strongest performance (I think it is a combo of him thrown off that it was just to be WTC7 and him being out of the 9/11 loop for a while, as well as horrible moderation - sorry Clifton), he was still quite good.

This is what irks me. It was supposed to be about WTC7 and yet Gage obviously put some time into making that "model" of the twin towers. Was he unaware that this was just about WTC7? I seem to recall Mark getting chastised at one point for going off topic (although I may be wrong - I don't care enough to sit through all that again).

I just don't think it's fair play by Gage to insist the debate will be just about WTC7 and then bring the towers into it in an obviously pre-planned demonstration.

 

[T.A.M.]

Potassium is found in human bodies...OMG, that proves it beyond all doubt. Humans were used as bombs to destroy the WTC

The amount of Potassium was actually a topic of discussion we had here in another thread. Apparently, based on the concentration in the dust samples, if such samples correspond to an accurate value for the over all debris pile, the amount of K+ would have been too much to have been accounted for via human bodies alone.

However, given the amount of OTHER organic material that can be found within the towers, any towers (plants, paper, etc...) the amount of potassium can be accounted for without invoking ther-crap.

TAM

 

[Homeland Insurgency]

Hey Homeland Insurgency, have you addressed Gravy's refutation of the "molten steel" being tested? It seems he nailed you with those pesky fact thingys.

You mean when he claimed this material has not been tested?

 

[Wolrab]

I haven't read HI's other posts, so forgive me if I'm giving attention to a troll. He referred to my PM to him but decided not to reprint it, which I'd given him permission to do. Since he insists on being wrong, here's what I had told him:

Hello, HI. You are mistaken. Gage claims the presence of "tons of molten iron" that was the direct result of an incendiary such as thermite or thermate. No such material was found, nor do any workers or investigators claim it was found.

The material you cite below was cut from structural steel columns by investigators. It is, in fact, structural steel. It did not approach the melting point of steel, and quite obviously was not caused by thermite or thermate. I invite you to view the photos of the entire column K-16 in the NIST report, from which one sample was cut. You'll see what I mean quite clearly. NIST determined that the sulfidation and erosion to that column happened when it was horizontal, in the piles. Also, that column came from below the 53rd floor and did not figure in collapse initiation.

Feel free to post this response. Will you?

–Mark

Here you go again.

 

[Homeland Insurgency]

Here you go again.

Hey Wolrab?

What material did Roberts claim was not tested?

 

[Jonnyclueless]

Homeland, you claimed there were tests done that showed there was molten steel. That was completely untrue and Mark pointed it out. He's not say there was no testing, he said that it was untrue that they did testing showing there was molten iron/steel. A claim you yourself tried to boast as being true. And as expected you were wrong.

 

[T.A.M.]

I only hope Gravy does not approach this moment...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKR3QU3dB0M

TAM

 

[~enigma~]

Man, are the idiot truthers that immature they have to pick on Mark's mole both in this debate and the BBC show. I feel like they are all rotten comedians that think Austin Powers is a great life example...

 

[Blender Head]

Man, are the idiot truthers that immature they have to pick on Mark's mole both in this debate and the BBC show. I feel like they are all rotten comedians that think Austin Powers is a great life example...

It's tragic that the only thing they have on Mark is that he has a skin blemish.

 

[A W Smith]

i have that album

Man, are the idiot truthers that immature they have to pick on Mark's mole both in this debate and the BBC show. I feel like they are all rotten comedians that think Austin Powers is a great life example...

Mark of the Mole?

 

[Wolrab]

I'm trying to understand WTF happened.... Gravy PM's HI and explains what was tested. HI acknowledges the PM but doesn't mention that it refutes his position. Gravy posts the PM and HI has no idea what is being refuted.
Is that about right?

 

[Athyrio]

I'm trying to understand WTF happened.... Gravy PM's HI and explains what was tested. HI acknowledges the PM but doesn't mention that it refutes his position. Gravy posts the PM and HI has no idea what is being refuted.
Is that about right?

He knows exactly what he is doing. That's how a lot of these threads end up, not just at JREF. This guy briefly lures Gravy back to the CT forum and then dodges him, attempting a stall tactic by responding to you instead. This is just typical. All thunder, no rain.

 

[Homeland Insurgency]

A message to me today...

Richard Gage vs Mark Roberts
It's looking like you're a common troll, but I'll give you one more chance. Exactly what about my previous PM did you not understand? You did not reply to me, yet you are asking questions about my statements on the forum. Why?

Richard Gage on Kevin Barrett's radio show, May, 2008: "They would bring up these multi-ton chunks of this previously molten substance, which turns out to be iron."

This is a lie. No one who was involved in the recovery and cleanup operations claims these "multi-ton chunks" of iron existed. Don't take my word for it: ask Richard Gage for the citations for this information.

Will you?

You have my permission to post this PM. You can continue to act like a childish fool, or you can attempt to be a rational adult. Your choice. Clear enough?

–Mark Roberts

You lost Mark. Stop crying.

 

[~enigma~]

A message to me today...



You lost Mark. Stop crying.

What did Mark lose?

 

[AZCat]

A message to me today...

Richard Gage vs Mark Roberts
It's looking like you're a common troll, but I'll give you one more chance. Exactly what about my previous PM did you not understand? You did not reply to me, yet you are asking questions about my statements on the forum. Why?

Richard Gage on Kevin Barrett's radio show, May, 2008: "They would bring up these multi-ton chunks of this previously molten substance, which turns out to be iron."

This is a lie. No one who was involved in the recovery and cleanup operations claims these "multi-ton chunks" of iron existed. Don't take my word for it: ask Richard Gage for the citations for this information.

Will you?

You have my permission to post this PM. You can continue to act like a childish fool, or you can attempt to be a rational adult. Your choice. Clear enough?

–Mark Roberts

You lost Mark. Stop crying.

I think we now have the answer to his question.

 

[Slayhamlet]

A message to me today...



You lost Mark. Stop crying.

Apparently you consider keeping up a shameless lie in the face of all contrary evidence "winning". That is just too sad. I hope you will eventually mature enough to outgrow such embarrassing behavior.

 

[Blender Head]

Guys, don't you understand? HI said that Mark lost. Ergo, Mark is 100% wrong and no extrapolation is required!

 

[pomeroo]

A message to me today...



You lost Mark. Stop crying.

Wow! Whenever you think that the liars can't possibly sink any lower, they show what they're made of.


Yeah, you really put Mark in his place, fraud!

 

[beachnut]

A message to me today...

You lost Mark. Stop crying.

When will you present some evidence to back up Gage? You included proof you are wrong. Gage, with zero evidence, has fooled you. How did you let this happen? When you get a chance find some evidence before making statements that are debunked by your own post; just a suggestion. Why does 9/11 truth debunked themselves when they make false statements? It this a prerequisite for 9/11 truth membership?




What are the traits of being fooled by 9/11 truth? Political bias, lack of knowledge, poor logical thinking, lack of rational thinking? What are the top 10 traits?



Must of been the cardboard boxes...