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...Richard Gage destroyed by Kim Hill

They picked up the story? They don't confirm? Are they practiced in not confirming? Gee I wonder?

Not with breaking stories. They want to be the first to report information...

lets see... the ballon boy story springs to mind...

or dan rather stating on 9/11 that there was an explosion on the george washington bridge

or the reports of a van with a mural of a jet striking the towers driving around

News organizations want to break the story first... and in a chaotic environment they often will take a story and run with it, even if it may be wrong.

Nothing is hard to grasp here for me. How about you? Sure they use other agencies to report things first, but they are also suppose to back check. Don't report it if you don't know it to be true. Unless someone from higher up tells you different. Right?
Ah... argument from ignorance. Got it.

do you have any FACTS? I have provided you the source for why the bbc reported it collapsed...
 
They picked up the story? They don't confirm? Are they practiced in not confirming? Gee I wonder?

haven't you every heard the following phrase being used by the news:

"we have unconfirmed reports of X taking place just over an hour ago".

duhh!!!

the news media should be very flattered by how Truthers think they are sooooooo perfect and 100% right..all of the time.
 
cyclonic,

In the recent Fort Hood shootings, CNN reported that there were three gunmen. What happened to the other two?

It's the frog of war writ small. :)

Yes there is a lot of wrong reports throughout history.


For what possible reason would the bbc be in on the conspiracy?

Truthers are too stupid to see how stupid they really are!
 
"There are no coincidences, and nobody ever makes a mistake"

The truther credo. Morons.
 
I really don't get this. What do truthers think this BBC thing means? Let's assume for a moment that the perfectly reasonable explanation of a newsreader reading a mistaken newswire report in the fog of war (I have worked in a radio newsroom that relied on newswires - this happens a lot) is insufficient.

If so, what exactly does this prove? That the NWO/Iumminati/Lizard/Israeli/whatever agents are so stunningly competent that they can pull of the most massive and sinister conspiracy in the history of ever, succesfully destroying the WTC towers and part of the Pentagon and shifting the blame to Al Qaeda, without a single security leak, except...they prematurely hand a report about WTC7 to a low-level operative at the BBC? WTF? Shouldn't they at least have eliminated the leak afterwards? Why is that reporter still alive? Surely they can manage to off one humble newsreader and make it look like an accident?

This conspiracy stuff is just too absurd for words.


ETA: Oops. I see there's now an entire thread about this very subject.
 
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D'rok, in my experience with Apollo Hoaxers the answer to your question would be something akin to that it was either a mistake to prematurely hand the BBC that report, OR that it was a NWO operative who, disgusted at the operation he/she had a hand in, was trying to let the world know that something was amiss about the day's events, a whistleblower.

You see if one has already made up one's mind that there was a vast conspiracy that could include any manner of complexity or fictional devices then adding in another improbable senario presents no problem.
 
Really? Who exactly from the FDNY reported that WTC7 coillapsed to different news agencies and why didn't any of them confirm it even though they could all see a live picture of it still standing?

Yes they did, CNN did.

You didnt actually go watch it did you?


In the CNN report he reads out the information then turns around and basically says "I dont think thats right" and they cut to a close up of WTC7 still on fire but standing.

This is why you think they are genius-idiots. They give out this press release early, CNN read it out but are SO STUPID they actually cut to the building they just reported has collapsed.

Then they did it all over again with the BBC about 40 minutes later, but this time with Building 7 in the background.

Isnt it more likely that they just reported it wrong in the same way they thought a second plane hit the Pentagon, bombs exploded outside the state department, that U93 landed in Cleveland or that there was a bomb in Stuyvesant High School?

The entire reason why Gage and his truther idiots think that this claim holds any weight is that they go on the assumption that no one would suspect that WTC7 would collapse. This is a complete lie, all experts knew the building was going to collapse.

New agencies had already been reporting it could collapse earlier and we even have a firefighter saying it would on camera and all their statements afterwards confirm they knew hours in advance that WTC7 would collapse and were LITERALLY WAITING AROUND for it to happen with absolutely no dissenting opinion from any of them.

Its not like the BBC havent made stupid errors before, you know.



The BBC interviewed this guy as a computer expert even though he was just there to have a unrelated job interview. As you can see they dont even care what he is saying.
 
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D'rok, in my experience with Apollo Hoaxers the answer to your question would be something akin to that it was either a mistake to prematurely hand the BBC that report, OR that it was a NWO operative who, disgusted at the operation he/she had a hand in, was trying to let the world know that something was amiss about the day's events, a whistleblower.

You see if one has already made up one's mind that there was a vast conspiracy that could include any manner of complexity or fictional devices then adding in another improbable senario presents no problem.

If it was a mistake...they perfectly timed the planes/explosions/collapses/etc, including all the necessary prep but couldn't manage to time a news release? A shadowy cabal that is all powerful and sinister, except it can't manage the simplest bit of administration.

If it was a leak...why is the reporter still alive? She defied the will of the Grand Poobah and the entire NWO High Council. Shouldn't they sacrifice her to Moloch to appease the Lords of Chaos, or whatever it is they do with drones that displease them? They can take down the WTC, but a lowly newsreader is untouchable?

I like fantasy too, but sheesh. These folks need a reality check.
 
There are no mistakes in truther land...only conspiracy. It is on the list of "Don't exist"...


Don't Exist:
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1. Physical Evidence (DNA, Plane parts, etc...) for 9/11
2. Mistakes
3. Coincidences
4. First Responders who consider murder more important then their jobs
5. Honest Scientists at NIST
6. Honest Workers at the FBI/CIA/FEMA

(The above is a partial list only)

TAM:)
 
I was watching something on the National Geographic Channel a couple of days ago, a collection of lost (or rather, not significant or noteworthy enough to be widely used in documentaries on the subject) local news reports from the day JFK was assassinated in Dallas. I know, that's a whole other bag of conspiracy bait; still, a few things jumped out at me.

One initial report was that there was a man and a woman involved in the shooting. I can assume you're as shocked as I was to learn that we've been lied to for the last 46 years and that they are so brazen as to admit to the lie on a programme airing on basic cable at 4am because the sheeple are too busy with American Idol and Dancing with the Stars to notice what's really going on. Why is the Corporate Main Stream Control Media covering up the female shooter?
One report placed the shooter on the fourth floor of the Texas School Book Depository, not the sixth. Another report placed the shooter on the fifth floor. Clearly, this means they staged the scene on the sixth floor to fit the Official Story™ and covered up the real scenes on the fourth and fifth floors.
From Parkland Hospital, more than one reporter initially reported that Lyndon Johnson had either been shot or suffered a heart attack and was in critical condition at Parkland. Obvious media cover up, and definitive proof that Johnson was replaced by a look-alike who would be more receptive to the nWo agenda.

See how much fun it is to draw one's own conclusions from erroneous heat-of-the-moment reporting?
 
Speaking of getting things wrong. The Ft. Hood Texas shooting back a few weeks ago.

Many news networks reported that the shooter was killed. It was only till the next day (IIRC) that is was reported that he was ALIVE, and in FACT NOT dead.
 
Many news networks reported that the shooter was killed.

the CIA/Mossad agent (patsy) was killed.

the Saudi/NWO Muslim actor is still alive, to help add propaganda for Der Heilige Kriege gegen Islam!!!! (Holy War against Islam)

didn't you get the memo?
 
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Sorry to harp on this, but on what basis did Richard Gage claim that 95% of the world's architects agreed with him?
 
If it was a mistake...they perfectly timed the planes/explosions/collapses/etc, including all the necessary prep but couldn't manage to time a news release? A shadowy cabal that is all powerful and sinister, except it can't manage the simplest bit of administration.

If it was a leak...why is the reporter still alive? She defied the will of the Grand Poobah and the entire NWO High Council. Shouldn't they sacrifice her to Moloch to appease the Lords of Chaos, or whatever it is they do with drones that displease them? They can take down the WTC, but a lowly newsreader is untouchable?

I like fantasy too, but sheesh. These folks need a reality check.

Of course its actually worse than believeing in an inadvertant leak that WTC 7 had collapsed.

After all why would the supposed perpetrators even issue a statement that WTC 7 had collapsed?

WHEN a building collapses its pretty da*ed obvious. So obvious that I believe that a reporter straight out of Journalism school could have figured out that a building had collapsed and then looked around for someone to tell him what the name of the pile of rubble, that used to be a structure on that location, was called. It would hardly require a news release.

If there was a news release then it was to the effect that WTC 7 was in critical danger of collapse. Gee, what evidence do we have that this was considered likely other than practically the entire contingent of the NYFD that was on scene saying it was the case, and the fact that to prepare for that very propable possibility they set up a wide perimeter around the structure.

This entire line of contention, that the erroneous BBC report means something other than they balls'd-up the information somewhere along the line, is beyond ridiculous and enters into the realm of rampant paranoia.

A probable senario:
1)NYFD person tells a BBC or other news agency reporter that WTC 7 is in imminent danger of collapse,
2) that person passes on this info saying something like, "WTC 7 is going to come down,
3) it gets passed on again with, "WTC 7 is coming down" (the speaker does not mean this in a present tense but the vagaries of the English language does have this sentence mean either present or future tense. It must be taken in context and if the listener cannot see WTC 7 OR does not know which of the many tall buildings near the site is WTC 7 then it would be easy for that listener to assume present tense. The reporter goes on camera and states that it has come down since after all, by the time the reporter is on camera WTC 7 would be fully collapsed if that reporter had assumed it was on its way down when told of the report)

Do they check? NO, of course not, they want to get info out before anyone else. The CNN reporter, who likely lives in NY reads the report, looks at a monitor and knows that it is incorrect.

end of story................!!
 

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