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Remembering 9/11...Republican style

Lurch said:
Except when a new 'trick play' is hit upon.

So it's come down to 'hall monitors' to have to keep an eye on the little *****. Great.

Somehow I think it better to have ethical humans in the Legislature, and failing that well defined rules to enforce ethical behavior. This throwing up of hands and accepting that increased vigilance against dirty tricks be the new norm doesn't seem congruent with democratic practice.
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Do not mask swear words. Let the autocensor do its job.
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Obeying the rules is pretty ethical. The Republicans followed the rules.
 
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BobTheCoward said:
Obeying the rules is pretty ethical. The Republicans followed the rules.
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Bob would you knock it off? Ethics and "following the rules" are two separate things. This is first grade knowledge. That's why there are ethics boards in various ******* job fields that can rescind licenses to practice based on behavior. It doesn't require you doing anything illegal, just unethical. Stop this ******** line of reasoning just to garner attention. It's annoying.
 
plague311 said:
Bob would you knock it off? Ethics and "following the rules" are two separate things. This is first grade knowledge. That's why there are ethics boards in various ******* job fields that can rescind licenses to practice based on behavior. It doesn't require you doing anything illegal, just unethical. Stop this ******** line of reasoning just to garner attention. It's annoying.
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Ethics boards apply rules. The rules are less specific, but they are still rules. They publish the rules so people have a sense of what they can and cannot do.
 
johnny karate said:
And yet for some reason, House Rules Committee Chairman David Lewis didn't think there would be a vote:


Gosh, I wonder why.

And I'm also struggling with the dilemma of who to believe when Democrats claim Lewis also told them that there would be no vote, which Lewis denies. Despite the fact, of course, that he did tell a WRAL reporter there would be no vote.

I'm just hoping that a couple of Super Skeptics like mgardner and theprestige can explain what happened here.
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Segnosaur said:
Here's something you might not have known....

There is actually more than 1 part to a working day. Morning and afternoon.

If you tell someone "there will be votes" in a day, but also say "no votes in the morning", its reasonable to assume the votes will be in the afternoon.

Well, assuming the person isn't an unethical scumbag like your typical republican, when they were lying about the morning thing.
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Lurch said:
In the *afternoon*, I gather. *Not* in the morning.
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Hi theprestige - The above quoted posts were all in response to you.

Do you in turn have a response?
 
plague311 said:
Bob would you knock it off? Ethics and "following the rules" are two separate things. This is first grade knowledge. That's why there are ethics boards in various ******* job fields that can rescind licenses to practice based on behavior. It doesn't require you doing anything illegal, just unethical. Stop this ******** line of reasoning just to garner attention. It's annoying.
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If you stop providing the desired attention it would help.
 
Is North Carolina a state with full time or part time legislators? Is the expectation for them to hold down other jobs while serving weighed into the time allotments?
 
ponderingturtle said:
Is North Carolina a state with full time or part time legislators? Is the expectation for them to hold down other jobs while serving weighed into the time allotments?
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That didn't occur to me. It looks like an NC representative only gets about $14,000 a year (and is classified as hybrid: 70% of full time):

https://ballotpedia.org/Comparison_of_state_legislative_salaries

On the other hand a senator (like Alexander) makes on average $70,000, which ain't fancy, but it's enough to live on.

https://www.paysa.com/salaries/north-carolina-general-assembly--state-senator
 
Cabbage said:
That didn't occur to me. It looks like an NC representative only gets about $14,000 a year (and is classified as hybrid: 70% of full time):

https://ballotpedia.org/Comparison_of_state_legislative_salaries

On the other hand a senator (like Alexander) makes on average $70,000, which ain't fancy, but it's enough to live on.

https://www.paysa.com/salaries/north-carolina-general-assembly--state-senator
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Dann. Reps are pulling like $10/hr? Well, scratch being a State representative in North Carolina from my safety net careers. McDonald's moves up a notch
 
Thermal said:
Dann. Reps are pulling like $10/hr? Well, scratch being a State representative in North Carolina from my safety net careers. McDonald's moves up a notch
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Pretty sure the perks make up for it. There's a reason the GOP senators are so eager to cheat to keep their jobs.
 
uke2se said:
Pretty sure the perks make up for it. There's a reason the GOP senators are so eager to cheat to keep their jobs.
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If by "perks" you mean the power to shape policy and laws to the benefit of them and their fellow creatures, then certainly.
 
Lurch said:
If by "perks" you mean the power to shape policy and laws to the benefit of them and their fellow creatures, then certainly.
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...and I'm pretty sure they would be on the receiving end of some tasty thank-yous, as well. Just shocking that the pay would be so tiny for a State like NC.
 
Thermal said:
Dann. Reps are pulling like $10/hr? Well, scratch being a State representative in North Carolina from my safety net careers. McDonald's moves up a notch
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And so they have to get their law practices in in the morning sometimes if there isn't going to be a vote. But no one would ever take advantage of that.
 
ponderingturtle said:
And so they have to get their law practices in in the morning sometimes if there isn't going to be a vote. But no one would ever take advantage of that.
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I think if they do not show up when in session they are the ones taking advantage. The voluntarily take the job, know the pay, know the hours and should show up for work when they are supposed to.

I am sure the republicans are just as good at not showing up as the democrats.
 
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