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Recess appointment of Merrick Garland to the Supreme Court?

Recess appointment of Merrick Garland to the Supreme Court?

  • Yes

    Votes: 26 68.4%

  • No

    Votes: 12 31.6%
  • Total voters
    38
Their duty is to serve the American people. American interests have become mutually exclusive to Republican power plays. So, no, unless you are admitting the GOP is "party over country", they are not executing their duties.
 
Donal said:
Their duty is to serve the American people. American interests have become mutually exclusive to Republican power plays. So, no, unless you are admitting the GOP is "party over country", they are not executing their duties.
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You are assuming they think this decision is against the American people. I am confident that they would disagree.
 
zooterkin said:
Is that what it actually says? Because the vacancy is already there, it won't arise during the recess.
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" The President shall have Power to fill up all Vacancies that may happen during the Recess of the Senate, by granting Commissions which shall expire at the End of their next Session."

Even if that is not the case, the appointment expires at the end of the next Senate session. What's to stop the Senate having a one day session? Dirty politics begets dirty politics.
 
quadraginta said:
Exercising their duties would have been to actually advise and consent instead of duplicitously evading their responsibilities.
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Their advice seems very clear to me. I would say they fulfilled that more forthrightly than most things in government.
 
quadraginta said:
Exercising their duties would have been to actually advise and consent instead of duplicitously evading their responsibilities.
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They advised him that their consent would not be forthcoming. If I had my druthers, the Republicans would have had a long, drawn-out confirmation hearing, followed by a down vote for Garland if Trump won and an up vote if Hillary won. I suppose McConnell's strategy was more honest, so I can fault him for that.
 
BobTheCoward said:
Their advice seems very clear to me. I would say they fulfilled that more forthrightly than most things in government.
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Excuses.

Forthright would have been to hold a hearing on his fitness and qualifications.

They didn't want to do that because there isn't any way they could have spun his record into anything remotely unacceptable.

So they took the coward's route and did nothing, while trying to pretty it up with transparent and patently duplicitous excuses.
 
quadraginta said:
Excuses.

Forthright would have been to hold a hearing on his fitness and qualifications.

They didn't want to do that because there isn't any way they could have spun his record into anything remotely unacceptable.

So they took the coward's route and did nothing, while trying to pretty it up with transparent and patently duplicitous excuses.
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Having hearings when you have already determined your decision is the opposite of forthright.

(of a person or their manner or speech) direct and outspoken; straightforward and honest.
"his most forthright attack yet on the reforms"
synonyms: frank, direct, straightforward, honest, candid, open, sincere, outspoken, straight, blunt, plain-spoken, no-nonsense, downright, bluff, matter-of-fact, to the point; informalupfront
"a forthright statement to the press about her involvement in the cover-up"
 
BobTheCoward said:
You are assuming they think this decision is against the American people. I am confident that they would disagree.
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Ya, because they lie.

Our 2 choices seem to be "corrupt to the point of committing borderline treason" and "delusional as a suicide bomber". Either way, McConnell, Cruz, and all of their followers are not fit to hold their offices.
 
Donal said:
Ya, because they lie.

Our 2 choices seem to be "corrupt to the point of committing borderline treason" and "delusional as a suicide bomber". Either way, McConnell, Cruz, and all of their followers are not fit to hold their offices.
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I will gladly accept delusional as a suicide bomber. That still means they are doing their job in a manner that they think is best for the country.
 
I can deal with greed. At least they have an objective you can appeal to. Fanaticism is too much of a wild card.
 
BobTheCoward said:
Having hearings when you have already determined your decision is the opposite of forthright.

(of a person or their manner or speech) direct and outspoken; straightforward and honest.
"his most forthright attack yet on the reforms"
synonyms: frank, direct, straightforward, honest, candid, open, sincere, outspoken, straight, blunt, plain-spoken, no-nonsense, downright, bluff, matter-of-fact, to the point; informalupfront
"a forthright statement to the press about her involvement in the cover-up"
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Silly word games.

Hearings are a legislative process. There can be no results until that process is followed.

Anything else is just political posturing.
 
quadraginta said:
Silly word games.

Hearings are a legislative process. There can be no results until that process is followed.

Anything else is just political posturing.
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I'm sorry that you think of carefully choosing words because they have specific meaning is a word game to you.

Choosing not to have hearings is also the process. There was a result with the Garland issue.
 
BobTheCoward said:
I'm sorry that you think of carefully choosing words because they have specific meaning is a word game to you.

Choosing not to have hearings is also the process. There was a result with the Garland issue.
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Help me out, here. Please cite the references you are using to show that refusing to perform the duties assigned to them by the Constitution is part of the legislative process.

It looks a lot more like stonewalling for partisan political gain.
 
quadraginta said:
Help me out, here. Please cite the references you are using to show that refusing to perform the duties assigned to them by the Constitution is part of the legislative process.

It looks a lot more like stonewalling for partisan political gain.
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They performed their duty. They have forthrightly advised the president they will not be providing their consent on his nominee.
 
BobTheCoward said:
They performed their duty. They have forthrightly advised the president they will not be providing their consent on his nominee.
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Refusing to consider with no regard for the qualifications of the nominee is nowhere near any kind of forthright. Your definition of 'forthrightly' is somewhat non-forthright.
 
fishbob said:
Refusing to consider with no regard for the qualifications of the nominee is nowhere near any kind of forthright. Your definition of 'forthrightly' is somewhat non-forthright.
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I provided the definition of forthright. Holding hearings after they already had a plan would not be forthright. I think people are mixing it with principled or upstanding.

Here is that definition again.

(of a person or their manner or speech) direct and outspoken; straightforward and honest.
"his most forthright attack yet on the reforms"
synonyms: frank, direct, straightforward, honest, candid, open, sincere, outspoken, straight, blunt, plain-spoken, no-nonsense, downright, bluff, matter-of-fact, to the point; informalupfront
"a forthright statement to the press about her involvement in the cover-up"
 
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