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T'ai Chi said:
Many people make money for their services. So?
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Yes, but when those people make huge amounts of money based on a misrepresentation of what they are doing, that is a scam. She does not present herself as a costly entertainer, she presents herself as a legitimate psychic able to help solve crimes.

Now, perhaps you will take issue and say that she is legitimate (or serves some other positive purpose). I can't say, because I don't know you and where you stand on this.

However, I would say that if she indeed has the ability to converse with the dead, or locate the missing, or anything else that police psychics claim, then she should be able to perform some substantial useful service to back those claims up.

And yet, we still pay our detectives and FBI agents. We still have trouble finding the missing, or locating bodies, or catching murderers. If this woman has the ability to see who committed a crime and does nothing to catch them, then she is aiding them in their crime. If, however, her "powers" only allow her to make vague educated guesses about bodies being buried near roads and murderers being white and male, then I think her "powers" are useless. I am capable of making such guesses, and I do not claim to have special abilities.

If these powers are real, why have no police departments credited psychics with helping them solve real crimes? Why has the FBI not developed a psychic investigator unit? Why is there no scientific evidence and the million dollars still unwon?

This woman sells false hope and lies for a dear price, and it is sickening to me.
 
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Elizabeth I said:
I also noticed this article was in a newspaper from the Philippines, the home of many of the "psychic surgeons."
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The author of the article knows all about "psychic surgeons"...

http://j.licauco.tripod.com/bks.html

The Truth Behind Faith Healing in the Philippines by Jaime T. Licauco, National Book Store Inc., 1980.

Philippine faith healing with its fantastic and controversial bare-handed, painless operation ("psychic surgery") has become a worldwide phenomenon. Psychic surgery is a fact. Although belonging to an order of reality not fully understood nor accepted by present-day science, it is not to say that such a reality does not exist.
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CFLarsen said:
While others find it quite acceptable.
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I have no doubt that they would. There is still a booming market for homeopathy, astrology, reflexology, talking to the dead, and psychic hotlines.

People are entitled to their delusions, but her line about being able to help with crimes needs to be substantiated or removed. I see little difference between that kind of behavior and the people claiming you can treat cancer with herbs.
 
T'ai Chi said:
Many people make money for their services. So?
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I just think it's funny how the "psychics" have so much trouble stating exactly what it is they can do...

"Soul evaluations" are never a neat package and a simple protocol.

http://www.nancyorlenweber.com/sessions.html
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Yet they have no problem slapping a nice round monetary figure on their "services"...

Session fees: Phone sessions - $110/half hour and $200/hour - Taping session include $5

In Person sessions - $110/half hour and $200/hour - sessions are audio taped in person
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It just seems strange that something which is so difficult to quantify scientifically, should be so easy to define monetarily.
 
Gr8wight said:
The writer mentions an alleged scientific study of telekenesis in which people attempted to influence the outcome of a dice roll in a game of roulette. How do you suppose that study came out?
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This is actually true... they have been conducting these experiments in the Nevada desert for over fifty years now. The studies are large scale, and very well-funded. The experiments have been amazingly successful... for the casino owners.
 
Gr8wight said:
The writer mentions an alleged scientific study of telekenesis in which people attempted to influence the outcome of a dice roll in a game of roulette. How do you suppose that study came out?
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Well I was concentrating really hard for my double six to land on twenty-two red.

That's how they play in Vegas, isn't it?
 
Gr8wight said:
The writer mentions an alleged scientific study of telekenesis in which people attempted to influence the outcome of a dice roll in a game of roulette. How do you suppose that study came out?
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There was apparently a case in which the English Attorney-General told the House of Lords that "roulette is a game played with cards". The reply from one of the judges was, er, monosyllabic.
 
The author also believes in "orbs"... although rather than spirits, he believes they are extraterrestrials. How does he know? Because when he blows up the images, he can see a "very clear image of an ET's face".

http://showbizandstyle.inq7.net/lifestyle/lifestyle/view_article.php?article_id=17696

I don't think there's much the author doesn't believe. It's no wonder he hates people that try to ruin his magical fantasy land.
 
VespaGuy said:
The author also believes in "orbs"... although rather than spirits, he believes they are extraterrestrials. How does he know? Because when he blows up the images, he can see a "very clear image of an ET's face".

http://showbizandstyle.inq7.net/lifestyle/lifestyle/view_article.php?article_id=17696

I don't think there's much the author doesn't believe. It's no wonder he hates people that try to ruin his magical fantasy land.
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Did you catch this one?

http://showbizandstyle.inq7.net/lifestyle/lifestyle/view_article.php?article_id=16505

In the late ’80s, I observed a poor man named Estong materialize coins from his mouth on the streets of Edsa Central in Mandaluyong City. Bus and jeepney drivers would give him, for example, 25-centavo coins. He would put the coin in his empty mouth and when he opened it, a one-peso coin had replaced the 25-centavo coin.
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A "poor man" who can convert quarters into dollars.

Oh... the irony. :rolleyes:
 
This is like the old "Jaguar is 32-bit" threads on r.g.v.a. Its GPU was 64-bit, but losers kept posting the same garbage over and over and over and over and over and over (no cut-and-paste there).

Either he's trolling, or he can't face the music.
 
ON the issue of money for psychic services:

Let's compare to what, in a criminal case, would be the most similar non-woo profession: a private investigator.

Psychic:
1. More expensive
2. Information gained tends to be vague, with no logical chain leading to it
3. Information gained is inadmissible in a court of law
4. Records are rarely kept
5. Charges are generally unspecific (i.e.-you're billed for hours, with little to no accountability of what the pyschic was doing during that time).
6. Results are often less-than-spectacular, and there is no clear "end point" to investigation (no such thing as a psychic running out of leads).

Private Investigator
1. $200 a day can get you a pretty good P.I. $200 and hour can get you one of the best.
2. Information gained varies, but will have provenence (i.e.- you know where it came from and there's a logical chain of reasoning leading to it).
3. Information gained properly and treated correctly is admissible in court, as is the testimony of the PI himself.
4. A Decent P.I. will keep meticulous records, including investigation notes, photos, videotapes, computer logs, and similar data.
5. Records kept are similar to those of a lawyer, with itemized expenses and accoutning for actions during billable hours.
6. No garauntee of getting useful info, but there is a clear "end point" at which there are no more leads to follow, and you are no longer paying for unproductive time.

Which sounds like the better deal?
 
Huntsman said:
2. Information gained tends to be vague, with no logical chain leading to it
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A guy called Chris Morehouse did an experiment comparing three psychic mediums and six students (some studying criminology, iirc) and found that the information of the psychic was no better than the others guessing, but with a lot more reliance on rhetoric.

Rhetoric doesn't come cheap, obviously.
 
Huntsman said:
Which sounds like the better deal?
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Well obviously the psychic. You see, the investigator relies on boring, real-world logic and reason, while the psychic relies on exciting and sexy magic!

Logic is time consuming and may not produce results. Magic is instant, and always delivers!

Yay magic!
 
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