Rainbow crosswalks

[Jack by the hedge]

I bet you're one of those splitters that think Pluto isn't a planet!

No, I have no problem with Pluto being a planet. It's actually there after all.

The categorisation of colours is more arbitrary. If you're going to have a named colour between blue and violet why not another between red and orange, called amber?

 

[theprestige]

According to…?

Me. Don't use the roadways as political billboards, exclusively or not. (And the "exclusively" was more metaphorical, pointing at Myriad's weird double-standard about roadways as political billboards.

 

[JayUtah]

Me.

Sounds like you're the one with the problem then.

 

[theprestige]

Sounds like you're the one with the problem then.

I do have a problem with people using roadways as billboards. I thought that was pretty clear, and I'd be a little concerned if it didn't sound like I had a problem.

 

[JayUtah]

I do have a problem with people using roadways as billboards.

The problem with your problem is that you seem to want your personal hangups to be the standard by which people who are the victims of others' cruel behavior are judged for—how did you put it?—"losing their ◊◊◊◊." I would be more interested in your opinion if it weren't so dogmatic.

 

[AmyStrange]

The problem with your problem is that you seem to want your personal hangups to be the standard by which people who are the victims of others' cruel behavior are judged for—how did you put it?—"losing their ◊◊◊◊." I would be more interested in your opinion if it weren't so dogmatic.

Well said, but I do wonder when being gay became a political thing?

 

[arthwollipot]

Hardly anybody knows wtf indigo is anyway except for being a thing you say when you're chanting the colours of the rainbow.

Indigo only exists because Isaac Newton thought the number 7 was magic.

 

[johnny karate]

Me. Don't use the roadways as political billboards, exclusively or not. (And the "exclusively" was more metaphorical, pointing at Myriad's weird double-standard about roadways as political billboards.

Anyone who thinks a rainbow crosswalk is some kind of controversial political statement is a hateful bigot desperately in need of a more constructive hobby.

Reactions from normal people range from “That’s nice” to “I don’t really care what color the crosswalk is”.

 

[Myriad]

Me. Don't use the roadways as political billboards, exclusively or not. (And the "exclusively" was more metaphorical, pointing at Myriad's weird double-standard about roadways as political billboards.

I couldn't care less about roadways as political billboards. I'm grateful my town can afford to repaint the normal crosswalks in normal ways once in a while. Most real towns can't. What I care about is tactics to counter official perforative hatred that's wearing the transparent disguise of law and order or public safety.

You realize the Bostonians of 1773 didn't actually hate tea, right?

 

[Mojo]

Progressives: "Haha we'll paint their holy symbol on the street, and they'll lose their minds at the thought of erasing it!"

Also Progressives: "We painted our holy symbol on the street, and don't you dare try to erase it or we'll lose our minds!"

Conservatives: "They changed the Cracker Barrel logo!!! WAAAAAAAA!!!"

 

[Helen]

I suppose I have to accept that the rainbow flag/symbol is considered political in the US, and amongst alt-righties here and elsewhere, but it seems really strange to me - why would celebrating human rights for groups of people who have been marginalised and shunned, and even criminalised, be a divisive issue? (Yes, I know, I know, I am naive. And prolly stupid as well. And idealistic. And unrealistic.) (Oh, and woke, of course. Forgot about that one. But I am also right.)

 

[Mojo]

I suppose I have to accept that the rainbow flag/symbol is considered political in the US, and amongst alt-righties here and elsewhere, but it seems really strange to me - why would celebrating human rights for groups of people who have been marginalised and shunned, and even criminalised, be a divisive issue?

Because the Right believe that people they don't like shouldn't have human rights.

 

[ahhell]

I suppose I have to accept that the rainbow flag/symbol is considered political in the US, and amongst alt-righties here and elsewhere, but it seems really strange to me - why would celebrating human rights for groups of people who have been marginalised and shunned, and even criminalised, be a divisive issue? (Yes, I know, I know, I am naive. And prolly stupid as well. And idealistic. And unrealistic.) (Oh, and woke, of course. Forgot about that one. But I am also right.)

This is fairly silly but common. Folks can't understand why the symbols of their ideology are political.

Is flying a confederate flag political? There's a bunch of folks that think its just about southern pride. Most everyone else thinks its about racism.
The rainbow flag is a lot more than just celebrating human rights. I'm reminded of the "feminism is just about equal rights for everyone." First, if that were true you could just call it humanism but it's also about the SCUM manifesto. Some folks think conservativism is just about understanding that generations have come up with systems for a reason and we ought to figure what those reasons are before we change things. Others think its about racism, sexism, and homophobia.

We can ignore the way others perceive our symbols and labels but that would be rather shortsighted.

 

[ahhell]

Because the Right believe that people they don't like shouldn't have human rights.

Same is true for a lot of folks on the left. The mostly justify it by saying we think X are subhuman because of their beliefs, but the dehumanization is still there.

ETA: For instance, its far more common on this forum to say things like, "The right........" as though they all agree. No point in understanding the differences because they must all think my people don't deserve human rights.

 

[Lithrael]

Yet I regularly see grassroots pushback on the left against dehumanization, reminding fellow travelers that it's Nazi ◊◊◊◊, and don't be like Nazis (and also Nazis are human).

Not least because it blinds you to any evil actions of your allies, if you've decided people who do sufficiently bad things are inhuman. Your allies are human so how could they possibly do inhuman things? etc

 

[AmyStrange]

This is fairly silly but common. Folks can't understand why the symbols of their ideology are political.

Is flying a confederate flag political? There's a bunch of folks that think its just about southern pride. Most everyone else thinks its about racism.
The rainbow flag is a lot more than just celebrating human rights. I'm reminded of the "feminism is just about equal rights for everyone." First, if that were true you could just call it humanism but it's also about the SCUM manifesto. Some folks think conservativism is just about understanding that generations have come up with systems for a reason and we ought to figure what those reasons are before we change things. Others think its about racism, sexism, and homophobia.

We can ignore the way others perceive our symbols and labels but that would be rather shortsighted.

There's a difference between a confederate flag and a rainbow crosswalk, especially at the Pulse Nightclub shooting site in Orlando, but go ahead and pretend it's political. It just goes to prove how ridiculously naive one is unless you feel looking at a pride flag will turn you gay.

Good luck with that.

 

[ahhell]

There's a difference between a confederate flag and a rainbow crosswalk, especially at the Pulse Nightclub shooting site in Orlando, but go ahead and pretend it's political. It just goes to prove how ridiculously naive one is unless you feel looking at a pride flag will turn you gay.

Good luck with that.

That accurately reflects my views on the matter.

 

[Helen]

This is fairly silly but common. Folks can't understand why the symbols of their ideology are political.

Is flying a confederate flag political? There's a bunch of folks that think its just about southern pride. Most everyone else thinks its about racism.
The rainbow flag is a lot more than just celebrating human rights. I'm reminded of the "feminism is just about equal rights for everyone." First, if that were true you could just call it humanism but it's also about the SCUM manifesto. Some folks think conservativism is just about understanding that generations have come up with systems for a reason and we ought to figure what those reasons are before we change things. Others think its about racism, sexism, and homophobia.

We can ignore the way others perceive our symbols and labels but that would be rather shortsighted.

Yes, flying a confederate flag is political; we are after all talking about a political and military movement that existed to keep slavery from being abolished. Human rights, as I said, ought not to be a political movement, but has apparently become one to the right. The rainbow flag is not a political flag; people of all creeds are included amongst those it celebrates. The bigoted right have turned it into a political issue. It is not. Your sexuality has nothing to do with your political ideology. Feminism (includuing your straw version), on the other hand is a political movement.

 

[ahhell]

It's a political movement you agree with so you seem to be incapable of seeing that it's a political movement. The southern who says the confederate flag is just a statement of pride would say it shouldn't be political either. The gadsden flag isn't political its just a symbol of American Pride but it has apparently become one to the left.

People of all creeds are included? What about those that don't think gay marriage shouldn't be the equivalent of straight marriage? Devout Muslims? Devout Catholics? My version of feminism? I didn't write the SCUM manifesto.

I agree that your sexuality shouldn't have anything to do with your ideology, tends to be the left that's confused by gay conservatives though.

 

[ahhell]

There's a difference between a confederate flag and a rainbow crosswalk, especially at the Pulse Nightclub shooting site in Orlando, but go ahead and pretend it's political. It just goes to prove how ridiculously naive one is unless you feel looking at a pride flag will turn you gay.

Good luck with that.

Perfect example of the progressive inability to understand folks that disagree with them. I think its pretty obvious that the rainbow flag is a political symbol therefore I'm afraid that seeing it will turn me gay. Then I say in obvious sarcasm this accurately reflects my views, and the obvious sarcasm is missed.

The notion that a symbol of the correct view is not political because its correct is....IDK....typical.

ETA: Its also a stupid and misplaced political statement outside the pulse night club. That was not a homophobic attack it was an anti-American Islamist attack by a guy who didn't even know it was a gay club.