Fair enough; it just seemed an odd way to have a dig at football, since it plainly is a professional sport (3 of the 5 highest paid athletes in 2020 are football players, apparently). Second rate is a matter of opinion, of course.
Racism or misunderstanding?
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Fair enough; it just seemed an odd way to have a dig at football, since it plainly is a professional sport (3 of the 5 highest paid athletes in 2020 are football players, apparently). Second rate is a matter of opinion, of course.
But that's all moot, since the original comment was in Romanian, not English.
More of a dig at American inability to grasp the breadth of football as explained by Ron.
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I haven't. It's actually just about the only sport I watch regularly these days.
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If there are two people standing there, you card one of them, and the person recording it says "which one" I am likely to say "the black one" or "the white one" because I tend to adopt other people's speech habits when talking to them. I am also likely to use the word "guy" in place of "one."
I think in this case the "one" represents a choice of players. Not racist at all.
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The Guardian's Football Weekly podcast addressed the issue today, with a black former footballer trying to explain why it was so terrible. Nobody else seemed very convinced, and the commenters (unbelievably, the Guardian opened comments on this article) weren't on board either.
When you've lost the Grauniad readers on an issue of racism, you must be really over the top.
Of course my lingerie matches, but that seems like something to discuss privately.
OK.. It's too much. The suspense is killing me.
Did the visitor find Terry and were they there to tell him they were carrying his baby after that crazy one night stand at the swapping keys, blindfolded, swinger party?
And did Terry man up. Own it and call the kid Terry junior?
Did the visitor find Terry and were they there to tell him they were carrying his baby after that crazy one night stand at the swapping keys, blindfolded, swinger party?
And did Terry man up. Own it and call the kid Terry junior?
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I would think it's fine to use any descriptor that isn't considered offensive. I don't really see 'black' as offensive, although adding 'one' at the end doesn't help. Seems like a stretch in most settings to actively avoid using it though.
It can also be true that adding that in when it isn't necessary isn't a good look..
It can also be true that adding that in when it isn't necessary isn't a good look..
Vixen
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FIFY. So not, 'the white'?
Obviously you are going to call him by an offensive name whether he likes it or not.
Vixen
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Why was this official officiating at international matches speaking Romanian?
BTW 'Black' is an adjective not a noun.
Maybe because he is Romanian.
Of course not...... he's black! It's on the babymummy now.
The clue is the word before "matches" and black is an adjective and a noun from memory.
As in financially they are in the black
What else would you expect a Romanian to speak?
What does that have to do with anything I, or indeed anyone else, said? It's also factually incorrect, since 'black' can be a noun, adjective or verb.
Vixen
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What else would you expect a Romanian to speak?
It's also factually incorrect, since 'black' can be a noun, adjective or verb.
Because people (not you in particular) keep saying all the official was doing was trying to describe the guy. You don't describe people as 'the Black'. So maybe there is a training gap in his communication skills.
I am personally struggling to see what point you are trying to make.
Since he was speaking Romanian, at no point did he say, "the Black".
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It's just one of those witch hunts (more and more often seen lately) made possible by the current brand of 'progressivism' and the culture of victimization it creates. Coltescu, the referee, may have broken some UEFA rules - he should have used English or chose other words in Romanian to identify the official of the Turkish side to avoid possible problems - but it is patently absurd to accuse him of racism.
As a Romanian I can certify that the Romanian word for black is 'negru' , the real problem is way less him than the widespread culture of victimization among minorities and the never-ending multiplication of 'racism' , even minor things are 'racism' these days. Finally to claim that identifying a black guy among a group of whites as 'the black one' (what the referee said in Romanian) is racism is absurd, we do this naturally many times in similar situations, if this is 'racism' then everything we say to a black person is racism.
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