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Questions for Lucianarchy

So you demand others to provide evidence for their claims, but you are telling us you are refusing to provide evidence for your claim of:

"Very similar ISPs."

???

That's kind of confusing, Claus. Maybe you could clear it up for us.



OOps, I pressed cntrl C and cntrl v by mistake. ;)
 
T'ai Chi said:
So you demand others to provide evidence for their claims, but you are telling us you are refusing to provide evidence for your claim of:

"Very similar ISPs."

???

That's kind of confusing, Claus. Maybe you could clear it up for us.



OOps, I pressed cntrl C and cntrl v by mistake. ;)
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Obviously, for privacy reasons, Claus cannot disclose the IPs or how he got them.

Very similar IPs: When you use a dial-up connection, your ISP's proxy server assigns a random IP to you each time you log on, but each proxy has only a certain range of IP addresses to assign from. So, considering the general geographical spread of people here, two posters consistently using IPs from the same range is evidence that they might be the same person. On the other hand, they might just live close to each other.

Hans
 
MRC_Hans said:
Obviously, for privacy reasons, Claus cannot disclose the IPs or how he got them.

Hans
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Claus knew that he would be asked to provide evidence for his claim. Yet he made the claim and when he was challenged to provide the evidence he replied that the issue is pending. If the issue is pending he must remove the claim from his list until he has sufficient evidence to present.

As for the similar IPs he has to know the IP that Luci uses to post here in order to prove that we are talking about the same Lucianarchy and I have been asking him. Does he know the IP Luci uses to post here and if yes how?
 
Cleopatra said:
Claus knew that he would be asked to provide evidence for his claim. Yet he made the claim and when he was challenged to provide the evidence he replied that the issue is pending. If the issue is pending he must remove the claim from his list until he has sufficient evidence to present.
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It's a question. I asked Lucianarchy, I got a reply, I am still looking into it.

Cleopatra said:
As for the similar IPs he has to know the IP that Luci uses to post here in order to prove that we are talking about the same Lucianarchy and I have been asking him. Does he know the IP Luci uses to post here and if yes how?
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No, I don't have to know the IP that Lucianarchy uses here. E.g., it is clear that the Lucianarchy who posts on Fortean Times and on SurvivalScience is the same Lucianarchy that posts here. (Please note that I am not saying that I know Lucianarchy's IP address there, though.)

If you want to question the identity of Lucianarchy on those boards, then you also have to question the identity of me posting there. I don't see you do that, though.
 
CFLarsen said:
It's a question. I asked Lucianarchy, I got a reply, I am still looking into it.
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It is not a question, it is an accusation.You should remove it from your list.
No, I don't have to know the IP that Lucianarchy uses here. E.g., it is clear that the Lucianarchy who posts on Fortean Times and on SurvivalScience is the same Lucianarchy that posts here. (Please note that I am not saying that I know Lucianarchy's IP address there, though.)
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You are bringing other fora here and you ask me to judge posters of this forum based on their posts in fora I do not even know their existence.This is not necessary. I have freaked out enough with what Lucianarchy posts here.As everybody else I am in the position to understand some things.

You have to know what IP Lucianarchy uses here in order that you are certain. You know very well that you cannot admit that you know the IP he uses here without admitting that you hacked the forum( since people corrected me that hacking and not stealing is the right word).

If you want to question the identity of Lucianarchy on those boards, then you also have to question the identity of me posting there. I don't see you do that, though.
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What? Please don't do that. Don't get surreal. You brought the issue here.
 
Cleopatra said:
It is not a question, it is an accusation.You should remove it from your list.
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Who is spinning now? It's a question.

Cleopatra said:
You are bringing other fora here and you ask me to judge posters of this forum based on their posts in fora I do not even know their existence.This is not necessary. I have freaked out enough with what Lucianarchy posts here.As everybody else I am in the position to understand some things.

You have to know what IP Lucianarchy uses here in order that you are certain. You know very well that you cannot admit that you know the IP he uses here without admitting that you hacked the forum( since people corrected me that hacking and not stealing is the right word).
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I do not have to have Lucianarchy's IP from here.

Cleopatra said:
What? Please don't do that. Don't get surreal. You brought the issue here.
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It's not surreal at all. How do you determine who is who on different boards?
 
Claus you accuse Lucianarchy for having posted in another forum an invitation to people to bring down Randi's forum. What makes you believe that it's Lucianarchy that posts here who wrote that post there?
 
Perhaps I can relieve the tedium for relative newbies by pointing out that for a brief moment, IP adresses were posted here. There was an outcry and the practice was stopped. TVtalkshows did the same thing.
 
Cleopatra,

That particular post (and the following ones - hint, hint) is classic Lucianarchy. The tone and the content points to him. In fact, it is by far the worst I have seen from L's hand, so I'm not sure why he is so terrified of it.

How do you determine if two persons posting two different places are the same? A personal confession? Similar IPs? How?
 
I don't know how to identify posters in different fora but I do know how I identify sock-puppets here. Each person's writing style has a different rhythm and each of us is stuck to some patterns that it seems that is unable to get over them. Although I am rarely wrong I cannot prove it and the only thing I can do is spot it and discuss it with other posters.

The nature of the post in question doesn't permit us even to re-post it if we are not a 100% certain. You brought the argument of the IP and this creates more questions especially because Lucianarchy denies that he has posted this thing.
 
Cleopatra,

Of course we can repost it, provided we do not claim that it is Lucianarchy.

Which I don't.
 
It's interesting to note that the majority of honest, real skeptics here are women.

It's interesting to note, because Claus is evidently quite a misogynist.
 
CFLarsen said:
Cleopatra,

(cough)...where do I say that I know Lucianarchy's IP from here?

I really don't understand why this sentence:

"I did not obtain Lucianarchy's IP address from the JREF board."

is so hard to understand. Apparently it is, so if someone with a better grasp of English could please rewrite it, so Cleopatra, tamiO et al can understand it?

Because I, for one, am done with this nonsense.
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So therefore CFLarsen you don't have evidence to back up the claim atm (apparantly pending evidence),

Oh what to do?...withdraw the claim perhaps? Cleopatra's suggestion is ignored, so therefore she keeps pressing for evidence as you have not withdrawn the claim.
 
Lucianarchy said:
It's interesting to note that the majority of honest, real skeptics here are women.

It's interesting to note, because Claus is evidently quite a misogynist.
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Good point, Luci. But I've thought for some time that Claus Flodin is most likey gay. I've suspected that ever since he used to post as "Cantata" over at TVTALK. After all, what real man would use THAT moniker? So you see, it makes sense. Gay men think more like women.
 
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