RationalReverend
And this is based on what? The absurdities contained in the bible, YHWH must be a real joker.
Good argument thanks for opening my eyes.
From the level of discourse you’ve so far posted
The author of Ecclesiastes may very well have held a Geocentric viewpoint, but the point of the text is not to declare the veracity of the Geocentric viewpoint, but to make a point about the continuance of the age. The argument isn't whether the Bible uses Geocentric language, it clearly does, and moreover that language reflects the Near Eastern Cosmology, the argument is that while that language is used it is not used to teach, but to convey some other idea. For Example: Before the foundations of the earth were laid, you were chosen. The point of such a statement would not be that the earth rests on pillars, but rather that even before their was an earth God had a plan for you. (Note: the sentence used above is not a direct quote of a Bible passage, but is just used for convenience sake.) In that way the text makes a literal point using language we would not interpret literally. For more information on how we do this and how we tell, look up Hermeneutics, the Grammatical-Historical Method, etc.
It’s rather apparent that you cherry pick and declare the bible to say one thing but mean another. Even if a simple reading of the verse proves you wrong.
Because repentance is the quality of a genuine Christian,
Where is this explicitly declared?
a Christian who sins indiscriminately and without repentance and remorse is not a Christian at all.
No true Scotsman. Or do you have some magic Christian sense?
Christians have an obligation to obey the teachings of Christ, as the text says "Deny yourself, take up your cross, and follow me."
It also mentions dusting off your shoes and continuing forward? So shouldn’t people only be exposed to Christianity once then never have to deal with it again, if that is what they wish?
This is a fallacious argument because it assumes their are people who can never understand and that therefore God must not want to be heard.
Nope. According to the majority of Christian doctrine, god designed all people to be that way. How many billions of examples of people that can never understand do you want? How about the entire native population of South America between approximately 350 C.E. and 1500 C.E.?
Even those ignorant on their own can be instructed and taught, which is what the church is supposed to do. Again, your demand for universal language or for God to take hold of minds is an unfair standard by which to judge revelation.
Based on what? The only way to heaven is through Jesus, according to the bible. That means that everyone born prior to Jesus is doomed to hell. Everyone born during the time of Jesus but not having the benefit of directly interacting with him is doomed to hell and that 9/10 of the world’s population since that time is going to hell. Overall a rather conservative estimate, it expands if you limit it to one particular denomination/sect of Christianity instead of everyone that declares themselves a Christian.
If you go with the tri-omni god then this is all god’s fault because YHWH set the whole thing up this way from the very beginning, has the power to change it, but doesn’t.
You are directly contradicting the bible. Both Matthew 1:2-16 v. Luke 3:23-38 specifically (in translation and the original text) proclaim that the line is through Joseph.
No I'm not, in Luke Joseph is the son of Heli by his marriage to Mary. Heli is his father-in law. Notice in Matthew his father is named Jacob. Mystery solved.
Nope, look at a direct translation the word used is for father not father-in-law.
If either lineage (they’re both different) reported in the bible for Jesus is correct then God directly excluded Jesus from the Davidic lineage. Which in and of itself negates Jesus as the messiah.
I'm trying to figure out why you would say this as David is in both lineages....Luke 3:31-32 and Matthew 1:6
But the link from Joseph to David is broken by direct edict of YHWH forever banning the line from Davidic descent.
The Bible has a multitude of witnesses, I would not call their minor variations contradictions (dun dun dunnnnnnn). And frankly, most discrepancies are easily explained through copying errors. However, if you want to view the difference in numbers of rooster crows as evidence of contradiction, then go ahead, that is your prerogative.
No need to get that pedantic. How many apostles were present when Jesus returned and ascended to heaven and what was the order of events after the burial?
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I did. It does not address the point raised.
Take them friggen scales off your eyes and wake up.
Why don't you put up the messianic prophecies up here am I suppose to do everything for you!
What scales? I am awake. You’re the one that has claimed Jesus was the messiah (Christ) therefore the burden of proof is squarely on your shoulders.
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