Questions about Diabetes?

Kumar said:
That is common understanding that Sulfur Containing R-Group a.a Cysteine, Methionine are there. But, what are their role & relation to diabetes? What is the role of disulfide bonds in insulin? Is sulphur freed on insulin usages?

"Glutathione concentrations in liver and lung fall when food intake or sulphur amino acid intake is inadequate. However, concentrations may be restored during inflammation, despite anorexia, provided that prior sulphur amino acid intake is adequate."
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=9093011&dopt=Abstract

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Perhaps, Kumar, you might care to explain what you have just posted here? What does this mean TO YOU?
 
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Hello,

I was bit away.

You may visit this site to gain some knowledge. It looks excess blood glucose & excess insulin levels(induced, injected, natural or due to IR) are two differant reasons for macrovascular & microvascular complications in diabetes.

Can you comment/contribute on this?
 
It looks like you have been pasting your questions on that forum, too. And you got exactly the same answers as here.

As for your last question: No, it does not look like raised insulin levels are a reason for diabetes complications. Raised BG levels are. Other contributers are lipids, smoking, body weight, exercise. But not insulin.

Btw: Insulin does not cause diabetic complications.

.... Did I mention that insulin does not cause diabetic complications?

Hans
 
Mr.Hans,

But he informs that excess glucose & excess insulin are the reason of macro & microvascular complication respectively. Pls read the definition of these two types of complications in one of my posting & understand the aspect.
 
Kumar said:
Mr.Hans,

But he informs that excess glucose & excess insulin are the reason of macro & microvascular complication respectively. Pls read the definition of these two types of complications in one of my posting & understand the aspect.
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No, he does not. And if he did, he would be wrong.

Now, try to get this: When insulin resistance is developed, the resultant increased insuling level might play some minor role in the delopement of complications, but it is NOT the cause of the problem, it is an effect of the problem.

And any effect from insulin must be negligible since it is a fact that type 2 diabetics with a well-regulated BG don't get complications, even if their insulin level is raised to achieve regulation.

Kumar, you are flogging a thoroughly dead horse.

Hans
 
MRC_Hans said:
No, he does not. And if he did, he would be wrong.

Now, try to get this: When insulin resistance is developed, the resultant increased insuling level might play some minor role in the delopement of complications, but it is NOT the cause of the problem, it is an effect of the problem.

And any effect from insulin must be negligible since it is a fact that type 2 diabetics with a well-regulated BG don't get complications, even if their insulin level is raised to achieve regulation.

Kumar, you are flogging a thoroughly dead horse.

Hans
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Mr.Hans

There can be persistant increased levels of insulin & BG in IR condition which can cause hyperinsulinemia's complications. Whether this persistant higher level of insulin is natural or induced due to medications/injected insulin is to be understood?
He says microvascular complications are less common in type1 cases. But these are mentioned same in both types at: Type 1 diabetes, Type 2 diabetes
 
Kumar said:
Mr.Hans

There can be persistant increased levels of insulin & BG in IR condition which can cause hyperinsulinemia's complications. Whether this persistant higher level of insulin is natural or induced due to medications/injected insulin is to be understood?
He says microvascular complications are less common in type1 cases. But these are mentioned same in both types at: Type 1 diabetes, Type 2 diabetes
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:s2:

Wha..hey...it's like I'm Rip van Winkel, except this time 100 years have passed and nothing's changed.
 
Kumar said:
Hello,

I was bit away.
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Not long enough IMHO
Kumar said:

You may visit this site to gain some knowledge.

Can you comment/contribute on this?
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I see that you are pumping Dr Andrew Chung for information.

Kumar: "Pls inform me accordingly."
Dr Chung: "Please consider yourself informed."

(poor ignorant fool, ...such naivety, gullibility and innocence....how little does he know!)


Usually I wouldn't ask anyone to read a Kumar thread, but his is a cracker. Having K and Chung (the servant to the humblest person in the universe) is almost as good as rouser v kumar, I bet
 
Kumar: Isn't this piece of cloth blue?
Hans: No, it's red.
Kumar: Isn't this piece of cloth blue?
Deetee: No, it's red.
Kumar: Isn't this piece of cloth blue?
Badly Shaved Monkey: No, it's red.
Kumar: Isn't this piece of cloth blue?
Rolfe: No, it's red.
Kumar: Isn't this piece of cloth blue?
ThirdTwin: No, it's red.
Kumar: Isn't this piece of cloth blue?
Zombified: No, it's red.
Kumar: Isn't this piece of cloth blue?
Anders: No, it's red.
Kumar: Isn't this piece of cloth blue?
Prester John: No, it's red.
Kumar: Isn't this piece of cloth blue?
Benguin: No, it's red.
Kumar: Isn't this piece of cloth blue?
Bill Hoyt: No, it's red.
Kumar: Isn't this piece of cloth blue?
Hans: No, I told you already, it's red.
Kumar: Isn't this piece of cloth blue?
Eos of the Eons: No, it's red.
Kumar: Isn't this piece of cloth blue?
Zep: No, it's red.
Kumar: Isn't this piece of cloth blue?
Flume: No, it's red.
Kumar: Isn't this piece of cloth blue?
Materia3: No, it's red.
Kumar: Isn't this piece of cloth blue?
A. N. Quack: Might be.
Kumar: There, I TOLD YOU SO!!!!!
 
Kumar said:
Mr.Hans

There can be persistant increased levels of insulin & BG in IR condition which can cause hyperinsulinemia's complications. Whether this persistant higher level of insulin is natural or induced due to medications/injected insulin is to be understood?
He says microvascular complications are less common in type1 cases. But these are mentioned same in both types at: Type 1 diabetes, Type 2 diabetes
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Pls refer to my previous answer, which will not change, no matter how many times you ask the same question.

Hans
 
Rolfe said:
Kumar: Isn't this piece of cloth blue?
Hans: No, it's red.
Kumar: Isn't this piece of cloth blue?
Deetee: No, it's red.
Kumar: Isn't this piece of cloth blue?
Badly Shaved Monkey: No, it's red.
Kumar: Isn't this piece of cloth blue?
Rolfe: No, it's red.
Kumar: Isn't this piece of cloth blue?
ThirdTwin: No, it's red.
Kumar: Isn't this piece of cloth blue?
Zombified: No, it's red.
Kumar: Isn't this piece of cloth blue?
Anders: No, it's red.
Kumar: Isn't this piece of cloth blue?
Prester John: No, it's red.
Kumar: Isn't this piece of cloth blue?
Benguin: No, it's red.
Kumar: Isn't this piece of cloth blue?
Bill Hoyt: No, it's red.
Kumar: Isn't this piece of cloth blue?
Hans: No, I told you already, it's red.
Kumar: Isn't this piece of cloth blue?
Eos of the Eons: No, it's red.
Kumar: Isn't this piece of cloth blue?
Zep: No, it's red.
Kumar: Isn't this piece of cloth blue?
Flume: No, it's red.
Kumar: Isn't this piece of cloth blue?
Materia3: No, it's red.
Kumar: Isn't this piece of cloth blue?
A. N. Quack: Might be.
Kumar: There, I TOLD YOU SO!!!!!
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:D
 
Rolfe,

But when that cloth looks blue to me, how can I accept, it is red & therefoe contradict/question again?

Learn how discussions are held & informations are given/exchanged here. Never contradict or gets irritated. Be patient & just informative. Why I am not mentioning red colour there? You might got this habit being only skeptic neither spritual nor believers in mass...whereas Dr. Andrew looks to be spritual also.
 
Kumar said:
But when that cloth looks blue to me, how can I accept, it is red & therefoe contradict/question again?
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Why keep asking the people who know that the cloth is red? If you don't respect their knowledge of the subject, then why ask their opinion?

Rolfe.
 
Rolfe said:
Why keep asking the people who know that the cloth is red? If you don't respect their knowledge of the subject, then why ask their opinion?

Rolfe.
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Just to know & clear, why it looks blue to me.
 
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