Qanon Conspiracy theories

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Anyway it's a simple enough thing to check. If doctors etc. are mislabelling deaths which were from other causes, then two things would stand out:
1. A drop in deaths from other causes, similar to the rise in Covid-19-related deaths.
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It could get a bit fiddly in figuring this. With the measures being taken to reduce viral transmission we should expect a reduction in some other common causes of death. Other communicable diseases should be greatly reduced. Traffic deaths should be way down, as should recreational injuries. With so many less people about, street crime should be down, although burglary and home invasion robbery may go up. With many people confined to their own homes with their families 24/7 it's possible domestic violence will increase.

I think it will be some time before all the factors can be sorted out, and a reasonably accurate assessment can be made.
 
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It could get a bit fiddly in figuring this. With the measures being taken to reduce viral transmission we should expect a reduction in some other common causes of death. Other communicable diseases should be greatly reduced. Traffic deaths should be way down, as should recreational injuries. With so many less people about, street crime should be down, although burglary and home invasion robbery may go up. With many people confined to their own homes with their families 24/7 it's possible domestic violence will increase.

I think it will be some time before all the factors can be sorted out, and a reasonably accurate assessment can be made.

Possibly, but that would then mean that every friend and relative of someone who had been wrongly recorded as having died from Covid-19 making not a murmur of protest.
As with so many conspiracy theories, they rely on the assumption of a passive and docile majority (the sheeple), who in this case are supposed to have no problem at all having the deaths of their loved ones exploited in an attempt to make Trump look bad. Not credible at all.
 
It could get a bit fiddly in figuring this. With the measures being taken to reduce viral transmission we should expect a reduction in some other common causes of death. Other communicable diseases should be greatly reduced. Traffic deaths should be way down, as should recreational injuries. With so many less people about, street crime should be down, although burglary and home invasion robbery may go up. With many people confined to their own homes with their families 24/7 it's possible domestic violence will increase.

I think it will be some time before all the factors can be sorted out, and a reasonably accurate assessment can be made.




True.

In which case a somewhat better measure of asserted mis-labeling on death certificates could be found in the pre-confinement data. This is what was implied as valid by whomever it was that customized the CDC pneumonia flu death rate chart. IIRC he said he did so based on the latest numbers which had not yet been added to that graph he produced. I think he said something like 'Using the latest numbers, I updated that line on the graph, filling in those weeks since the last official update of that line'
 
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Double nonsense award

Possibly, but that would then mean that every friend and relative of someone who had been wrongly recorded as having died from Covid-19 making not a murmur of protest.


Nonsense. As if 'every friend and relative' is qualified to determine that. Not credible at all.



...and the reason we saw that nonsense is that it was a (lame) set up for this nonsense:


As with so many conspiracy theories, they rely on the assumption of a passive and docile majority (the sheeple), who in this case are supposed to have no problem at all having the deaths of their loved ones exploited in an attempt to make Trump look bad. Not credible at all.


Double nonsense award
 
"Montana physician Dr. Annie Bukacek has been filling out death certificates..."

Like clockwork, these BS sources check out the same time after time.

Dr. Annie Bukacek is an author at "The Centre for Research on Globalization," a conspiracy theory website run by a 9/11 truth / Russian propaganda guy. This is the kind of website where a Russian troll / Syrian apologist would get their info to link here on the forum. Hypothetically speaking.


wikipedia said:
Michel Chossudovsky (born 1946) is a Canadian economist, author and conspiracy theorist.[1][2] He is professor emeritus of economics at the University of Ottawa[3][4] and the president and director of the Centre for Research on Globalization (CRG), which publishes conspiracy theories.[5][6][7][8] Chossudovsky has promoted 9/11 conspiracy theories.[9][10][13][14]

In 2017, the Centre for Research on Globalization was accused by NATO information warfare specialists of playing a key role in the spread of pro-Russian propaganda.[6] The CRG was also accused of spreading Chinese propaganda.[15][16]
 
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True.

In which case a somewhat better measure of asserted mis-labeling on death certificates ...'
Are you still claiming the CDC is pushing for miss labeling death causes?

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvss/vsrg/vsrg03-508.pdf

Or have you read the guidance?

Why spread lies about mis-labeling death certificates - CDC did not say to mis-label. Why spread BS conspiracy theories? Why do you do this, because it is easier than reading for comprehension and doing in-depth research to figure out the facts.

Cherry picking BS from nuts online is easier than understanding reality.

Have you checked the latest numbers for the not CDC chart some CTer posted so he could get stupid comments from his buddies and the other CTers who can't think for themselves?

The old chart had this as the last five death entries, compared to the update this week - thus the comments about the chart were BS and you posted BS which meant you had no clue the deaths are updated each week to include the past weeks.
Old Update week
3390 3446 9
3404 3530 10
3203 3445 11
2930 3697 12
----- 4135 13

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/#S2 the data file this week is labeled NCHSData14.csv

Now you are on a mislabeled CT?

Wonder if the chart maker finally figured out what was going on? Did you tell them?

Not sure, was this chart maker 1... if so he now knows the data changes
https://twitter.com/rmsgeek/status/1249003535200595968
 
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https://www.wonkette.com/qanon-idiots-very-concerned-about-mole-children-now

Since the very beginnings of the Satanic Panic in the 1980s, believers in Satanic Ritual Abuse have been obsessed with tunnels. One of the most memorable features of the investigation into McMartin Preschool in Manhattan Beach, California, were reports of underground tunnels where the McMartins brought children to sexually assault them. The McMartins, of course, were found innocent after a three year trial and no one ever found any damn tunnels. Including Gloria Steinem, who helped fund an excavation of the area around the preschool searching for them.

And now, thirty-plus years later, we're back to the damn tunnels. Because the QAnon idiots have recently turned their attention to a theory that Central Park is currently teeming with mole children who had been living in underground tunnels, and who have recently been rescued by the US military, on the orders of one Donald J. Trump.

It is, perhaps, one of the stupidest theories to have come from these people, and that's saying a lot.

So here's what the deal is (I think): They believe that the COVID-19 epidemic is a big ruse meant to keep people in their houses while the US military rescues thousands of children from underground tunnels, some of which they claim are right underneath Central Park. These children were, I guess, transported to the Navy hospital ships — the USNS Comfort in New York and the USNS Mercy in Los Angeles. Now, they claim, these children are being treated in all of the tents that were set up in Central Park to treat people with COVID-19.

Quidiots.
 
Tunnels, etc




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Since the very beginnings of the Satanic Panic in the 1980s, believers in Satanic Ritual Abuse have been obsessed with tunnels. One of the most memorable features of the investigation into McMartin Preschool in Manhattan Beach, California, were reports of underground tunnels where the McMartins brought children to sexually assault them. The McMartins, of course, were found innocent after a three year trial and no one ever found any damn tunnels. Including Gloria Steinem, who helped fund an excavation of the area around the preschool searching for them.

And now, thirty-plus years later, we're back to the damn tunnels. Because the QAnon idiots have recently turned their attention to a theory that Central Park is currently teeming with mole children who had been living in underground tunnels, and who have recently been rescued by the US military, on the orders of one Donald J. Trump.

It is, perhaps, one of the stupidest theories to have come from these people, and that's saying a lot.

So here's what the deal is (I think): They believe that the COVID-19 epidemic is a big ruse meant to keep people in their houses while the US military rescues thousands of children from underground tunnels, some of which they claim are right underneath Central Park. These children were, I guess, transported to the Navy hospital ships — the USNS Comfort in New York and the USNS Mercy in Los Angeles. Now, they claim, these children are being treated in all of the tents that were set up in Central Park to treat people with COVID-19.




Quidiots.




AFAIK, the only known/confirmed item (below) is Clinton's being in Epstein's flight log....and Jimmy Saville's notoriety.


This latest Central Park tunnel thing is among assertions about pedo practices which include the hospital ships, adrenochrome, Weiner's laptop, Jimmy Saville's circle of friends, Bill Clinton in Epstein's flight log. etc etc.


Setting aside such myriad claims, we know that pedophiles exist, and we know they have networks. (Jimmy Saville)

The question to me is how likely is it that there are pedophiles among the so called elites? Royals.

Is it reasonable to speculate royal culture, specifically in those centuries old royal castle cultures would feature higher rates of leisure pastimes such as rape and pedophilia ?

I would think it could be higher in certain areas of the royals population due to centuries of privileged lifestyles, being accustomed to having the power and the free time to abuse those beneath them....such as forcing their servants to entertain them by participating in whatever eccentric activities and games they invented to pass the time at home in the castle where they have nothing else to do all day long, every day, every century.
 
Yes, as if Donald Trump would want to keep the rescue of thousands of abused children a secret. Conspiracy theories are so dumb.


I am not buying this Central Park tunnels and hospital ship thing.

Having said that....

I notice that those promoting it have also raised IMO good reasons it would not be publicized,

Such reasons can make sense in the context of the asserted bigger picture which this tunnel thing is asserted to be part of.
 
We already have seen that lower class pedophiles acting alone or together will snatch kids and imprison them for years.

Go figure what upper class pedophiles are capable of.
 
Brethren,

Hear Ye Hear Ye.....Good tidings for all !

Those who were part of the illegal coup to unseat POTUS will soon face justice, finally.

Well, some of them, at least. Grand jury subpoenas were issued.
 
Nonsense. As if 'every friend and relative' is qualified to determine that. Not credible at all.



...and the reason we saw that nonsense is that it was a (lame) set up for this nonsense:





Double nonsense award

You do, of course, misunderstand the irreversibility of logic here. For a conspiracy of false cause to work, EVERY friend and relative would have to be fooled. But it would not require every friend or relative to contradict the conspiracy. ANY friend or relative with qualification or evidence would be enough.
 
The question to me is how likely is it that there are pedophiles among the so called elites? Royals.

Is it reasonable to speculate royal culture, specifically in those centuries old royal castle cultures would feature higher rates of leisure pastimes such as rape and pedophilia ?

Here's the thing about questions like that; you don't draw conclusions from the question itself. If you think the likely answer to the question is yes, you then start to look for evidence to support it.

If you find the evidence, then you've uncovered a conspiracy. If you don't find evidence, then it's most likely there is no conspiracy to uncover.

But here's the most important part: that you imagine something could be true isn't evidence that it is true.

Understanding that is the difference between skeptics and conspiritards.
 
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