Qanon Conspiracy theories

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Axxman300 said:
In short: Q is not interested in functional border security, just a wall racists can point to on the Mexican Border while Mexicans tunnel under their flat feet.
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Let’s not forget that Trump promised a real, physical, concrete (literally) wall across the entire southern border, and that Mexico would pay for it.

Those were lies. He’s still lying about it.

Trump and his apologists also routinely lie about the intent of those opposed to Trump’s wall. That’s not just a strawman; that is a deliberate and willful lie, designed to shift people’s perception of reality as well as to whip up his base. It’s no coincidence that a pathological liar like Trump, teamed up with a self-proclaimed “Leninist” like Steve Bannon, produced such a steady torrent of lying for both tactical and strategic reasons. It’s no surprise, either, that “Q” fans are happy to lap up and excuse such lies. It’s a perfect self-selected group of marks, all happy to participate in the destruction of the Republic for another jolt from the electrodes while the “populist” and “traditional values” grifters laugh at them... all the way to the bank.
 
Mycroft said:
What I think is astonishing is the Trumpers who post videos of Obama, Pelosi or Schumer talking tough on immigration and how it's important to secure our borders to "prove" how hypocritical liberals are, then turn around and claim liberals want open borders, apparently having forgotten the evidence they posted contradicting that.
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It’s astonishing until you realize that the intent is not to tell consistent lies; it’s to tell as many lies as possible to drown out the truth - to subvert the very notion that objective truth even exists. It’s a feature, not a bug.
 
When one name calling fails, try the other name calling, the race card.


Axxman300 said:
Just the southern border between the US and scary brown, Spanish-speaking people. No money is going to our northern border where white people live. Should point out that there has been no increase in the US Coast Guard's budget, no plans for increasing their fleet to meet the growing demand for interdiction in the Gulf of Mexico, East Coast, and West Coast where drug smugglers are increasingly active. No increase for the USCG or USAF, or US Navy's surveillance aircraft to aid in interdiction of drug-smuggling aircraft. No additional funds for DEA FAST teams, and foreign operations. No additional funding for Customs operations, including new sensing equipment, and more agents. No increase in the size of the Border Patrol, nor new funding to expand BORTAC.

In short: Q is not interested in functional border security, just a wall racists can point to on the Mexican Border while Mexicans tunnel under their flat feet.
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Mycroft said:
What I think is astonishing is the Trumpers who post videos of Obama, Pelosi or Schumer talking tough on immigration and how it's important to secure our borders to "prove" how hypocritical liberals are, then turn around and claim liberals want open borders, apparently having forgotten the evidence they posted contradicting that.
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Slick Willie also talked tough on border security.

They all did. Talk is cheap.

Lack of border security is partly about increasing democrat voters. W did little or nothing as well, for the same reason. Figure that out. Its not hard.
 
sts60 said:
Let’s not forget that Trump promised a real, physical, concrete (literally) wall across the entire southern border, and that Mexico would pay for it.

Those were lies. He’s still lying about it.

Trump and his apologists also routinely lie about the intent of those opposed to Trump’s wall. That’s not just a strawman; that is a deliberate and willful lie, designed to shift people’s perception of reality as well as to whip up his base. It’s no coincidence that a pathological liar like Trump, teamed up with a self-proclaimed “Leninist” like Steve Bannon, produced such a steady torrent of lying for both tactical and strategic reasons. It’s no surprise, either, that “Q” fans are happy to lap up and excuse such lies. It’s a perfect self-selected group of marks, all happy to participate in the destruction of the Republic for another jolt from the electrodes while the “populist” and “traditional values” grifters laugh at them... all the way to the bank.
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Self-selected group of marks is making some charlitans rich. People who sell "Trump-care" insurance and other Trump related merchandise.
 
sts60 said:
It’s astonishing until you realize that the intent is not to tell consistent lies; it’s to tell as many lies as possible to drown out the truth - to subvert the very notion that objective truth even exists. It’s a feature, not a bug.
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The Truth?

Pray tell.

Lets hear it.
 
Sure. Trump lied about having a real, physical wall across the entire southern border. He lied that Mexico would pay for it. He’s lying about the intentions of those opposed to his wall plan. So are you.
 
sts60 said:
Sure. Trump lied about having a real, physical wall across the entire southern border. He lied that Mexico would pay for it. He’s lying about the intentions of those opposed to his wall plan. So are you.
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Oh c'mon.


Got anything actually substantial ?


What are the intentions of those opposed to his wall plan?
 
Pope130 said:
Thank you for that. I was trying to figure it out. I got as far as: "What Would George the First Want", but couldn't make anything meaningful out of "GA".
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What wood George I wants, George acquires.
 
Bubba said:
How long after Marrs and Estulin exposed Bilderberg was it that your trusty sources informed you of Bilderberg ?

Just round it up in decades if you cannot recall the exact number of years.
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I'm not axxman, but I ran across The Spotlight back in the 1970's - between the Bilder's and the Jews it was hard to tell which was worse.

Anybody that only became aware of the B's in the internet age is a johnny come lately
 
The fundamental lie of “Q” Is the same as the central premise, namely, that he is some sort of highly-placed guru privy to all sorts of these dramatic secrets. Bus the linchpin Q lie is that Trump is some sort of heroic ninja-crusader-captain of industry, rather than the flabby, inept, degenerate, treasonous, thin-skinned, whiny grifter he actually is. That’s the smart lie; it vacuums up ready-made suckers by the truckload.
 
sts60 said:
You asked for the truth. I gave you some. You’re the one calling truth “insubstantial”.
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Failed campaign rhetoric hardy qualifies.

Campaign promise Mexico will pay for wall.....as a failed lie?

You gotta have something more substantial.
 
You would have a point if he made this a campaign theme, then backed it down after the election. That would have been dishonest, but not unusually so.

He didn’t. He’s kept repeating the lies. Same as with the “open borders” lie. Same as with the many hundreds of other specifically identifiable lies he’s made.

That’s quite apart from his gross incompetence, deep corruption, contempt for governance and democracy in general, his degeneracy and bigotry and hypocrisy, his infantile disposition, and various other traits that make him a disgrace to his office.

So what’s this got to do with failed Q predictions, or the fact this thread has basically become a clearinghouse for your political views? I’m fine with having a “Bubba’s political views” thread, but then we should rename this one and move it to USA Politics.
 
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