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Psychics and Missing People

It looks like a fundraising scam from what I see (from his website):

"On the news last night....
We are continuously expanding our system, but for us to finish doing it right would cost millions. It costs us anywhere from $5K-$50K to install each probe depending on the amount of traffic going through the site, a lot of larger companies have paid to install their own probes.
I've spent a lot of time over the last 3 1/2 years (since my daughter's best friend was kidnapped and killed by a pedovile) trying to make the world a safer place for our children. I fought for the amber alert, and the online databases, and have spent thousands of hours over the last few years helping to design and develop a protection system for the internet. But, I am quite thankful for all the geniuses that volunteered their time in helping put it all together, they are in place to run the operation.
My concentration is changing to fundraising at this point, but I have no experience in raising money for an operation of this caliber and would love to hear from anyone willing to help...(email address here)
Project ORN where the predators, become the hunted...
ORN - Offender Registration Network"


ETA: OH, and I forgot:

"Project ORN DONATION $100
Quantity:"
 
Katachresis said:
It looks like a fundraising scam from what I see (from his website):

"On the news last night....
We are continuously expanding our system, but for us to finish doing it right would cost millions. It costs us anywhere from $5K-$50K to install each probe depending on the amount of traffic going through the site, a lot of larger companies have paid to install their own probes.
I've spent a lot of time over the last 3 1/2 years (since my daughter's best friend was kidnapped and killed by a pedovile) trying to make the world a safer place for our children. I fought for the amber alert, and the online databases, and have spent thousands of hours over the last few years helping to design and develop a protection system for the internet. But, I am quite thankful for all the geniuses that volunteered their time in helping put it all together, they are in place to run the operation.
My concentration is changing to fundraising at this point, but I have no experience in raising money for an operation of this caliber and would love to hear from anyone willing to help...(email address here)
Project ORN where the predators, become the hunted...
ORN - Offender Registration Network"


ETA: OH, and I forgot:

"Project ORN DONATION $100
Quantity:"
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I saw that, too, but I don't think that has anything to do with his claimed psychic abilities. He never mentions this on that forum that I have noticed. It may be time comsuming to find each thread where he mentions his visions, etc, other than the vague one I posted. He never does explain that, not is it explained anywhere else.

Thanks.
 
Katachresis said:
It looks like a fundraising scam from what I see (from his website):
My concentration is changing to fundraising at this point, but I have no experience in raising money for an operation of this caliber and would love to hear from anyone willing to help...(email address here)
Project ORN where the predators, become the hunted...
ORN - Offender Registration Network"

ETA: OH, and I forgot:

"Project ORN DONATION $100
Quantity:"
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Project ORN -
Umm... Donation showing on your credit card from "P.O.R.N."??
 
I tried to get in to the site today, but I got this in my email this morning:

Dear K*****,
Unfortunately your registration at Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community did not meet our membership requirements. Therefore your registration was deleted.
Sorry,
Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community team

I didn't even have time to post anything.


 
Yup. That's the same message I got, Katachresis. Well, at least now I won't take it so personally.

Meg
 
John Jackson said:
Yes, Kelly.

It's another UK skeptically orientated site/forum. The project is going to be relaunched shortly with a new name and new look which is why it's currently only readable by members.

It should be open in the not too distant future.

John
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THanks, John. I just wanted to check that it was an ok site as they were linking to me.

rjh01 said:
Something strange. Click on 'main page' (top right hand corner) and it goes to http://www.randi.org/ .

No joke.
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When you click on what main page, please?
 
meg said:
Yup. That's the same message I got, Katachresis. Well, at least now I won't take it so personally.

Meg
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Did you both use web based email addy's. That's probably why.

I agree that Project ORN, shortened to PORN is odd. Why someone would choose a name that could be abbreviated as such is beyond me.
 
I remember during the Jacob Wetterling case, here in MN, that one of the local stations asked a psychic to do a reading. She predicted he would be near water. We're "the Land of 10,000 Lakes," that ain't to big a prediction.

I think it was WCCO, but I'm sure the Wetterling Foundation can give you more info. I haven't paid much attention to the case since then, but I think he was never found.
 
CptColumbo said:
I remember during the Jacob Wetterling case, here in MN, that one of the local stations asked a psychic to do a reading. She predicted he would be near water. We're "the Land of 10,000 Lakes," that ain't to big a prediction.

I think it was WCCO, but I'm sure the Wetterling Foundation can give you more info. I haven't paid much attention to the case since then, but I think he was never found.
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He was never found. Last year, there was a young man who was thought to be Jacob. They wanted him to do a DNA test, but he never would. I believe in the end they do not think was him, but I am not sure. I know Patty through a volunteer org called TEAM Hope. I should ask her.

Thanks.
 
Hi Kelly,

No, I used a real email address. Went through the registration, they verified my email, and clicked the link, etc. I was just waiting for the final approval by an administration type for my registration to be complete when I received an email like Katachresis.

I did not, however, fill out anything in the "who referred you" line. Perhaps they only take people who are friends of present members or something?

Meg
 
Kelly, I'm not sure what to say about today's blog entry (by RebKah Howard).

It's almost pro-psychic, just saying that some psychics aren't reputable, and that some are "gifted but vague."

On the whole, I think the article would leave someone with the impression that psychic detectives are still helpful, they just didn't help in this one case.
 
KellyJ said:
When you click on what main page, please?
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I am talking about the 'bad psychics' website. It has 'welcome to badpsychics' in the top middle of the page. On the left of that are the words 'main page'. Click on that and it goes to the JREF page.

I also found where the reference to your site is.
 
RSLancastr said:
Kelly, I'm not sure what to say about today's blog entry (by RebKah Howard).

It's almost pro-psychic, just saying that some psychics aren't reputable, and that some are "gifted but vague."

On the whole, I think the article would leave someone with the impression that psychic detectives are still helpful, they just didn't help in this one case.
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I was never quite comfortable with her entry. I left it as is because I provided supporting links that are certainly not pro-Renier. Even as I posted it, I still didn't feel right about it. I went back and edited it. Rebkah will understand as I made it clear that I didn't want it to be encouraging. In the light of day, and under the microscope of others, it was too soft.

I think it now still doesn't take away from her softer approach, but leaves out the encouraging statements.

Thank you.
 
meg said:
Hi Kelly,

No, I used a real email address. Went through the registration, they verified my email, and clicked the link, etc. I was just waiting for the final approval by an administration type for my registration to be complete when I received an email like Katachresis.

I did not, however, fill out anything in the "who referred you" line. Perhaps they only take people who are friends of present members or something?

Meg
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I'm not sure. That doesn't seem fair to exclude someone because they were not referred.

In the scheme of things, I suppose Rocky is no big hitter. He just annoys the heck out of me, and contributes to the level of woo over there.

Personally, I'd rather do a proverbial smack on the noggin to that creep in Canada who says he can pinpoint a missing child anywhere in 2 seconds flat.

Thanks for trying, both of you.
 
KellyJ said:
I'm not sure. That doesn't seem fair to exclude someone because they were not referred.

In the scheme of things, I suppose Rocky is no big hitter. He just annoys the heck out of me, and contributes to the level of woo over there.

Personally, I'd rather do a proverbial smack on the noggin to that creep in Canada who says he can pinpoint a missing child anywhere in 2 seconds flat.

Thanks for trying, both of you.
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They may have checked the referral stats of their website to see where the originating link that led you to them came from. Maybe someone should try signing up without using the link from here to click through to them. Copy and paste the link into the address bar of a newly opened browser window and see what happens.
 
Gr8wight said:
They may have checked the referral stats of their website to see where the originating link that led you to them came from. Maybe someone should try signing up without using the link from here to click through to them. Copy and paste the link into the address bar of a newly opened browser window and see what happens.
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Or perhaps use http://www.the-cloak.com/anonymous-surfing-home.html ?
 
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